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Considering what's going to happen, and what's just been set into motion.. I feel sadder watching the despair arc then watching the Future arc after all.. Atleast, for now.

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Episode 3

Wow that was fairly interesting. We got Natsumi who got into a big argument with Sato, a classmate whom she had a history with apparently.

Then later in the episode, she got killed? I'm really curious as to who is the culprit. My guess is Sato for now even though she denies it herself. Also, I think Hinata defended Natsumi (after her death) as he feels similar to her by the fact that they are both "talentless".




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stark700 wrote:

Wow that was fairly interesting. We got Natsumi who got into a big argument with Sato, a classmate whom she had a history with apparently.

Then later in the episode, she got killed? I'm really curious as to who is the culprit.


Should play the 2nd game and you'd know With how they're moving the story along, and how it appears that they're focusing quite a good deal on Hajime, it's quite possible they aren't even going to really bring up the murders for that situation again. The fact that they're already at the Izuru project shows they're blasting through the first year of Class 77 so they can get to the 2nd year where all the crap goes down. Highly likely their first school year will either be almost over or already over by the end of next episode.


Nikuma wrote:

Considering what's going to happen, and what's just been set into motion.. I feel sadder watching the despair arc then watching the Future arc after all.. Atleast, for now.



Last week was definitely the other way around. But with the confirmation that Asahina was never dead this week (at the sacrifice of the Great Brozu, but it's a worthwhile trade) and the fact that just seeing Chiaki upset she doesn't get to play a game with Hajime breaks my heart, it definitely flip-flopped this week... I'm actually REALLY suspicious of Juzo being the traitor in the Future Chapter, though, as being head of Hope's Peak Security, he failed to stop Junko's plans from happening during the 2nd year... Which wasn't a stretch of the imagination thinking it was regular school security, but the fact that the Ultimate Boxer is the head, he should have easily been able to do something. It's just very strange that with both Chisa and Juzo there, the first killing game with the student council was able to happen without any real hiccups...


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Technically, the trial wasn't based on the events. There was a game machine set up that was based on these events and was Monokuma's "motive"ation for the second murder to occur. Then a good part of the investigation and trial was about finding out who was who in the game since they were unnamed in it. Thought I'd clarify so that any possible confusion can be avoided with future episodes (still baffles me why someone would go into this series without having played the games or at the very least watched a LP/summary video/read a detailed summary, but their choice).
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I really enjoyed this episode, but the real cake is that end scene

It looks like the end of a romance anime.


psst psst

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I really enjoyed this episode, but the real cake is that end scene

It looks like the end of a romance anime.



It is the end of a romance anime. A 4 episode romance anime. Unless we'll be hitting the rather untouched in anime topic of domestic violence. Cause things are gonna get violent. Most likely with Chiaki sadly included in there Personal theory here is that Miaya in Future Chapter is Chiaki under a different identity, but with a prosthetic lower jaw and of course now a paraplegic. Unless something happens here, she will be in the first killing game, after all. And if a certain changed someone did cause those severe injuries to her, it could explain possibly not wanting to be touched and the whole "doesn't talk" thing, as well as possibly wanting to be a different person to leave your happy memories with a happy identity. Any way you cut it, this is gonna get heartbreaking real soon, and not in a "Dear John" way
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Anyone else notice the blood was pink (traditional DR), not red like in the Future arc?
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Question: has it been established at all if the DR2 class is older then the DR1 class?
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Question: has it been established at all if the DR2 class is older then the DR1 class?


It has yet to be concretely established but it was implied, in that the DR2's are older.

According to Naegi, they were his senpai(s).
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Question: has it been established at all if the DR2 class is older then the DR1 class?


I think DR2 is the 77th graduating class while DR1 is the 78th graduating class. So it's been indirectly established.
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Alright, neat-o.

In the first two games when they talked about the 2 years of lost memory I thought it had implied that they were in the same year but different classes. And got a bit thrown in this anime when Kizakura mentioned having to scout for a high-stakes gambler (aka Celes) and the idea that Junko and Naegi's class hadn't been formed yet.

