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DarwenGwein wrote:

Now, I'm sure you all have the most loving intentions at heart, but here's a quick analogy to what I picture when you say "all lives matter".

You sit down with your extended family for a holiday dinner, and everyone starts passing the food around. Your favorite, the potato salad, is heading your way, but before you can scoop some for yourself, your sister next to you places the bowl in the middle of the table after getting her share.
"Hey," you comment, "I need some potato salad too."
"Shush!" Your dad rumbles from the other end of the table. "Everyone deserves some potato salad."
He glares at you, doing nothing to reprimand your sister or secure you your portion of potato salad. In the end, you are left without potato salad, and the rest of the table follows your father's lead in giving you the cold shoulder for instigating a disagreement on a holiday.

Black lives matter.
Blue lives matter.
And yes, white lives matter too.
But saying "all lives matter" is like saying "all people should be treated equally"; we end up passing it off as an ideal and silently dealing with a world where "some [people] are more equal than others". This ride is only going to collapse if we keep duct taping the outside rather than fixing the odds and ends that keep it moving.


Well said. Thank you.


actually its complete trash bs.

BLM is a radical terrorist group this man is say bs half truth.
read this again [b]But saying "all lives matter" is like saying "all people should be treated equally

this guy cleary doesnt understand blm true intentions. They dont want to be treat equally look up and read.

One of the fonders of this shxt group is on american most wanted terrorist.
and to use a food compassion is rather weak.
this compassion is like socialism on paper is sounds good but fails in real life.
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Posted 7/11/16

DarwenGwein wrote:


onemannation2012 wrote:


DarwenGwein wrote:

Now, I'm sure you all have the most loving intentions at heart, but here's a quick analogy to what I picture when you say "all lives matter".

You sit down with your extended family for a holiday dinner, and everyone starts passing the food around. Your favorite, the potato salad, is heading your way, but before you can scoop some for yourself, your sister next to you places the bowl in the middle of the table after getting her share.
"Hey," you comment, "I need some potato salad too."
"Shush!" Your dad rumbles from the other end of the table. "Everyone deserves some potato salad."
He glares at you, doing nothing to reprimand your sister or secure you your portion of potato salad. In the end, you are left without potato salad, and the rest of the table follows your father's lead in giving you the cold shoulder for instigating a disagreement on a holiday.

Black lives matter.
Blue lives matter.
And yes, white lives matter too.
But saying "all lives matter" is like saying "all people should be treated equally"; we end up passing it off as an ideal and silently dealing with a world where "some [people] are more equal than others". This ride is only going to collapse if we keep duct taping the outside rather than fixing the odds and ends that keep it moving.


But saying "all lives matter" is like saying "all people should be treated equally"[/b mate systematic racism was never proven and is currently not proven.


Ooh, bait. Nomnomnom...

Inequality is a thing and has been proven. In this "land of the free" where people "pursue their happiness", obviously the poor are only poor because they refuse to make an effort, right? Therefore, they are deserving of less. Less happiness, less dignity, less equity. This thought has poisoned society to the point that the poor themselves believe it (1). Before they even have a chance, it's ingrained into the minds of our children when they're deemed to be from undesirable backgrounds (2).

What makes an undesirable background? Here's a question: If I ask you to picture a slum, or a ghetto, what do you imagine? Who do you picture living there? Regardless of what you thought of after you realized what I was getting at, those human beings in the first image are our undesirables, whether they want to be or not.

EDIT: New info; even if some "big evil system of racism" isn't proven, racial bias is. Though the slightly higher percentage of fatal black shootings by officers is not significantly different from fatal white shootings, "[e]ven when officers report civilians have been compliant and no arrest was made, blacks are 21.3% more likely to endure some form of force" (3). Divided up, data shows that during Stop and Frisk situations, blacks are 18% more likely to be pushed to the wall or ground, and a whole 24% more likely to have a weapon pointed at them, and this is after correcting for gender, age, reason for the stop, time of day, area crime rate, and more.

