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Posted 7/13/16
After putting hours into my favorite fighting games through out my life (Street Fighter, Super Smash bros, Mortal Kombat, Injustice) I think I might just give up. Im never going to be as good as I want to be with any of these games. What's the point in even trying with these games if there is always going to be that one person that will always be better than you no matter how much you train? I think for that reason alone knowing someone who will always be better than you is just enough to kick the bucket with fighting games altogether why even bother? I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way but it still bothers me cause I enjoy these games and it sucks knowing you'll never be as good as you want to be with these games.
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Posted 7/13/16 , edited 8/6/16
I think improving yourself is an admirable goal that we should all strive for. Getting better each and every day and having the game recognize it is a dream come true.
Posted 7/14/16
Tekken is the only combat game I enjoy. I'm relatively good at it, enough to make most people lose interest in the game, but there's always going to be someone who's better at it, in my opinion. I am only as good as I am interested in playing the game, so I assume I'm not that good at Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter, for instance, since I don't really find them interesting. That I don't have an interest in those games, I think, has less to do with how I lost to someone while playing those games, and more to do with how I didn't get a feel for the game at all when I first started; the characters, their movements, and so on. I just knew instinctively that I wouldn't be able to improve (by much), because it would basically be like playing the game blind.

It's been a long time since I played Tekken, though, like several years, but I still remember that one of Yoshimitsu's combos started with Square, Triangle, Square, Triangle, before it moved on to X/O something downwards arrow, and then back to Square to execute with the sword. I also remember that he has several attacks that cannot be blocked, dodged or countered. And that clicking X and O simultaneously on Hwoarang resulted in switching stances, and that one of his nastiest-- almost impossible to block or counter type-- kicks comes from downward X once you've switched stance.

The thing about combat games is that there's really no such thing as a good defense. A good defense is great, but a good offense is always better than a good defense. The best tactic is to get hits in, hits that cannot be dodged, blocked, or countered, to use hits that are fast, instead of slow. To only use slow attacks--- not when they are on the ground--- but when you know that they will fall on the ground. So basically you predict that you will have enough time to execute that slow attack, which of course sometimes fail when they don't roll backwards like you thought they would, but instead do a low kick on you from where they lie on the ground so as to make you fall on your ass instead, but most people don't actually think that way, they think "I NEED TO GET AWAY ASAP!" so they roll backwards. And that's kind of like predicting what they are likely to do, what humans are likely to do, which is the wrong thing to do when they play against you because you know what humans are likely to do, so you base your moves off that.

Or at least that's my assumption. I don't know. I haven't had a PlayStation since the first release in like 98 or whatever it was.
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Posted 7/14/16
As a fellow fighting game enthusiast, I really think that you shouldn't give up, even when you don't think that you're improving at all. I once felt the same, until one day I went with a friend to a local video game convention. They had a copy of Ultra Street Fighter 4 in a corner for everybody to play if they wanted to. I had been playing SF for quite a while but I never thought I was good at the game, I was a lot better in BlazBlue for sure, but I still gave it a shot. To my surprise, I was a lot better in SF that I thought, I won quite a few matches, and people told me that I was a good player. I felt so rewarded at that time even though they were just friendly sparring matches.

I have a small dream of someday going to EVO, I don't need to win, I just want to experience a competition like that at least once in my life. Right now I play Guilty Gear Xrd everytime I can, it's now my favorite fighting franchise of all time, even though I still enjoy BlazBlue, Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat a lot. I just wanted to share a personal experience to show you that even if you don't realize it, you get good with practice, you just don't have to give up.
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Posted 7/14/16 , edited 7/14/16
I think Tekken 3 was the highest at its peak, and although i think Tekken 1 and 2 was better, i just dislike some sluttiness like Nina in Tekken 2,(Yeah i am pretty serious about it) But never really liked the nerdiness of fighting games to be honest.

Tekken was just a fighting games before nerds and anime took it over. I think the first exposure was that anime cutscene in Tekken 3 on Xiaoyu ending. ... It was nightmare to my eyes!!! Although that was cake to how anime as shit she became in the aftermath though.