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Actually wait, that DOES thrown a discrepancy in what we're told in the missing two years of memories for both the DR1 class and DR2 cast!

So ok, in both games they explicitly mention that both classes lost all of their school memories. Two years worth. And that for DR2's class, deliberately so because it's their time at school and interactions with Junko that caused them to become Remnants of Despair. Which happens in their second year. Conversely, with the DR1 class, when the Tragedy goes down and the chain of events being set off across the world and all of them agreeing to making Hope's Peak a fortress for them to bunker down and wait for things to quiet down. This happens in their second year.

Altogether, that means both classes were in their second year at Hope's Peak when the Tragedy happened. Which naturally makes one assume they are of the same age and school year. So the bit at the beginning that suggested the DR1 class hasn't been formed yet when the DR2 class are two years into their first year at Hope's Peak.

So.....wha?

Unless if there's some staggering of Japanese school terms I'm not familiar with right now, ugh...
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tasti_man_LH wrote:

Alright, neat-o.

In the first two games when they talked about the 2 years of lost memory I thought it had implied that they were in the same year but different classes. And got a bit thrown in this anime when Kizakura mentioned having to scout for a high-stakes gambler (aka Celes) and the idea that Junko and Naegi's class hadn't been formed yet.

...

Actually wait, that DOES thrown a discrepancy in what we're told in the missing two years of memories for both the DR1 class and DR2 cast!

So ok, in both games they explicitly mention that both classes lost all of their school memories. Two years worth. And that for DR2's class, deliberately so because it's their time at school and interactions with Junko that caused them to become Remnants of Despair. Which happens in their second year. Conversely, with the DR1 class, when the Tragedy goes down and the chain of events being set off across the world and all of them agreeing to making Hope's Peak a fortress for them to bunker down and wait for things to quiet down. This happens in their second year.

Altogether, that means both classes were in their second year at Hope's Peak when the Tragedy happened. Which naturally makes one assume they are of the same age and school year. So the bit at the beginning that suggested the DR1 class hasn't been formed yet when the DR2 class are two years into their first year at Hope's Peak.

So.....wha?

Unless if there's some staggering of Japanese school terms I'm not familiar with right now, ugh...


The DR2 cast is in the 77th Graduating Class. The DR1 cast is in the 78th Graduating Class. Those two things have been stated in the games, so it's directly told us that the DR2 cast is older.

Also, the Tragedy happened in the 78th Class's first year. Junko comes in, causes our good ol' experiment friend to basically instigate the testing Killing Game with the Student Council, then the events of Danganronpa/Zero happen. This all leads to the Tragedy, which in turn leads to DR1. Where you may be mixing things up is that I'm guessing you're saying that the Tragedy happens in the 78th's second year because of how they realize they lost two years' worth of memories with their memory wipe right before DR1. The 78th Class had already spent a year in the boarded up Hope's Peak before the first game, and add on their one regular year of school, and you have two years to have erased. It sounds like you've played the first and second games at the least at some point, but since you're mixing things up, I'd recommend going and reading a summary on somewhere like the Danganronpa wiki to help you sort things out, as there's enough to keep track of with the two series running in the same season here, let alone remembering everything that has happened before (after) and how the whole timeline is staying together. They've made it rather complicated at the end here
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I just finished watching the first 3 episodes. I'm surprised that Chiaki was a real student.


It was also nice to see the events that the Twilight Syndrome Murder Case was based on. I had no idea Girl E was going to be a Reserve Course student and that Hajime was going to witness at least part of it.

It's kind of ironic how the incident with the security guards was the final straw that pushed Hajime to take part in the experiment that they were investigating.
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The anime is way better if you played the games. The second one especially, the despair arc is more of a background story than a mystery though.
You can buy both games on steam, but I suppose you only really have to buy the second one if you watch the Danganronpa 1 anime.
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Ah the despair continues. At first, Seiko appeared to me as a peculiar character but I like her already

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