(1) Appio, L., Chambers, D., & Mao, S. (2013). Listening to the Voices of the Poor and Disrupting the Silence About Class Issues in Psychotherapy. Journal Of Clinical Psychology, 69(2), 152-161.
(2)Gorski, P. (2008). The Myth of the "Culture of Poverty". Educational Leadership, 65(7), 32-36.
(3)Fryer, R. (2016). An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force. NBER Working Papers Series, working paper 22399.


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BLM does call for the killing of whites dont be a idiot, and cops


"Ew, you watch anime? So you condone the sexualization of prepubescent girls, having them ******* and ********* with ********************* when they ************ to the **************? It must be so satisfying when they all surround the cardboard cutout of a main character, who only exists to let you live in the show vicariously, helping you forget that you're a 35 year old sage who lives in his grandmother's basement and hasn't held a steady job in his life. But even though you're a virgin, you fornicate with a character pillow every few hours right? That's a must for anime fans; I hear they go crazy if they don't pretend kiss their 'waifus' regularly."

So now we've perfectly encapsulated Black Lives Matter people and Anime people. Which group is next?



Also why doesnt BLM care when a thug kill a black person, only when a cop does? So again Does BLM only when white cops kill inoocent or non innocent? ALso if BLM why dont the black community police its self, what about, the abortion rate?

SO like i said if BLM matter why does most black kill blacks. why does BLM only care about thug? why does BLM riot thier own houses and biz? LIKe i said these are 100 percent facts. if you think this movement is ok either yourve a idiot or your a racist?

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onemannation2012 wrote:


DarwenGwein wrote:

[ridiculous block quote]



Also why doesnt BLM care when a thug kill a black person, only when a cop does? So again Does BLM only when white cops kill inoocent or non innocent? ALso if BLM why dont the black community police its self, what about, the abortion rate?

SO like i said if BLM matter why does most black kill blacks. why does BLM only care about thug? why does BLM riot thier own houses and biz? LIKe i said these are 100 percent facts. if you think this movement is ok either yourve a idiot or your a racist?



BLM does care when "a thug" kills a black person. That doesn't make the news though, especially whatever biased outlet you're reading from. What does make the news is hot-button issues and violence, and as long as you're content to sit back and accept whatever is being shoveling into your head, that's all you're going to see.

As for the rest of that, I hope you'll forgive me, but it's a bit too far from a coherent English argument for me to parse. I'll let someone else take over feeding you for that.


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actually its complete trash bs.

BLM is a radical terrorist group this man is say bs half truth.
read this again But saying "all lives matter" is like saying "all people should be treated equally

this guy cleary doesnt understand blm true intentions. They dont want to be treat equally look up and read.

One of the fonders of this shxt group is on american most wanted terrorist.
and to use a food compassion is rather weak.
this compassion is like socialism on paper is sounds good but fails in real life.


*Comparison is your word of the day.

Cool fanfic. I gave a metric butt-load of evidence for relatively simple points, so I expect some back if you're going to make grand claims like "BLM is lead by one of America's most wanted". While you're away, you can look for an analogy that perfectly describes, well, anything. Western philosophers, scientists, and mathematicians dead and alive would praise you as god.
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gave me what ? no you didnt again you cant aruge the facts and yes i am quite tried, if you want i can link all of this claims i am making.
If blacks lives matter then why does 90 of blacks kill blacks? hmmm.
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also did you know that BLM was founded by a white person and so was naacp woah knowledge bomb. you want proof?


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I'm not fond of constant polarization, myself. As a whole, the two sides are too busy foaming at the mouth and dehumanizing each other to see the bigger picture. I'm more in favor of the cops, though, since BML is resorting to terrorist tactics and mob justice. There are a few other reasons, but I'd rather not divulge.
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Considering neither the police departments of the United States' various municipalities nor the Black Lives Matter movement are homogeneous amalgamations that can be treated as monolithic, I'm going to say:

"What a stupid question."


onemannation2012 wrote:

this compassion is like socialism on paper is sounds good but fails in real life.


