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its just a religion.... bad reputation lolz.... extremists and jihad-ists......they dont eat pork either.... WHATS WRONG WITH PORK????
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heshiron wrote:

its just a religion.... bad reputation lolz.... extremists and jihad-ists......they dont eat pork either.... WHATS WRONG WITH PORK????


Im not sure, but i think its because pork was kinda living in dirty place. back in time, it prolly carried all kind of diseases and such. If you have someone that is more educated looking after you meat to be sure its fine, then okies, you can eat it... and since the most educated people was often leader of the religious communauty...

when you didnt had one close, just dont eat pork, save your life...

Is im wrong or thats another myth ?


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Hylia wrote:


heshiron wrote:

its just a religion.... bad reputation lolz.... extremists and jihad-ists......they dont eat pork either.... WHATS WRONG WITH PORK????


Im not sure, but i think its because pork was kinda living in dirty place. back in time, it prolly carried all kind of diseases and such. If you have someone that is more educated looking after you meat to be sure its fine, then okies, you can eat it... and since the most educated people was often leader of the religious communauty...

when you didnt had one close, just dont eat pork, save your life...

Is im wrong or thats another myth ?





just found the anwer to my question in a book..... here.... they think PORK(tasty and not dirty by the way) is dirty! thats it.... if u eat pork u cant go to heaven..>! its senseless but u cant argue since its what muslims believe in.... its their business.... could have saved some Muslims which are poor frm starvation......
Posted 2/12/08 , edited 4/18/08
Islam will be an allright religion if they just don't put down other religion. I hate people like this. I'm a Hindu and I am aware that Muslims are threatened by us Hindus. I just don't know why. Many of my Muslims classmates felt uncomfortable when were learning about Hinduism being the first religion in the world. They were all denial and whatnot. Personally, I think Islam is pure waste.
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mauz15 wrote:

Yeah, um we had an Islam thread before. It did not work out. Insults everywhere, everyone wanted it to be locked. You can try another forum, sadly I guarantee you ius not going to work here Hope you get the point.

There is a general religion thread btw
http://www.crunchyroll.com/showforumtopic?id=186


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this is a hot topic!!
maybe for muslims who read these,they would be offended...
i know that everyone has their own opinion..undenialable..
but please make yourself understand about the religion b4 commenting on it..(sorry if my eng is bad)
even in reality shows like american idol...they only take experts to give comments on the contestants performance..
coz they know well about it...
don't get too harsh on things that you don't even know well,OK!
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pork is not the only food in the world...
so don't worry,muslims won't die if they do not eat pork..
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im muslim and i agree with everyone exept hitoli

and we dont smell


i'm a muslim i agree we have some weird thing and unacceptble thing 4 other religons but i hate some stuff 2 but i tottly dissagree with hitoli !! we have respect 4 our religon and other religons and we dont kill 4 the sake og revenge or 4 our minds wanted 2 !! we want 2 spread peace but isreal ( WAS palestain ) is now under war and all the muslims there are being killed day and night !!!
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BY MISTAKE when i was small i ate pork its not that it tastes bad or anything its just that it has many bad effictions on the body and its .. ( i mean no offince 2 any one ) its dirty and it eats anything ( worms insects and mud .. ) siencetist and doctors they made reserchies and proved that !!
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i dun know what's d purpose of tis tread....
the more i read it, it really makes no sense..
talking about respecting other religions, but u're making all sort of harsh accusation.
(some are not)
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What can I say? It's a religion! It's people worshipping an invincible divine creature, whose existance has never been verified. It's people following an old book - not thinking for themselves. People punish
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I grew up in an Islamic household.

The religion itself is fine. The basic tenets and beliefs are very similar to other religions. You know, the basic don't kill, don't steal, etc. It's just that there are people who take everything to the extreme give it a bad rep (and this is everywhere, it's not only an islamic problem). That, and I think people tend to infuse their own cultural beliefs into the religion which can cause an entirely new set of problems.

I don't agree with everything, but it's not the woman hating, medieval, backward religion that it's made out to be.

Well, I'm a Muslim, live in Malaysia studying in international university, respecting all others religion, races, and belief. I like smiling_leyla answer. Very accurate.

First, we have to differenciate between Islamic principle.
Second, we have to diffrenciate between culture and Islamic principle as well.

Ok, I will post more later. I hope this thread will going nicely. I respect different views but have to be in civil
manner and objective way without biased. I have hindu's friend, chinese and christian as well. I loved all of them and respect them as much. I cherish so much love and my religion. I can't think of one second living without God's love.

There is should be a reoson why we are created in this world.
There is the beginning, they should be ending as well isn't it.
For those who said that religion is not nessecary then they can think that way.
Just that we created in this world with no reoson? Is that possible?

What I'm feel that being a Muslim is the most wonderful feelings I have. I have the most inner peace and tranquality. When I prayed I feel God's love. When I lonely i feel God presence. It is most beautiful thing in this world that cannot be explain by word. There is God's love in everything that has been created inthis world. In the tress that moving, at the bird that are flying, at the leaves that are floppong. In everything there is a sign of Almighty God presence.

The problem is when people mixed the religion with culture. Doing extreme thing in the name of religion.

