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Victoryfraud wrote:

Yeez. Seems the world forgot to take it's pills the last couple of weeks.


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LONGNAMEYOUWONTMISS wrote:

xxxxx conservative who's trying to drag xxxxx back into the 19th century.


Sounds familiar somehow.
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Hei din Norsking! :D


Hipp hipp heisann!
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The parliament building has been bombed.
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HuastecoOtaku wrote:

The parliament building has been bombed.


Fuck me...
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HuastecoOtaku wrote:

The parliament building has been bombed.


Fuck me...


No thanks, I'll pass on that.
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Mastermind of Erdoğan's presidential election campaign, Erol Olçak & his 16-year-old son killed by coup soldiers on Bosphorus bridge
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WeeabooWarrior wrote:

Just like Prince Judar said, "People are amusing".


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Gobble-gobble


That's awesome.
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MysticGon wrote:

Have any shots been fired yet?


A loyalist F-16 shot down a coup helicopter
Tank fired on parlament building
Tanks running over civilians that are on foot, laying down, and in cars
Helicopters and soldiers firing on civilians


Look, neither side is "clean" in this. It's a decades-long power struggle between the center of the remnant of the Ottoman Empire and the "periphery", the fiefdoms:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-power-struggle-that-led-to-turkeys-coup-attempt-2016-07-15

...and the "interesting" part is the history and the extremely complex politics, NOT the part about civilians getting killed by military as we speak
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ever since Pokemon Go was released, crap's just been hitting the fan lol
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Jeez, first the coup sounds like its being suppressed, then its gearing back up again, then its suppressed, then suddenly word is there are reinforcements from the military joining the coup. Then there's word that soldiers are surrendering. Trying to follow this story is like playing a really confusing and fast game of whack-a-mole.
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This is the problem with these live-update news feeds. The Turkish government is claiming the coup failed and it's over, the coup claims that the coup is going strong.
All the news feeds read like propaganda.
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How can it be new Ottoman when the people doing the coup are secular nationalists? Let me explain. The rebel faction declare they aim to "reinstate constitutional order, human rights and freedoms". However, it's hard to tell who exactly is behind the coup at the moment, but it appears to be a collection of organised mid-level officers - many of the former high level officers were changed by Erdogan.

Although Erdogan has built ties with many Western countries, and helped deliver their foreign policies in the region, many 'old guard' Turkish Kemalist Secularists, and possibly some Secular Liberals, have become very distrustful of the 'Islamic flavouring' and Ottoman nostalgia of Erdogan's presidency and the repeal of many strongly secular laws (similar to those in france, as the repressive French govt. banns the viel in public hence telling women how to dress, schools suspending girls for wearing long skirts etc) that limited Islamic practices.

As Egypt, 1990s Turkey & Algeria and Gaza found out, whenever elections bring to power a government not fully to the Secularists liking, they annul the elections, 'democracy' and constitutional law. And if no one in the country opposes the elected government, then Western secular states sanction or pressure the country (like what occurred to Gaza). Other countries, like 1960s Iran and many South American countries during the cold war faced coups facilitated by direct Western intervention that led to the deposing of their elected governments, to be replaced with pro-Western autocrats [1]).

Clearly we have seen throughout recent history, many Secularists believe people's choices and elections only should be respected as long as they serve Secularism, not the other way round.
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