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So, here's the thing, not many people on Crunchyroll fully understand the process taken in an effort to secure streaming rights for an anime show. My suggestion is explain this, on an Official Capacity, and to even go as far as create a "Weekly Digest" or "Monthly Digest" of new shows acquired, new shows attempted to acquire but were denied by the copyright holders, and new shows on CR that are being constantly attempted to acquire and/or new shows that are in high demand on CR.

I think being open about this would provide a continuous repeat amount of visitors for this digest, while, simultaneously, being able to allow CR fans and users to direct their hatred, anger, and frustration towards the proper people behind the reasons why we don't have very, very, very popular anime shows, such as, Dragon Ball Z, Full Metal Alchemist, and anything else that may come to mind.

For example, if CR has attempted 27 attempts to acquire the streaming rights for Dragon Ball Z, but was declined 27 times, then I wanted to know about this! But if CR's last attempt was in 2010, then I also want to know about this!

So, how can this benefit CR and its users!? Simple. While it is CR's money, it's also CR's profitability that will be taken into account. Think about it. If you set a poll every month, and that poll shows a Top 5 set of shows that people have voted on to show their desire to watch it on CR, then CR is securing its value of bidding onto that show for X amount of money with X amount of attempts. So, if 1 million people vote on DBZ as the Top Show Most Desired on CR, then how much is that worth to you?

For 1) You just got FREE ammo that you can use to backup your selling point when discussing the possibility of having DBZ on CR with the copyright holders, because they will get 50% of the revenue.

2) This is a great method to estimate how much profitability acquisition of DBZ will provide for CR from ads and Premium Users that voted onto this poll.

3) You'll also be acquiring new visitors to the website that previously wouldn't of batted an eye at it due to having access to other 'free online sites' to watch those shows on because CR didn't have it.
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Posted 7/7/16

Deathdealers747 wrote:

So, here's the thing, not many people on Crunchyroll fully understand the process taken in an effort to secure streaming rights for an anime show. My suggestion is explain this, on an Official Capacity, and to even go as far as create a "Weekly Digest" or "Monthly Digest" of new shows acquired, new shows attempted to acquire but were denied by the copyright holders, and new shows on CR that are being constantly attempted to acquire and/or new shows that are in high demand on CR.

I think being open about this would provide a continuous repeat amount of visitors for this digest, while, simultaneously, being able to allow CR fans and users to direct their hatred, anger, and frustration towards the proper people behind the reasons why we don't have very, very, very popular anime shows, such as, Dragon Ball Z, Full Metal Alchemist, and anything else that may come to mind.

For example, if CR has attempted 27 attempts to acquire the streaming rights for Dragon Ball Z, but was declined 27 times, then I wanted to know about this! But if CR's last attempt was in 2010, then I also want to know about this!

So, how can this benefit CR and its users!? Simple. While it is CR's money, it's also CR's profitability that will be taken into account. Think about it. If you set a poll every month, and that poll shows a Top 5 set of shows that people have voted on to show their desire to watch it on CR, then CR is securing its value of bidding onto that show for X amount of money with X amount of attempts. So, if 1 million people vote on DBZ as the Top Show Most Desired on CR, then how much is that worth to you?

For 1) You just got FREE ammo that you can use to backup your selling point when discussing the possibility of having DBZ on CR with the copyright holders, because they will get 50% of the revenue.

2) This is a great method to estimate how much profitability acquisition of DBZ will provide for CR from ads and Premium Users that voted onto this poll.

3) You'll also be acquiring new visitors to the website that previously wouldn't of batted an eye at it due to having access to other 'free online sites' to watch those shows on because CR didn't have it.


This kind of information is considered trade secret, and won't be made publicly available. That being said, I would hope CR hasn't been wasting time trying to license DBZ, as there's very little chance of getting that away from Funimation.
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Well, money is a good motivator. So, the question is: How much money will influence CR to reveal this information?
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Posted 7/7/16

Deathdealers747 wrote:

Well, money is a good motivator. So, the question is: How much money will influence CR to reveal this information?


Details of licensing negotiations will never be shared with the public. Non-disclosure is a central aspect of these negotiations, so none of the involved parties will ever divulge anything about them to 3rd parties.
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Posted 7/7/16

shinryou wrote:


Deathdealers747 wrote:

Well, money is a good motivator. So, the question is: How much money will influence CR to reveal this information?


Details of licensing negotiations will never be shared with the public. Non-disclosure is a central aspect of these negotiations, so none of the involved parties will ever divulge anything about them to 3rd parties.


Don't really get why. When a company receives a buyout bid, that gives people an idea of their potential net worth, and if the bid goes through, then that's what they were worth at the time. So, what's wrong with the world knowing that your licensing deal is worth a couple million dollars!?
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Even if there wasn't any other reason, such as the supplier requiring non-disclosure as a part of continuing to do future business with them, doing that would provide your bidding information to the likes of Funimation, TAN, VIZ, Netflix, Amazon, etc, and put you at a competitive disadvantage the next time you tried to acquire something. It could also provide that same information to the other companies you are buying from and have them see that maybe they aren't getting the same deal, thus making it more expensive overall.

Capitalism is a harsh environment where you don't just give away your negotiation techniques and methods that you need to hone and use season after season, year after year. It's not the same thing as a leveraged buyout at all.
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Posted 7/7/16
Well, I can see and understand that. I guess I just want to know why these episodes keep taking so long to acquire... But thanks for the responses.
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