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Post Reply Why is hentai bad when anime itself is a lot of sexual innuendo.
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Posted 7/16/16

lorreen wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:
The only one who can rape Jophar is me.


So yeah, let's not going making rape jokes like that, okay?


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

At least speak English. It would ease the burden of understanding you and less likely to get pissed.


Really close to the line of insult there. When I read that it sounds quite rude (the "At least speak English" part) and like a put-down. There are more polite ways to let someone know you are having trouble comprehending them.



I'm sorry, I'll try better next time.
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Posted 7/16/16 , edited 7/16/16
Aaand. I'd been editing my prior post when things went a little crashy here, so now I'll add:

On-topic:

Hentai, when used by English language speakers to refer to things like anime and manga, does mean porn. As others have mentioned it's a matter of explicitness. A very basic definition from Merriam-Webster says pornography is material that "show[s] or describe[s] naked people or sex in a very open and direct way in order to cause sexual excitement."

So, it's partly the directness (innuendo by definition is not direct), and partly the context -- is the primary purpose to cause sexual excitement? Put the two together and you've got porn.

There's not really a super clear line though as I imagine there's a range of explicitness and directness, with or without blurs, from what would be more "softcore" to stuff that's not soft at all.

Also, standard reminder here: Please keep this discussion appropriate for CR. Don't name hentai titles, don't get explicit, or overly vulgar and crass.
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Posted 7/16/16
I don't have a problem with hentai in theory.
The only problem I have with it in reality is that the animation tends to be pretty crappy...
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Posted 7/16/16

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Looks like I need to use this picture again.



"don't get explicit, or overly vulgar and crass" - too late
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Posted 7/16/16
Anime isn't bad because of sexual innuendos, they are bad because they are over used and uncreative.

like the spineless accidental pervert
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ComboChrist wrote:

Sexual innuendo =/= ogre-gang-rape

Why is this even a question?


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Posted 7/16/16 , edited 7/16/16
Hentai is porn. Innuendo is not. Therein lies the difference.

Hentai is not inherently bad because it's porn, but it contains the same issues as porn involving real people. This includes and is not limited to things such as objectification of women and desensitization of sexual violence as well as taboo subject matter like incest and engaging in sexual activity with minors.
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Posted 7/16/16

Ocale wrote:

Only garbage anime are sexual.


No, there is a lot of very good and fun anime that has sexual content, a lot of it available on CR, in fact.

Now, hentai? It's the same as any nation's live action porn: There is a wide variety of categories, just as there is with live porn. Hentai material, just like live action porn, naturally reflects Japanese sexual attitudes, and Japan remains very much a male-dominated, patriarchal society, which is frequently still un-PC. Plus it has to deal with Japanese censorship laws, which has resulted in frequent use of substitute practices to get around the censorship (what impact that might have had on Japanese sexuality is uncertain). We are talking about a country, that as recently as 2012 (and possibly today?), did not have a single 24-hour rape crisis center in the entire nation.

Posted 7/16/16

lawdog wrote:

No, there is a lot of very good and fun anime that has sexual content, a lot of it available on CR, in fact.



No, they're all bad.

Objectively. Because I say so.
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Posted 7/16/16
Throwing a vote in for "the higher the H content, the poorer the anime".

There may be exceptions, but none come to mind, because in these anime the voice actresses are cast into saying the same lines they've probably said for fifteen other anime ("Where do you think you're looking?!" "What are you doing in here?!" "Don't look!!" etc.). And then the Protagonist is attacked, because "lol, girlz r sooo cray-cray they don listn 2 anythin when they mad". The time the directors could have spent making them feel like real people, they instead use to turn the camera on their secondary sexual characteristics (which somehow defy physics with a life of their own).

Scratch that; Bakemonogatari teases some H. The difference between this show and the other 99% being that the characters aren't cardboard cut outs written to fill quotas for archetypes like Ice Princess or Class President, and the Protagonist's pervy moments are fresh and unorthodox, but they do not define his entire character. Once every other episode, an H joke is made, the audience laughs and sympathizes with both characters, and then the show moves on. (Late bias warning: I love Bakemonogatari)

What does this have to do with Hentai? Absolutely nothing. Guess I'll add a point for that...

Anime is to hentai, what R rated action films are to low quality AVs at your local adult shop. Sure, the former may feature outright nudity sometimes, but the very clear line of The Act distinguishes the two. The Act is regularly regulated all over the world, so this isn't much of an "anime issue", no matter the amount of "innuendos".
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Posted 7/16/16
Hentai is pure pornography and is thus bad.
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Posted 7/16/16 , edited 7/16/16
sexual stuff in anime seem so forced and desperate, honestly. and it's always the same. it just ruins it for me.

anyway hentai is just really weird because it's super exaggerated. I mean it's anime, shouldn't be taken seriously obviously, but it's just so exaggerated omg

and like I said, it's all the same. pretty boring tbh
Posted 7/16/16

Ocale wrote:

Only garbage anime are sexual.


Agreed
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Posted 7/16/16
I don't think hentai is as mainstream. Its a form of porn. Hentai has their own forums I think, no?
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Posted 7/16/16 , edited 7/16/16
Hentai isn't bad.
Anime with sexual innuendo isn't bad either.

The way anime executes it is usually not the best, if it's for humor and not cliched, perfect. What I want is an anime that adds sex scenes but not hentai. Rated R movies do it all the time, why can't anime? I want it to be added as something immersive. Like why does the MC not hit up any of the obvious advances?
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