The pork thing it is based on our belief, it doesn't mean that when we didn't eat pork we can entered heaven all the way. Prohibition on eating pork come by reoson and some of it has been proven sceintifically but we didnt hate pig. It is God creation as well. It is more likely like vegetarian. We should respect different views on belief. We can eat everything except pork, dog and unslaughtered animals. That comes with solid scientific evidence which if you come from another religion and didn't want to believe it then it is ok. I really respect different view but when it come to a religion no matter what religion we should be objective and undertsand clearly the principle before critisizing

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Hitoli wrote:

What can I say? It's a religion! It's people worshipping an invincible divine creature, whose existance has never been verified. It's people following an old book - not thinking for themselves. People punishing, murdering, others because they don't do what their imaginary gods tell them to.

What all religions lack is common sense. Abortion isn't wrong, neither is homosexuality, etc. Muslims just tend to take things a little further, that's why I don't like their religion.

Having a religion is stupid. I know this thread is for a serious discussion, and that I'm being offensive, but that's how I think.

Islam, Christianity, whatever.. If you believe in a book that says homosexual people are sinners and deserve death, then there's something wrong with you.

Amen.


Finally, someone who think like me.


@ Hitoli: Gosh that something very harsh dear. When we want to critisize something we have to be very objective no matter what belief we uphold. Being different is normal but have to be objective and completly sceptical. I will post later regarding the point you pointed out.

Actually, I never like to discuss about religion matter in this forum, this is my first time and hopefully it will be a warm thread if not I will just back off and living my live peacefully.

@ ShiSeiran: Well dear, I think the problem with your Muslim's friends is their ignorence or immature behaviour. I wouldnt blame my hindu's or christian's freind who behave unappropriate to their religion. Being a Muslim and Islam is different issue.

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Th3holyon3 wrote:

As long as they don't kill other ppl in the name of their god, I'm cool with Islam. They smell weird though. =/


They do not kill in the name of Allah - they terrorize because they have been oppressed for years where the oppressors treat their religion like dirt. I don't think Muslims smell - it's the Tamils who do because of their use of coconut oil which is unfamiliar to our too-used-to-the-smell-of-soap noses.


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what i'm against about the islam religion are the extreme punishments. decapitation, hanged publicly because of homosexuality, etc...


Your hands get chopped off if you are caught stealing - a strong deterrence against theft isn't it? In China, as recent as 1998, most crimes (even theft) only have one punishment - being shot to death. Homosexuals in China are viewed as having mental diseases, many are electrocuted in the name of curing them and there are reports of the cutting open of skulls while the homosexual is still alive. It's not just in Islam where punishments can get severe. It's just under-reported.




Excuse me??? We Tamils we do not smell. Yes, some Tamils use coconut oil but only those who still village-minded. Those who have accepted modernization DO NOT use coconut oil. Sheesh, simply accusing us Tamils being smelly.
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Hylia wrote:

I'm gonna ask a question but first i need to be honnest.

Im not a religious person. I dont know much about islam, actually about nothing. Same for catholic, same for all religion.
So forgive me if i make mistakes or ask stupids questions.

there we go:

Is this true that Imam (idk how to spell it) (like the main priest guy) can name himself to that position?
Is this a miss conception?
Because i was wondering if thats where all the bad press come from.
If you can name yourself to a position of leader and teacher for a communauty, there got to be a couple weirdos somewhere.
(they are in all religions, dont take it personnal please >.< we all have extremists, everywhere)
And since the boring, nice, great people dont get to do front pages, only the weirdos, is that come from there?

I saw a Imam come and explains all the stereotypes of Islam. He was such a sweet man and had no problems admitting that there is probably islamic homosexual "like everywhere else" and such. He was very open minded and was really the opposite of all what medias would put up front.

Listening to him talk i learned alot. Like i would learn alot listening to any leader of any religion. It was fascinating. Not that i belived islamic people was bads and such. But i knew they was missunterdood and i needed to see by myself if it was different in their homes than in mine.

Im so walking on eggs right now. Those topics always end up in tiny-little war between people, and i really dont want to start one >.< My english is not good too. So forgive me if i offended someone somewhere >.<

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bleaichigo wrote:

im muslim and i agree with everyone exept hitoli

and we dont smell


You made me laugh =P

Its like when i have to say that yes, french woman shave. Really...
and no, we dont drink red wine all day and never shower ^_~
For me, stereotype about my nation are funny ^_^
And dont tell me its because i never "really" faced hater...
... I did... When they get violent its less funny. But when its just missunderstanding...
... desinformation...
... basic stereotype....

They prolly think you smell because your food smell different, and when they pass next your appartement/house they dont reconise it... did you ever tried to feed snails to someone? They make the same face =P Dont worry, when i try to feed you snails and frogs legs, you gonna make the same face =P

Girl! You cracked me up. I love your sense of humor. Well, i will come back later dear. Got to go..


Excuse me??? We Tamils we do not smell. Yes, some Tamils use coconut oil but only those who still village-minded. Those who have accepted modernization DO NOT use coconut oil. Sheesh, simply accusing us Tamils being smelly.


I'm sorry for the language that he/she reffered to. Maybe toelovehan he/she didn't generalize. If you feel offended I truly apologize on behalf of her/his language..

We shouldn't categorized people and generalized them by certain view. As said they are smelly or else. On any kind of race or religion. It is definately unfair treatmeant and didn't based on accurate persfective. Either it is a Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist or any other beleif.
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