It was fun when the focus was just martial arts though with some fun mixed into it.
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Posted 7/16/16
Don't give up, topic creator. It takes years and years of determined play to get anywhere in the genre, but, once you have those skills, you won't lose them (unless you just stop playing entirely).


Deyre wrote:
and although i think Tekken 1 and 2 was better


Ah, good to see I'm not the only one who likes the earlier games best. Tekken got weird after 1 and 2.
Posted 7/19/16

I didn't see Soul Calibur on that list
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Posted 7/19/16

Drozy wrote:


I didn't see Soul Calibur on that list


My bad. Forgot to add soul caliber 2 up there.
Posted 7/19/16

ah0tp0tat0 wrote:


Drozy wrote:


I didn't see Soul Calibur on that list


My bad. Forgot to add soul caliber 2 up there.


Should make that 4
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Posted 7/19/16
Personally, I've always found that the fact that there is always someone better than you to be the best thing about fighting games. There comes a level after learning the game engine and the characters where you really are just playing against the other player, and that's where fighting games really come into their own. Sure it sucks when you hit that point where you really can't feel like you're not getting any better but that's the point where maybe you have to step back, take a breather and perhaps find a different perspective. Maybe try a different character or play a different game altogether. Maybe find a different player or players to play against on the regular.
Posted 7/19/16
What if they are hackers?
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Posted 7/19/16
But isn't that the whole point of training? To improve your skills in preparations for the next big challenge? There's no real need for training if you are able to beat everyone. That's my philosophy anyways.

When it came to fighting games, I never really found myself improving until I fought someone better than myself. I either learned to counter them or got punished. It was usually 25/75 for me.

Although I do empathize with you too. I once was playing Tekken Tag 2 in a Japanese arcade and got whooped by some school kid. It was at that point I knew I had to go and take a break.
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Posted 7/20/16

Drozy wrote:


ah0tp0tat0 wrote:


Drozy wrote:


I didn't see Soul Calibur on that list


My bad. Forgot to add soul caliber 2 up there.


Should make that 4


I like Soul Caliber 4 just cause you can play as Darth Vader and Yoda but I still think Soul Caliber 2 is the best one
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Posted 7/21/16
err,why give up? to be more specific,what is there to 'give up?'
if u just playing for the sake of winning and not for the enjoyment of learning new pattern of other player everyday,then u r playing fighting game wrong.
ive been playing kof 2002 non um in my local arcade and arcade around my state,for more then 8 year on and off, all i can say is,everyone is inferior to everyone[total new player is out of the pic still],its like a game of rock paper scissor.
good player does not mean that its undefeatable ,it only take some one with a quick pattern learning, and sometime, some one with totally odd playstyle. as i say like rock paper scissor.
i started to play kof98 first, in a small run down arcade,i got beaten and wasted alot of $$,but still i dint give up,even tho i m losing,but its fun to try to learn from mistake,and quicken reflex.
ive never wanted play online,as most of the online gaming for fighting game,will have net lag,even if its little,for me,its just not 'fun'

what u just need is a month++ rest ,just dont touch the game for some time,when u come back,u will discover alot more .
disclaimer tho,the method work for me,may not for other.

play for the fun of playing,result is nothing if u r not in a competition,every match not in competition is just mental,reflex,pattern training.
and always,if possible,play it 'live' not online,no matter how good your internet is,it cannot simulate a live vs match.

just take some time off,play some other mindless games that does not stress you out,some other type of arcade games,beat em up,shooting,puzzle.[assuming u always go to arcade]

sorry for the broken engrish and long winded post.
you are in control of anything you want to take control of,not the game.

good luck,do tell me if u r in a major competition,will give u a cheer
Posted 7/21/16

ah0tp0tat0 wrote:


Drozy wrote:


ah0tp0tat0 wrote:


Drozy wrote:


I didn't see Soul Calibur on that list


My bad. Forgot to add soul caliber 2 up there.


Should make that 4


I like Soul Caliber 4 just cause you can play as Darth Vader and Yoda but I still think Soul Caliber 2 is the best one


I like SC4 for its roster (that is missing like half in SCV), and I agree, SCII was kewl , but not better than the original Soul Calibur, at least in my humble opinion.
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