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Posted 2/12/08 , edited 4/18/08

kissen wrote:

im muslim and dont agree with Hitoli cuz all wut he said is wrong u JERK


Sorry, to wake you up out of your illusions, but not all what he/she said is wrong. Also your way of talking in such a bad-mannered way is quite a shame(referring to the "JERK" part, and won't help you to convince others that Islam is a "nice" religion as you lots are trying to make implications about how "awesome/cool" Islam is.
My dear, with insults of this level it won't bring you anywhere. Instead of telling us what is so awesome about your religion and traditions you are insulting the ones who obviously don't share the same beliefs as you, which is actually just supporting/making their opinions more convincing, and is just stating/proving that you are a ill-mannered/intolerant/oblivious person.

And now lets just hope that not every Muslim is like you and so touchy towards criticism(which I honestly doubt).
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Im cool with Islam, i mean christians and muslims BASICALLY worship the same God, but through different mediums... so i dont get the mass hatred for all muslims....>.> oh well....


No, both Christianity and Islam do not worship the same GOD.

In Christianity, Jesus is their God.
In Islam, we believe in ALLAH.

There may have some similarities here and there but it's not the same thing.
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Posted 2/12/08 , edited 4/18/08
dont u now dat some muslims r bad, dere da ones who make a bad examples for other muslims
dey tell wrong things abt islam and dey actully dont practice their religion properly.im addin something to my post
if u thing christinty is better, y den do most of dem dont practice their religion except on speceil occassions?
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Posted 2/12/08 , edited 4/18/08

ayumi-09 wrote:

dont u now dat some muslims r bad, dere da ones who make a bad examples for other muslims
dey tell wrong things abt islam and dey actully dont practice their religion properly.im addin something to my post
if u thing christinty is better, y den do most of dem dont practice their religion except on speceil occassions?


i agree with this, people will always be people..
some will always be hypocrites in thier own religion..
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Posted 2/12/08 , edited 4/18/08
Let's set things straight (kind of.)

Ok, not all Muslims are extremists or "terrorists".

Those terrorists with intentions of killing pple/blowing up things was never right.
Yes, you can preach but never exert force on pple.

And not all Muslims condone such acts.
In fact, terrorism is the thing that makes us look bad in the eyes of public.

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Posted 2/12/08 , edited 4/18/08
I respect good people and their beliefs and it doesn't matter whether your beliefs make sense to me what matters is how you use them and what kind of person they make out of you. Well I have never had any bad experiences with Muslims since the ones I know are kind and cheerful people but I have no doubt there are bad ones out there just like there will always be good and bad people around the world.
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ayumi-09 wrote:

y dont u go and search about our religion,ull find dat its a wonderful religion.Y dont u ask urself y do british and other pple convert to islam because its the only religion dat is right.WOMEN get killed because they go and have sex or relitionships with men dats in some muslim countries

we dont smell and its wonderful to cover myself to not let pple see my beatufullness until i get married in the future and i found that my religion is better den any other and i respect other religions and im not racist.

y dont u ask urself dis q:
Y am i on earth and who brought my ancests to dis world?,god has brought us to see if ull do good or bad to judge u as a preson and god has put obstecles for us to see if we fall into it or not.homosextuls and gay pple r forbidden in my religion becasue y do make urself gay god made women for men and men for women

islam is a wonderful religion to have


I could throw the questions back at you..

1)Why is there no Muslim here able to tell us about the beauty of this religion?(instead of telling us to make researches)

2)Why is there no Muslim here able to tell us what did convince him to convert or stay with this religion?(since the most of you were born Muslim)

3)Why don't you tell us the reason of why the British and other people convert to your religion?(Please refrain from simply answering it with "cuz our religion is awesome, or cuz our religion is the best.....and so on")

4)Why do women have to get killed when they have sex with someone else, while their men can literally fuck the other wifes? Why is polygamy only allowed for men and not for women?(Please refrain from easily answering this with:"cuz Muhammad/Quran said so)

5)Why do you think it is cool to cover your beautifulness?(Isn't that a bit selfish not to share your beauty with the surrounding world?)

6)Why is God playing the "obstacle game" with us? What if I live in the Jungle and have never heard of Islam?
How am I supposed to know about Allah? Am I condemned to burn in hell just because I didn't know that there was an Allah(it is not my fault that I am living in a jungle, Allah did set me there after all...this is just an example)?

7)What makes you so sure that there is an Allah? Did you ever meat the Arch-angel Gabriel? Did you ever meat Allah? (I doubt it. You are merely basing your beliefs on a simple badly written book.)

8)Why is it wrong to be gay? Some people were born to be gay...you can't fool your intuitions...and Allah made them to be gay...so is this another of his "obstacle games"? Isn't that sick/wicked? Are they now to be condemned to end up in hell? What if they can't fight their gayness? Basically you folks are just having prejudices against everything that is different from you!

9)Why is Islam a wonderful religion to have, when it is so intolerant/prejudging/making people suffer?!


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Shadow-of-Intent wrote:

Im cool with Islam, i mean christians and muslims BASICALLY worship the same God, but through different mediums... so i dont get the mass hatred for all muslims....>.> oh well....


No, both Christianity and Islam do not worship the same GOD.

In Christianity, Jesus is their God.
In Islam, we believe in ALLAH.

There may have some similarities here and there but it's not the same thing.


