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What the FBI director said was Clinton was extremely careless but she did not intentionally mishandle the emails.

In other words it was not a criminal act and no prosecutor would charge her. Comey is not going to throw away his professional reputation to let let Clinton off on what would would have been a misdemeanor charge anyway.





Extremely careless IS gross negligence. Intent is not part of the law.

Coumey spends 15 minutes setting forth an indictment against Clinton, and then says, oh, we're not doing it. He was gotten to. Now you really have to wonder about Bill's airplane visit with Lynch.
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Y'know, I just sort of GUESSED who'd posted it from the header...
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It is a political case being tried in the court of public opinion.

The actual facts, when reviewed, did not warrant court involvement.


The actual facts, as stated by Coumey, would've resulted in the indictment of anyone else. Couney, curiously, admits that Clinton violated the la, because "extremely careless" IS gross negligence.

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Trump 2016. Hillary for prison.
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I bet /pol/ is in a tizzy.
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It's up to the Department of Justice to press charges, the FBI just investigates it.
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Dariamus wrote:

It is a political case being tried in the court of public opinion.

The actual facts, when reviewed, did not warrant court involvement.


And that is the bottom line. Now that she is not guilty, or even suspected of criminal wrongdoing, it is more than prudent for the other side to drop the crooked crap. If they want to keep using it, in spite of who is running against Hillary, it only shows us the depths of their hatred, driven by nothing but their delusions.

See, when people accuse Donald Trump of being crooked, they can point to actual lawsuits on trial right now, such as Trump University. They can point to him not giving dime of his own money to charity when he has gone on record to say he has given millions to vet charities.

What have the other side got on Hillary? Absolutely nothing, but pure bigfoot and small hands style myths with no bearing on reality.


Couney admitted that Hillary broke the law. The legal standard is "gross negligence", which, as explained by a judge to a jury in setting forth the instructions for determining guilt or innocence, is the same as being extremely careless.

So, Clinton was guilty of violating the law, as specifically stated by Coumey. Why no prosecution? Was Coumey gotten to? Possible. But there's also this:

President Obama had sent 18 emails to Clinton on the private server. Meaning, Obama knew Clinton had the private server, knew it, and allowed this violation of the law to continue.

At a minimum, it means Obama would've needed to be called as a witness at trial. Potentially, it could be determined that he violated the law as well.

Whatever the reason, it is not a coincidence that Couney very carefully and succinctly informed the entire world that Hillary was guilty, at the same time he announced his refusal to refer charges to the justice Department, The fix was in. The reason why will be open to much dispute. That Hillary Clinton committed multiple felonies, is not.
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And time to break out the old tinfoil hat.
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lawdog wrote:


Dariamus wrote:

It is a political case being tried in the court of public opinion.

The actual facts, when reviewed, did not warrant court involvement.


The actual facts, as stated by Coumey, would've resulted in the indictment of anyone else. Couney, curiously, admits that Clinton violated the la, because "extremely careless" IS gross negligence.


The statement issued:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/fbi-statement-email-server-hillary-clinton-james-comey/index.html


Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified
information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors
necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like
the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the
context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.
In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot
find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted
involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or
vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct;
or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those
things here.

To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity
would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or
administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.


Yes, Hilary was wrong.

No, her actions were not criminal.

Typical repercussions in similar instances involve revocation of security clearances - per executive order signed by Bill Clinton. The executive order exempts certain officials, including presidents.

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Like someone in this thread said, you can find things that show that Trump is crooked and corrupt.

Btw, the sister of the ambassador of Benghazi says that she does not blame Hillary for the people that died that day and also, she is mad at the republicans for politicizing this whole thing. For whatever tf that is worth, because already I've seen people writing that off and discrediting it.

And it has gotten to the point that people think conspiracies are in full swing. They investigated multiple times and nothing has come up each time. Just let it go. It isn't conspiracies. The republicans have been hellbent on this, and the truth is, it turns out, their real objective isn't to get criminal charges on Hillary. It is to damage her reputation and chances for the general election, and it is working.
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lawdog wrote:
Coumey spends 15 minutes setting forth an indictment against Clinton, and then says, oh, we're not doing it. He was gotten to. Now you really have to wonder about Bill's airplane visit with Lynch.


Yes, I'm sure Bush's former deputy AG was "gotten to" along with everyone else involved in the investigation. Just like everyone involved with Benghazi was "gotten to".

Christ, if Clinton had 1/8th the power some people seem to think she does there wouldn't be an election. She'd already be the empress of Earth and you'd be half a mile down in a salt mine somewhere. Its doubtful the Clinton Combine guards would let you keep your tinfoil hat while you worked too.

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voss749 wrote:

What the FBI director said was Clinton was extremely careless but she did not intentionally mishandle the emails.

In other words it was not a criminal act and no prosecutor would charge her. Comey is not going to throw away his professional reputation to let let Clinton off on what would would have been a misdemeanor charge anyway.





Thank fuck someone actually gets it.
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lawdog wrote:


voss749 wrote:

What the FBI director said was Clinton was extremely careless but she did not intentionally mishandle the emails.

In other words it was not a criminal act and no prosecutor would charge her. Comey is not going to throw away his professional reputation to let let Clinton off on what would would have been a misdemeanor charge anyway.




Intent is not part of the law.

What the hell kind of fantasy country do you live in where that's true?
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Comey's entire justification for not recommending charges is that he claims they found no evidence of intent. But Title 18 does not require malicious intent. Title 18 includes careless and negligence as reasons for prosecution. The point of having a statute that criminalizes gross negligence is to underscore that government officials have a special obligation to safeguard national defense secrets; when they fail to carry out that obligation due to gross negligence, they are guilty. The lack of intent to harm the country is irrelevant.

Comey's recommendation is befitting a Banana Republic.
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lawdog wrote:


voss749 wrote:

What the FBI director said was Clinton was extremely careless but she did not intentionally mishandle the emails.

In other words it was not a criminal act and no prosecutor would charge her. Comey is not going to throw away his professional reputation to let let Clinton off on what would would have been a misdemeanor charge anyway.




Intent is not part of the law.

What the hell kind of fantasy country do you live in where that's true?


Probably the same country you and I live in mate . In the Canadian justice system less weight is given to intent then you would think.
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