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Try Hulu. I looked up a few of them on there to see if they were still streaming and they are.
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Breakthrough wrote: It's not. The pages for these shows are still up, but with no videos. They were removed ~2 weeks ago, but they said that they are working on getting them back. Hopefully they do.

That'd be up to whether Sentai and Crunchyroll can come to terms. It doesn't seem like it's impossible: the Sentai releases that Sentai did not allow to roll over a few weeks back are enough content to justify a package deal that covers contracting costs.

But if the refusal to allow them to roll-over reflects a change in strategy at Sentai, then you probably shouldn't hold your breath.

Note that this remark is just about the Sentai sublicenses that went down unexpectedly in a big bunch a few weeks back. I am not sure whether all of the ones in that list above are in that group.


bkoehler wrote: Try Hulu. I looked up a few of them on there to see if they were still streaming and they are.

Hulu also had a big take-down sometime in the last three months ... they might not be offering terms quite as generous for older back-title series anymore. One possibility is that under the new terms from Hulu, Sentai decided that they needed to focus their ad-funded views of their Hulu catalog on Hulu to better cover their overheads their.

If that happened to be what is going on (note that I don't have any inside information on this ~ it is just a hypothetical possibility), there could be returns of some of these series in clusters, when Sentai decides that there is a set of them that it's no longer worthwhile to keep them up at Hulu.
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I highly recommend this series if you love sports anime! I am lucky to own the DVDs, but it will be missed!
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Was pretty upset when Angel Beats disappeared in the midst of me watching it. Really hope Crunchyroll starts making it common practice to let us know when shows are going to be pulled. Funimation does it now.
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goatnuke wrote:

Was pretty upset when Angel Beats disappeared in the midst of me watching it. Really hope Crunchyroll starts making it common practice to let us know when shows are going to be pulled. Funimation does it now.


They DO generally make it common practice to say when shows are going to be pulled, Angel Beats was one of a large group that got taken down very recently that were licensed by Sentai. There was a forum thread somewhere where they said they are working to get them back as soon as possible; as other people have said in this thread, it's likely some mild contracting dispute between Crunchyroll and Sentai.

I've inferred from this that they probably didn't make an announcement because they were not expecting to have so much trouble renewing the licenses or something, and as someone said on some other related thread, they've never had a practice of announcing removed titles after the fact, so if they were told to pull these titles without advance notice, they would not make a post about it (probably).

You can probably tell I don't really know what I'm talking about but this is a mixture of heavy speculation and repeating what better-informed forum denizens have said before.
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Breakthrough wrote:


Norasuna wrote:


Breakthrough wrote:

Thanks for the warning. Anyone here think it's worth the watch?

On another note, is there any update on when/if the titles below are coming back?


I'm pretty sure "Dusk Maiden of Amnesia" is still available. Haven't checked the other shows though.

It's not. The pages for these shows are still up, but with no videos. They were removed ~2 weeks ago, but they said that they are working on getting them back. Hopefully they do.




Crunchyroll could publish the copyright expiration date on the show/anime/manga pages. This way, it would be (mostly) a one time only edit and the information would be there available to everybody. Exceptions, like the "demand to remove show now" mentioned above and expiration day changes could be handled by announcement and update on show page but those should be (hopefully) rare.
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Posted 7/12/16 , edited 7/12/16
Somebody mentioned Hakuouki---Hulu doesn't have Reimeiroku (the prequel), but you can watch the original series on Hulu. The Anime Network does have Reimeiroku, though only subscribers can watch it. (I'll have to temporarily subscribe there, since I was just about to watch it here when it got pulled. )
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Wow a 35 year old anime, this one will be interesting to watch this weekend.

It does seem vaguely familiar though. Anyone seen it before?

Thanks lugiamania for letting us know
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OutraVez wrote: Crunchyroll could publish the copyright expiration date on the show/anime/manga pages. This way, it would be (mostly) a one time only edit and the information would be there available to everybody. Exceptions, like the "demand to remove show now" mentioned above and expiration day changes could be handled by announcement and update on show page but those should be (hopefully) rare.

Except it's normally not the copyright expiring, it's Crunchyroll's license expiring or (sometimes) the license of the company that licensed to Crunchyroll.

And many of the series that started as simulcasts likely have roll-over licenses, that automatically renew unless they are pulled. For those, they would be always "expiring soon", and then auto-renew, and expiration date would be more confusing than informative.
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Breakthrough wrote:

Thanks for the warning. Anyone here think it's worth the watch?

