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Who's more evil, Hillary or Trump?
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maniackillah wrote: Johnson's foreign policy is particularly scary to me, maybe more scary than hillary.



namealreadytaken wrote: he wants to focus more on international relationship to combat terrorism and cut-off the extremists funding, instead of just deploying more meat to the ground. i don't get why that's "scary", unless he's lying or something.

Based on my little knowledge of Johnson's policy (compared to the other two) let me know if I'm wrong honestly.

He is for an greatly reduced military budget at a time when we have people like N. Korea, Russia and China as well as the Super Islamic State, terrible idea. How does he plan on stopping their funding in general and from nations Iran and Saudi Arabia without "boots and bombs". It's a promise he can never keep. If you ask any military strategist they'll tell you there's no way to stop funding without force. So his political view there is contradictory and makes totally no sense to me.

All around military and defense he's pretty bad also from his rhetoric it seems like he just wants to stay out of everything that isn't currently involving the U.S. and just 100% focus on ourselves which to me is totally dangerous. The U.S. is the country that has to stop tyranny that is why it was made and that's why I love it. If we avoid problems and let other people handle them or no one handle them the problem will persist and act as cancer that will eventually make it to interaction directly involving the U.S.

I would be very worried about his interactions with Mexico, China, North Korea, Russia , Iran pretty much everywhere.

I'm not a total hater I really do like some of the libertarian ideals just not all of them. Based on foreign policy and dealings with the middle east it would be a tough choice between Johnson and Clinton for me, if they were the only two.
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Trump wants to purge the federal government of Obama-appointed officials. Word is Obama want to turn them into civil servants to prevent that. This is getting pretty ugly.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN10003A
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I wouldn't call either of them "evil", but both are undesirable candidates. That being said, while Hillary may be crooked, I am at least relatively confident that while Hillary is not a person I'd want in the White House, at least she wouldn't destroy the economy and international relations with every single country the moment she opened her mouth.
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I'll have to say Hillary is evil.

Trump is more of a con man.
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maniackillah wrote:The U.S. is the country that has to stop tyranny that is why it was made and that's why I love it. If we avoid problems and let other people handle them or no one handle them the problem will persist and act as cancer that will eventually make it to interaction directly involving the U.S. I would be very worried about his interactions with Mexico, China, North Korea, Russia , Iran pretty much everywhere.

US had a very interventionist policy for 1.5 decades. guess how it turned out for the US. (hint: iraq)
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I want to die
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redokami wrote:

I trust a Alabama hot pocket more than our leaders


I know what that is, and it is quite gross.
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brookline wrote:

I'll have to say Hillary is evil.

Trump is more of a con man.


yea, trump is the kind of guy that will do anything to make a deal, and scam you

Hillary on the other hand has blood on her hands, want to know how she will handle our troops? look at Benghazi, she said it was a MOVIE


no fucking thank you

I am a Bernie supporter , the whole reason I supported Bernie was because his whole platform was against the establishment and you cant get more establishment than Hillary, now unfortunately he is supporting her, yea, just for fucking votes, that aint making me vote for her

and quite frankly I will probably never vote democrat again, IF I vote again
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maniackillah wrote:

Based on my little knowledge of Johnson's policy (compared to the other two) let me know if I'm wrong honestly.

He is for an greatly reduced military budget at a time when we have people like N. Korea, Russia and China as well as the Super Islamic State, terrible idea. How does he plan on stopping their funding in general and from nations Iran and Saudi Arabia without "boots and bombs". It's a promise he can never keep. If you ask any military strategist they'll tell you there's no way to stop funding without force. So his political view there is contradictory and makes totally no sense to me.

All around military and defense he's pretty bad also from his rhetoric it seems like he just wants to stay out of everything that isn't currently involving the U.S. and just 100% focus on ourselves which to me is totally dangerous. The U.S. is the country that has to stop tyranny that is why it was made and that's why I love it. If we avoid problems and let other people handle them or no one handle them the problem will persist and act as cancer that will eventually make it to interaction directly involving the U.S.

I would be very worried about his interactions with Mexico, China, North Korea, Russia , Iran pretty much everywhere.

I'm not a total hater I really do like some of the libertarian ideals just not all of them. Based on foreign policy and dealings with the middle east it would be a tough choice between Johnson and Clinton for me, if they were the only two.


This idea that America is the world's policeman and that only brute force can change the world is the dangerous mindset that created ISIS in the first place. Bombing the hell out of every country we hate will only breed more anger and hostility towards us. The invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were built on lies and made the entire region even more unstable than it already was. Only a delusional fool would say such tactics were a success and need to be repeated. Libya has turned into a giant jihadists training camp that brought ISIS into power. Guess who made Libya such a mess? We did. That psycho Hillary called it a success and is still saying we should do the same in Syria. Every time we go and try to "stop tyranny" in the Middle East, we give more land to terrorists. When these terrorists attack us, the crazy politicians always say that we should go bomb these countries again. What kind of logic is that?

People who say cutting back on military spending will destroy this nation are just fear mongering. We spend more on our military than the next 10 countries combined. Cutting back 1 or 2 billion dollars won't be enough to put China, Russia, or any other country on the planet anywhere close to us. We spend an excessive amount of money on our military and a lot of that money goes towards wars that we get ourselves into for no reason.

