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I dunno. I dont disagree, but I don't think watching anime gives you some super unique enlightened view of the world. I mean I like a diverse cast, but in anime, nationality and race is little more than a stamp. It's just there.

Everyone thinks race is doesn't matter but it does. There are parts of me that wouldn't exist without both sides of my race. The culture surrounding a race can change how you develop, what you face, and what values will be instilled into you.

But that's just my opinion





......................................... I think race and Nationality Should be a stamp. That's all.

Goddamn, you are putting way too much of yourself into your race. Your race doesn't define you. Your actions do, Your Interested do. Why do people THINK LIKE THIS. GOD DAMN IT. I'm sorry, but this honestly just seems irritating that people think like this. The Culture is NOT THE RACE. It has nothing to do with it. I admit your culture does, But not your race.
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So is that a yuri anime or something? Cause if so wouldn't she be a lesbian :p???

I agree that race can change the culture you grow up in, but that's really more or less how races adopt a "cult like" mentality based on their history, more so than something that comes with the race. White people who grow up in less fortunate neighborhoods might have a similar cultural atmosphere than a stereotypical "black culture"(not that I'm saying all black people have the same culture), just as a rich black person might seem really "american-ized" by comparison. In general, culture and race have very little to do with anything except how races tend to try and associate each other as similar. In other words, most culture gained by race just have to do with either socio-economical outcomes, or basically just minorities stereotyping each other as similar people.
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To summarize my point in a much more efficient shorter package :

Race and culture have nothing to do with one another, except that races tend to stereotype their people in order to make "think-like" cult mentalities. The culture of black people and native americans are so similar, yet the only real difference is the race and traditions each have. Most poor white people have similar cultural values to minorities, again nothing to do with race.
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Posted 7/19/16 , edited 7/20/16

TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:

Same dude! It's nice to see someone who doesn't just dumb down everything due to labels . A lot of my real life friends agree too.


Yeah same.....................................










.....sorry, I just had a moment there. Personal stuff.

Anyway, Let's not get Emo Theta :D

I seriously wish I could meet a girl like this. I have a small folder with just a couple pictures of this anime character........I feel like I a developing a Waifu complex with her......And honestly that worries me.........

BUT SHE'S JUST SO GODDAMN CUTE.
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Yeah same.....................................

.....sorry, I just had a moment there. Personal stuff.

Anyway, Let's not get Emo Theta :D

I seriously wish I could meet a girl like this. I have a small folder with just a couple pictures of this anime character........I feel like I a developing a Waifu complex with her......And honestly that worries me.........

BUT SHE'S JUST SO GODDAMN CUTE.


Lol it's getting deep up in here XD.

In all seriousness though I don't have any real waifu things except I do happen to like Winry and Misato a lot. That's about it.
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American stereotypes in anime aren't offensive to me. They're funny, if anything. Also, Japan literally has a 99% Japanese population, so it makes sense that there wouldn't be a lot of non-Japanese people in their media.


Yeah, I know. Every once and while, I'd like a realistic American (Or maybe their stereotypes are right and I'm the odd one! ). American stereotypes aren't really offensive to me, they just get little old after a while (or maybe I'm getting too old)..
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TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:

So is that a yuri anime or something? Cause if so wouldn't she be a lesbian :p???

I agree that race can change the culture you grow up in, but that's really more or less how races adopt a "cult like" mentality based on their history, more so than something that comes with the race. White people who grow up in less fortunate neighborhoods might have a similar cultural atmosphere than a stereotypical "black culture"(not that I'm saying all black people have the same culture), just as a rich black person might seem really "american-ized" by comparison. In general, culture and race have very little to do with anything except how races tend to try and associate each other as similar. In other words, most culture gained by race just have to do with either socio-economical outcomes, or basically just minorities stereotyping each other as similar people.


A................Yes it is...................New Game, a new anime this season.....I mean I love Yuri anime, and I think she is gay for the main girl, but I still love how cute she is.

But, yeah, I know what you mean. I'm just used to detaching race entirely from culture whist ignoring the cult-like mentality that people wish to attach to a race, Because I know the people who do try to corrolate race and culture are simply wrong. Because I know that Nearly all neighboorhoods with poverty will commit crime regardless of race, as I myself have experienced being in a poverty stricken town.....which was crime stricken similar to the "ghetto" sub-culture.
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UsagiRave wrote:

I dunno. I dont disagree, but I don't think watching anime gives you some super unique enlightened view of the world. I mean I like a diverse cast, but in anime, nationality and race is little more than a stamp. It's just there.