On another note, is there any update on when/if the titles below are coming back?

AMNESIA
Angel Beats
Blue Spring Ride
Bodacious Space Pirates
Dusk Maiden of Amnesia
Ef - A Tale of Memories
Familiar of Zero F
Hakuoki Reimeiroku
Hakuoki Season 1
Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere
Inu X Boku Secret Service
Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions
Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions - Heart Throb -
Magical Warfare
Majestic Prince
Mashiroiro Symphony
Mysterious Girlfriend X
Nobunaga the Fool
Outbreak Company
Photo Kano
Queen's Blade Rebellion
Rozen Maiden
Rozen Maiden Zurückspulen
Sakura Trick
Soni-Ani: SUPER SONICO THE ANIMATION
Stella Women’s Academy, High School Division Class C3
Sunday Without God
The Kawai Complex Guide to Manors and Hostel Behavior
Tsuritama
Un-Go
Wizard Barristers


Sign this misunderstanding again due to the mass outbreak company expiration. The following titles are still availble to watch. Type any of them into the search bar and the episodes show up. They also show up in the master list. http://www.crunchyroll.com/videos/anime/alpha?group=all
AMNESIA
Blue Spring Ride
Magical Warfare
Majestic Prince
Nobunaga the Fool
Soni-Ani: SUPER SONICO THE ANIMATION
Wizard Barristers
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agila61 wrote:

Except it's normally not the copyright expiring, it's Crunchyroll's license expiring or (sometimes) the license of the company that licensed to Crunchyroll.


Then just list the license expiration date.



And many of the series that started as simulcasts likely have roll-over licenses, that automatically renew unless they are pulled. For those, they would be always "expiring soon", and then auto-renew, and expiration date would be more confusing than informative.


Not sure if it would be confusing.

If they have a database with this information (and it is almost certain they do) an automatic process could update the page with a message like "Roll over license" or something like that and, when they do not renew the license, just say "License not renewed, expiring on <date here>" and send a notification to all users who have the show on their queue. This would keep both the information on page and the interested parties informed of any changes.
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I know for some shows, like the first season Kuroko for example, flat out say what their expiration date is.


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OutraVez wrote:

And many of the series that started as simulcasts likely have roll-over licenses, that automatically renew unless they are pulled. For those, they would be always "expiring soon", and then auto-renew, and expiration date would be more confusing than informative.


Not sure if it would be confusing.

If they have a database with this information (and it is almost certain they do) an automatic process could update the page with a message like "Roll over license" or something like that and, when they do not renew the license, just say "License not renewed, expiring on <date here>" and send a notification to all users who have the show on their queue.


Though in the cases we are talking about here, where they did not know for sure until the expiration date that it would not roll over, the "license not renewed, expiring on" would be "expired on".

9 times out of 10, the expiration date wouldn't matter, because it would roll over, which would make people think a series was expiring when it wasn't, and when the information was available in advance, it would be basically the same as if a notification was sent to people with a series in their queue when one of these "Expiring soon" stories was posted in the news.

And obviously, it's only the series licensed from a North American distributor or a series where they obtained the primary international distribution rights where they could be certain of being allowed to list the rights ... if they licensed from a Japanese owners of international rights, it's quite possible they would refuse for the information to be released.


DarkSasword wrote: I know for some shows, like the first season Kuroko for example, flat out say what their expiration date is.


Yowza, that expiration date make it look like Crunchyroll may have streaming rights for the life of the production committee agreement.
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Unless i'm mistaken, everyone of those shows is licensed by Sentai though, so I'm guessing something's up on their end. Doesn't make a lot of sense for them to have those series not streaming, 'cause there's nowhere else to see them. no viewers=no advertising=no sales

Some of them may be available on Hulu, all of them are likely available on The Anime Network. (I haven't checked every single title, but I didn't see any that I recognized as not being available at TAN).

Some may have disappeared from free streaming, however, since if a title typically isn't offered on Hulu, it is available on TAN past the first episode to subscribers only.

This has the biggest affect on persons outside the US & Canada. While TAN does some streaming outside of the US, apparently those are the only countries where they offer ad-supported streaming. It is also uncertain which (if any) of these titles stream to the same countries as they did on CR.

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Oh dear... well I might watch Dear Boys for Matsukaze Masaya... but I heard its not that good
and that you would be better off watching Kuroko's Basket.

Also pretty sure all of those titles that were also pulled recently are from Sentai which means they have dvd/bluray
you could buy or import if no mangaUK release also a few of them are still available.
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