I think you're confused about Trump and Hillary's foreign policies. Your idea of blowing countries off the map to erase tyrants and terrorists is counterproductive and it's exactly the kind of thing that Hillary preaches 24/7. If you want a candidate who will repeat the same mistakes of the last 14 years and start a war in the name of democracy, you're better off supporting her. She's one of the most war-hungry major party candidates we've had in a long time. She makes Dick Cheney look like Gandhi. Trump's foreign policy is non-intervention for the most part. If Russia wants to waste their resources fighting a stupid war in Syria, he says we should let them. It's not our place to be in. This is surprisingly the only thing Trump has said throughout his entire campaign that makes sense. The only problem is that he's repeatedly called for murdering civilians just for being related to terrorists, which is a war crime. Other than that, he wants us to stay out of war. His position on war is closer to the libertarian position, which puts him closer to Gary Johnson. This is the only good thing I can ever say about Trump.
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As an outside observer to the American political process (thus making my opinion utterly meaningless), I'd say Trumpy-chan is the much greater threat to life on Earth.
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maniackillah wrote: The U.S. is the country that has to stop tyranny that is why it was made and that's why I love it. If we avoid problems and let other people handle them or no one handle them the problem will persist and act as cancer that will eventually make it to interaction directly involving the U.S. I would be very worried about his interactions with Mexico, China, North Korea, Russia , Iran pretty much everywhere.


namealreadytaken wrote: US had a very interventionist policy for 1.5 decades. guess how it turned out for the US. (hint: iraq)


Great let's look at Iraq, this is what I mean when people don't think about why we are here right now and listen to the media. I'm not talking about only you I'm talking about most citizens. Entering Iraq and taking down Hussein wasn't the mistake it was actually justified and necessary, not for the "weapons of mass destruction" but because of Hussein's action's he had to go. The Obama Administration (INCLUDING HILLARY) is the reason things went bad. He followed ideas like johnson's that the war wasn't working then pulled troops, that destabilized the middle east, making a much bigger problem occur that we are now dealing with, ISIS.

You should check out Christopher Hitchens, he'll give it to you straight about the middle east.

Phantom Gundam wrote: This idea that America is the world's policeman and that only brute force can change the world is the dangerous mindset that created ISIS in the first place. Bombing the hell out of every country we hate will only breed more anger and hostility towards us. The invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were built on lies and made the entire region even more unstable than it already was. Only a delusional fool would say such tactics were a success and need to be repeated. Libya has turned into a giant jihadists training camp that brought ISIS into power. Guess who made Libya such a mess? We did. That psycho Hillary called it a success and is still saying we should do the same in Syria. Every time we go and try to "stop tyranny" in the Middle East, we give more land to terrorists. When these terrorists attack us, the crazy politicians always say that we should go bomb these countries again. What kind of logic is that?

People who say cutting back on military spending will destroy this nation are just fear mongering. We spend more on our military than the next 10 countries combined. Cutting back 1 or 2 billion dollars won't be enough to put China, Russia, or any other country on the planet anywhere close to us. We spend an excessive amount of money on our military and a lot of that money goes towards wars that we get ourselves into for no reason.

I think you're confused about Trump and Hillary's foreign policies. Your idea of blowing countries off the map to erase tyrants and terrorists is counterproductive and it's exactly the kind of thing that Hillary preaches 24/7. If you want a candidate who will repeat the same mistakes of the last 14 years and start a war in the name of democracy, you're better off supporting her. She's one of the most war-hungry major party candidates we've had in a long time. She makes Dick Cheney look like Gandhi. Trump's foreign policy is non-intervention for the most part. If Russia wants to waste their resources fighting a stupid war in Syria, he says we should let them. It's not our place to be in. This is surprisingly the only thing Trump has said throughout his entire campaign that makes sense. The only problem is that he's repeatedly called for murdering civilians just for being related to terrorists, which is a war crime. Other than that, he wants us to stay out of war. His position on war is closer to the libertarian position, which puts him closer to Gary Johnson. This is the only good thing I can ever say about Trump.


I don't even got time to read this babel. If I did I would write a whole page on your pseudo-rant.

Here it is short. Us harming them is not the reason for they aggression towards the west, educate yourself. Look up Arab Spring, Look at destabilization of the middle east, Look at the book these people have been forced to follow and its rhetoric.

Listen if we didn't involve ourselves in wars we could end up being overrun by hitler type's, if we wait to long it may be to late to hop in and be the last line of defense before serious global catastrophe and take over. When trump says he is going to make the military better It makes me feel warm and tingly because it is a deterrent to idiocy.

Right trump only wants to fight when we have to, Johnson just doesn't want to fight at all he thinks there is no point apparently. Once again your misunderstanding the mistakes that were made in the middle east. The oppressive nature of sharia and ideology forced upon nations of this type has caused this as well as tyranny. When we try to nation build it can be good if people get it together and understand how civilization works at its best, Freedom. As I said earlier Bush didn't make the mistake it was Obama and Hillary. Once again Johnson is not viable for me for his stance here and others I have stated.
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He is going to BUILD A WALL!! on the border to MEXICO!!
At least Hillary has a shred of common sense!
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