Everyone thinks race is doesn't matter but it does. There are parts of me that wouldn't exist without both sides of my race. The culture surrounding a race can change how you develop, what you face, and what values will be instilled into you.

But that's just my opinion





......................................... I think race and Nationality Should be a stamp. That's all.

Goddamn, you are putting way too much of yourself into your race. Your race doesn't define you. Your actions do, Your Interested do. Why do people THINK LIKE THIS. GOD DAMN IT. I'm sorry, but this honestly just seems irritating that people think like this. The Culture is NOT THE RACE. It has nothing to do with it. I admit your culture does, But not your race.


But my actions are determined by my upbringing, which is a part of my races culture.

For example, have a character stamped "Asian" just feels cheap. I feels like you stamped him/her just to pander to me. I find that more offensive than just not having an Asian, which I find relatively inoffensive.

No I'm not asking that we make this some 80's after school special where we have vague caricatures of races and nationalities just for the sake of inclusion, but isn't it about time where we have characters that have real backgrounds? I mean some of my friends have some really unique backgrounds that would be so much fun to write, and yet no avail :/
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Kanudelgruber wrote:

American stereotypes in anime aren't offensive to me. They're funny, if anything. Also, Japan literally has a 99% Japanese population, so it makes sense that there wouldn't be a lot of non-Japanese people in their media.


Yeah, I know. Every once and while, I'd like a realistic American (Or maybe their stereotypes are right and I'm the odd one! ). American stereotypes aren't really offensive to me, they just get little old after a while (or maybe I'm getting too old)..


Well First, Stop Correlating RACE with culture.

Secondly, I do see that American culture is considered idiotically decepted in Japan, but it's only because Japan is very closed off from the world, this stereotype is all they really have.
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TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:

So is that a yuri anime or something? Cause if so wouldn't she be a lesbian :p???

I agree that race can change the culture you grow up in, but that's really more or less how races adopt a "cult like" mentality based on their history, more so than something that comes with the race. White people who grow up in less fortunate neighborhoods might have a similar cultural atmosphere than a stereotypical "black culture"(not that I'm saying all black people have the same culture), just as a rich black person might seem really "american-ized" by comparison. In general, culture and race have very little to do with anything except how races tend to try and associate each other as similar. In other words, most culture gained by race just have to do with either socio-economical outcomes, or basically just minorities stereotyping each other as similar people.


A................Yes it is...................New Game, a new anime this season.....I mean I love Yuri anime, and I think she is gay for the main girl, but I still love how cute she is.

But, yeah, I know what you mean. I'm just used to detaching race entirely from culture whist ignoring the cult-like mentality that people wish to attach to a race, Because I know the people who do try to corrolate race and culture are simply wrong. Because I know that Nearly all neighboorhoods with poverty will commit crime regardless of race, as I myself have experienced being in a poverty stricken town.....which was crime stricken similar to the "ghetto" sub-culture.


Agree with you entirely. I was also in deep into the ghettos growing up and didn't get out of the poor neighborhood till ten, so I've only been a "white priviledged male" for 6 years
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CreatorTheta wrote:


UsagiRave wrote:

I dunno. I dont disagree, but I don't think watching anime gives you some super unique enlightened view of the world. I mean I like a diverse cast, but in anime, nationality and race is little more than a stamp. It's just there.

Everyone thinks race is doesn't matter but it does. There are parts of me that wouldn't exist without both sides of my race. The culture surrounding a race can change how you develop, what you face, and what values will be instilled into you.

But that's just my opinion





......................................... I think race and Nationality Should be a stamp. That's all.

Goddamn, you are putting way too much of yourself into your race. Your race doesn't define you. Your actions do, Your Interested do. Why do people THINK LIKE THIS. GOD DAMN IT. I'm sorry, but this honestly just seems irritating that people think like this. The Culture is NOT THE RACE. It has nothing to do with it. I admit your culture does, But not your race.


But my actions are determined by my upbringing, which is a part of my races culture.

For example, have a character stamped "Asian" just feels cheap. I feels like you stamped him/her just to pander to me. I find that more offensive than just not having an Asian, which I find relatively inoffensive.

No I'm not asking that we make this some 80's after school special where we have vague caricatures of races and nationalities just for the sake of inclusion, but isn't it about time where we have characters that have real backgrounds? I mean some of my friends have some really unique backgrounds that would be so much fun to write, and yet no avail :/



Your actions are Determined by your Culture, Yes. But, Your culture IS NOT APART OF YOUR RACE. It's a stereotype you are attributing for the sake of self importance and ego. A person who is another race raised in the same culture will behaviour the similar nearly 100% of the time, as the same with those of the same race in that culture.