Sorry to be so blunt..but are you somehow uneducated? You seem to talk about Christianity as if you would know it. But after reading this statement

In Christianity, Jesus is their God.
In Islam, we believe in ALLAH.
I started to doubt your education....seriously...Christianity doesn't worship Jesus more than God, Christianity worships mainly GOD!!!!!!!! And Jesus is GOD's son. Therefor Muslims, Jews and Christians worship GOD...the same GOD...
Seriously, one more stupid/ignorant reply of yours and I might start to doubt your intelligence. LAWL~

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im muslim and i agree with everyone exept hitoli

and we dont smell


same here..and i hate that everyone just catrgorizes us as 'oppressed individuals' even though we're not. people who believe that really don't understand why we are considered opressed. because of a few people we are looked down upon as a religion, not just as a people
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Posted 2/12/08 , edited 4/18/08

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kissen wrote:

im muslim and dont agree with Hitoli cuz all wut he said is wrong u JERK


LOL. I'm a she. Thank you. And at least my english is ok.


anastassia wrote:


ShiSeiran wrote:


Hitoli wrote:

What can I say? It's a religion! It's people worshipping an invincible divine creature, whose existance has never been verified. It's people following an old book - not thinking for themselves. People punishing, murdering, others because they don't do what their imaginary gods tell them to.

What all religions lack is common sense. Abortion isn't wrong, neither is homosexuality, etc. Muslims just tend to take things a little further, that's why I don't like their religion.

Having a religion is stupid. I know this thread is for a serious discussion, and that I'm being offensive, but that's how I think.

Islam, Christianity, whatever.. If you believe in a book that says homosexual people are sinners and deserve death, then there's something wrong with you.

Amen.


Finally, someone who think like me.


@ Hitoli: Gosh that something very harsh dear. When we want to critisize something we have to be very objective no matter what belief we uphold. Being different is normal but have to be objective and completly sceptical. I will post later regarding the point you pointed out.

Actually, I never like to discuss about religion matter in this forum, this is my first time and hopefully it will be a warm thread if not I will just back off and living my live peacefully.



Opinions never are completely objective. I think it's a nice thing to be able to say what you think. The thing about religion is, is that people demand way too much respect for it. I don't respect it at all. If I'd have said that 'blue cars are a threat to mankind, and should be destroyed' no one would have cared. Even the people who have a blue car. I can't insult your religion because it's the thing you believe in. So what? I believe in pink, flying pancakes. You'd probably tell me I'm insane. But believing in such a thing isn't more insane than believing in God or Allah.

But to come back to the subject, I think the Islam is bad. And this is why:






Yay. Stoning. Awesome.


u are right
but not all muslim wear this
like me im muslim but i don't wear this
its personlity choise

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Posted 2/12/08 , edited 4/18/08

MidnightZorya wrote:


Well, since this is a thread about Islam and not other religions, we must restrict ourselves to the main topic. Which is obviously Islam...

hey sorry i know this thread is all about islam... i just to compare my opinion to other religion just a want to say.. im not agree to both of muslim and christian or other religion doing a harsh thing.. im not a muslim neither if im a real christian...
doing a harsh thing are the person want.. im telling its not in basis in their belief either a muslim or christian....

sorry for the off topic...
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Posted 2/12/08 , edited 4/18/08

anastassia wrote:

Salam to all my fellow Muslims.

I'm proud of you protected our beloved religion and that is come out of love. May Allah bless you. Just a note dear, based on my experience, when we discussing Islam with another religion we have to be very patience and have to bear being offended. We have to practice what our beloved prophet showed us.

You know when our prophet is being insulted in THOIF and in Makkah? He being patient and even prayed for them..

Let them hate us say bad things but never say bad things back to them. We defend with a decent manner.


wa alikum alsalam :D
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im muslim and nothing wrong with my reliegon
and my reliegon like any other reliegon but i don't know why some people hate us
that make me sad most of the time but the life continue
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Posted 2/12/08 , edited 4/18/08
This is like the third time a thread like this has been made? I don't think this is going very far. Anyway I was thinking about the Muslim festivities all I know is that they fast at Ramadan or something.
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ayumi-09 wrote:

dont u now dat some muslims r bad, dere da ones who make a bad examples for other muslims
dey tell wrong things abt islam and dey actully dont practice their religion properly.im addin something to my post


Problem that you people seem not to understand is that the zealots/extremists/orthodox are fully following the Quran, and are even taking literally the evil verses. Which means that they are practicing their religion properly.


if u thing christinty is better, y den do most of dem dont practice their religion except on speceil occassions?


I don't think that Christianity is better.
Why do most of them not practice? Well we could say that they are lazy/maybe doubting the creation theory/not narrow-minded enough/not small-minded enough to act like fanatics and take every word in the bible literally/don't have enough time for it(civilisation)/don't hold the traditions so dearly.....
And seriously, there are also quite a lot of Christian zealots...

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Posted 2/12/08 , edited 4/18/08

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anastassia wrote:

Salam to all my fellow Muslims.

I'm proud of you protected our beloved religion and that is come out of love. May Allah bless you. Just a note dear, based on my experience, when we discussing Islam with another religion we have to be very patience and have to bear being offended. We have to practice what our beloved prophet showed us.

You know when our prophet is being insulted in THOIF and in Makkah? He being patient and even prayed for them..

Let them hate us say bad things but never say bad things back to them. We defend with a decent manner.


wa alikum alsalam :D
and thanks i like ur reply


now this is the real islam people as i view them... the real devotes never wage in illicit acts or is addicted to war and terrorism..

they are actually peace loving...as thought by mosques...

it just so happens that most people use religion for human desires
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