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Post Reply Hikaru Sulu: Gay Or Straight Controversy.
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How do you feel about making retconning Sulu to be gay? To me, this reeks of travesty and does a disservice to George Takei's legacy. Even if it wasn't their intention, it just doesn't really look good at all. Basically? Because George Takei is actually gay, but Hikaru Sulu is another person. They're separate. I can't really put it into words, but it feels quite wrong.


What do you think?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/john-cho-sulu-a-gay-man-in-star-trek-beyond?utm_term=.tpL07W5DnN#.jg29OjkKXE
Posted 7/12/16

PeripheralVisionary wrote:

How do you feel about making retconning Sulu to be gay? To me, this reeks of travesty and does a disservice to George Takei's legacy. Even if it wasn't their intention, it just doesn't really look good at all. Basically? Because George Takei is actually gay, but Hikaru Sulu is another person. They're separate. I can't really put it into words, but it feels quite wrong.


What do you think?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/john-cho-sulu-a-gay-man-in-star-trek-beyond?utm_term=.tpL07W5DnN#.jg29OjkKXE


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George Takei hated it. I think that's all anyone needs to say about it.
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I don't like it all.
There is no reason they had to make Sulu the token gay character of the show.
Posted 7/12/16
The whole thing is a retcon, they could all be gay.
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I think gender and race swapping existing characters is lazy and can seem like pandering or at least praise seeking. I don't see how sexual orientation is any different.
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I'm 100% ok with it.

Now let's make Freddy Mercury Straight and MLK jr White.

Or my personal favorite, dancing robots with chicken hats that shoot laser beams.
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nooneinparticular wrote:

I think gender and race swapping existing characters is lazy and can seem like pandering or at least praise seeking. I don't see how sexual orientation is any different.


That is exactly what happened here.
Posted 7/12/16

gornotck wrote:


nooneinparticular wrote:

I think gender and race swapping existing characters is lazy and can seem like pandering or at least praise seeking. I don't see how sexual orientation is any different.


That is exactly what happened here.


I've always wondered this, if were all equal, why can't there be a character that happens to be gay or black that is well developed by their own merit?

Black Panther, War Machine, and my personal favorite static shock, are some of the best heroes ever.
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There's a few disgruntled liberals on the site who cannot tolerate anyone debunking or challenging their worldview, basically.
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George wasn't onboard with it and that really says all there is to say.
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I feel like someone saw "angry because he's gay" and just lost it
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kill me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsBC-vF0ZeU
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WeeabooWarrior wrote:


gornotck wrote:


nooneinparticular wrote:

I think gender and race swapping existing characters is lazy and can seem like pandering or at least praise seeking. I don't see how sexual orientation is any different.


That is exactly what happened here.


I've always wondered this, if were all equal, why can't there be a character that happens to be gay or black that is well developed by their own merit?

Black Panther, War Machine, and my personal favorite static shock, are some of the best heroes ever.


The reason, I would guess, is because the people who are creating, or at least mutilating, these characters have no real imagination. In this case, they said that if they DID create a 'gay character', that would become their 'token gay character' and would only be known as 'the gay character'. They find it much, much easier to take an already established character and change things about it than to create an entirely new character that might not be even liked, and then claim 'alternate universe!' to justify how you can't tell them they shouldn't.
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