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The vote so far only surprises me a little. I expected the BLM to get more votes than Cops. The Don't Care vote is people looking for a middle ground on the issue.

Over all the BLM movement is based on jumping to conclusions before all the facts are found out. Then ignoring facts based on what you feel for the most part.
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BlueOni wrote:

Considering neither the police departments of the United States' various municipalities nor the Black Lives Matter movement are homogeneous amalgamations that can be treated as monolithic, I'm going to say:

"What a stupid question."


onemannation2012 wrote:

this compassion is like socialism on paper is sounds good but fails in real life.


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Capitalist delusion #1: "always just a person without considering their circumstances; people suffer in Socialism not because Socialism take over badly managed Capitalist nations and people prosper in Capitalism not because Capitalism follow nations which are already successful."
You Capitalists should stop projecting your negative image into others even when you can bribe the social media administrators to hack into left-wing accounts.
The cop vs. BLM is used to evoke a misleading stereotypical plots; it is used as a last resort to stop the election of the Democrat. Do I have to repeat myself?
The white supremacists actually carry out the sniping to kill the white police officers who oppose racism against black. They get a black scapegoat, bribe the news to distributed false information, use photo-shopping, and bribe the social media administrator to hack into BLM accounts. By glorifying the successful sniping through the hacked accounts, the white supremacists gain pride for their success while creating fear toward successful African-American.
If the Black Lives Matter are glorifying the attack right after carrying it out, then they would use a disorganized mob attacks which is way more practical and way more likely to succeed; they would not expose the identity of the sniper who are supposed to conceal their identity. Many African American are in the low class where they cannot afford the time and resource for such demanding military operation especially in a time with more peaceful political alternative.
The white supremacists, on the other hand, are more likely carry out the attack since they are more desperate to disrupt the political shift toward the left. They also have the wealth, connection, political authority, and time to carry out such attack. The white-supremacist snipers would be able to hide their skin color, escape with the secret assistant from certain police officers, and use the police officers to set up a black scapegoat.
A loosely-organized guerrilla organization without military training cannot possibly carry out a successful sniper attacks without assistant from the police. A sniper operation need high skills, knowledge of good hiding place in advance, and knowledge of enemy's movements in advance. Even if they can gain the skill with long-term intensive training, they also need to solve logistic problems: 1) How can some civilian smuggle an illegal weapon and the large amount of ammo for training? 2) How can some civilian maintain a complex weapon with many fragile parts? 3) How can they transport a non-portable sniper in an urban area? 4) Where can they find a large area for long-term sniper training?
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I support human lives matter
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I don't condone the behavior of the guilty in the police force, but I definitely can't support any activist group that obstruct the streets and become much contradictions to what they're rallying for. If you want to protest, fine, but don't go out blocking highways and ruining the lives of other people. MLK didn't do that shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNWFlMZfCxY

This poor reporter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EscgcEzQ9Vc

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Posted 7/13/16 , edited 7/13/16

AniMatsuri wrote:
The vote so far only surprises me a little. I expected the BLM to get more votes than Cops. The Don't Care vote is people looking for a middle ground on the issue.

BlueOni wrote:
I'm going to say:

"What a stupid question."

so many cops are unexperianced, afraid even in calm events (fast on the trigger?)
and much more.

While sometimes you have those being quite good and never get themself or others in trouble.
also what have BLM gained besides then hatred and a crowd for the PC police?
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AnActualArtist wrote:

I don't condone the behavior of the guilty in the police force, but I definitely can't support any activist group that obstruct the streets and become much contradictions to what they're rallying for. If you want to protest, fine, but don't go out blocking highways and ruining the lives of other people. MLK didn't do that shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNWFlMZfCxY

This poor reporter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EscgcEzQ9Vc



Why do I have the suspicion that an emergency scapegoat was used as a distraction...
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I support people who don't kill people.
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Just because you support black lives matter doesn't mean you support cop killers anymore than supporting cops means you're all up for police brutality. It's not an either or guys. That being said, I don't really see the value of the movement, so I would probably side with the police cautiously, as I am against police brutality.
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