Please, just stop attaching your race and your friends race to their culture and their pasts, it belittles them as people.

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jtjumper wrote:


Kanudelgruber wrote:

American stereotypes in anime aren't offensive to me. They're funny, if anything. Also, Japan literally has a 99% Japanese population, so it makes sense that there wouldn't be a lot of non-Japanese people in their media.


Yeah, I know. Every once and while, I'd like a realistic American (Or maybe their stereotypes are right and I'm the odd one! ). American stereotypes aren't really offensive to me, they just get little old after a while (or maybe I'm getting too old)..


Well First, Stop Correlating RACE with culture.

Secondly, I do see that American culture is considered idiotically decepted in Japan, but it's only because Japan is very closed off from the world, this stereotype is all they really have.


Just because you've lost touch with your racial culture doesn't mean everyone else has to throw theirs away lol
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CreatorTheta wrote:


UsagiRave wrote:

I dunno. I dont disagree, but I don't think watching anime gives you some super unique enlightened view of the world. I mean I like a diverse cast, but in anime, nationality and race is little more than a stamp. It's just there.

Everyone thinks race is doesn't matter but it does. There are parts of me that wouldn't exist without both sides of my race. The culture surrounding a race can change how you develop, what you face, and what values will be instilled into you.

But that's just my opinion





......................................... I think race and Nationality Should be a stamp. That's all.

Goddamn, you are putting way too much of yourself into your race. Your race doesn't define you. Your actions do, Your Interested do. Why do people THINK LIKE THIS. GOD DAMN IT. I'm sorry, but this honestly just seems irritating that people think like this. The Culture is NOT THE RACE. It has nothing to do with it. I admit your culture does, But not your race.


But my actions are determined by my upbringing, which is a part of my races culture.

For example, have a character stamped "Asian" just feels cheap. I feels like you stamped him/her just to pander to me. I find that more offensive than just not having an Asian, which I find relatively inoffensive.

No I'm not asking that we make this some 80's after school special where we have vague caricatures of races and nationalities just for the sake of inclusion, but isn't it about time where we have characters that have real backgrounds? I mean some of my friends have some really unique backgrounds that would be so much fun to write, and yet no avail :/



Your upbringing has to do with ideologies and concepts that your people adopted, sure, and maybe back in the 1800's Culture and Race had a strong tie, but now it's nothing more than think-alike race mentalities. People want to believe that culture and race are the same, that "black culture" refers to black people having their own culture, yet if you look at white people in similar situations they have similar cultural values. It has nothing to do with race actually having a connection to culture...the closest it ever did was a 100 years ago, it has to do with minorities stereotyping other minorities in order to try and act like all minorities are behind their values and ideas. Again, just because you might have an ethnic upbringing that fits into a certain "culture" doesn't mean that culture is connected to that ethnic group. I was a really poor white for most of my life, and so I could identify with the idea of a "stereotypical black ghetto culture". Yet, I'm not black.
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TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:


CreatorTheta wrote:


TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:

So is that a yuri anime or something? Cause if so wouldn't she be a lesbian :p???

I agree that race can change the culture you grow up in, but that's really more or less how races adopt a "cult like" mentality based on their history, more so than something that comes with the race. White people who grow up in less fortunate neighborhoods might have a similar cultural atmosphere than a stereotypical "black culture"(not that I'm saying all black people have the same culture), just as a rich black person might seem really "american-ized" by comparison. In general, culture and race have very little to do with anything except how races tend to try and associate each other as similar. In other words, most culture gained by race just have to do with either socio-economical outcomes, or basically just minorities stereotyping each other as similar people.


A................Yes it is...................New Game, a new anime this season.....I mean I love Yuri anime, and I think she is gay for the main girl, but I still love how cute she is.

But, yeah, I know what you mean. I'm just used to detaching race entirely from culture whist ignoring the cult-like mentality that people wish to attach to a race, Because I know the people who do try to corrolate race and culture are simply wrong. Because I know that Nearly all neighboorhoods with poverty will commit crime regardless of race, as I myself have experienced being in a poverty stricken town.....which was crime stricken similar to the "ghetto" sub-culture.


Agree with you entirely. I was also in deep into the ghettos growing up and didn't get out of the poor neighborhood till ten, so I've only been a "white priviledged male" for 6 years


3 years for me bro. Though I can't be considered "priviledged" because I have a physical disability.......





...........................................Yeah, I just had another emo moment.
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Just because you've lost touch with your racial culture doesn't mean everyone else has to throw theirs away lol






Fuck off


Sorry, but seriously, Fuck off.
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