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Why should religion be banned, and how is that any different than the religious forcing conversion on secular society?
Posted 7/21/16 , edited 7/21/16
In musings upon another thread.

I don't care if thats how it is where you are, or its possible where you are, I have news for you, Its simply not going to happen here in the US.

This is a theoretical question, but please, give us your feedback on this. How is a ban on religion for government officials, or anyone for that matter, different from religions forced conversion and crusading?

< My view is that the bashing of religion by secular humanists is extremist. In either direction, extremism is bad.

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I guess the biggest difference would be the lack of genocide...?
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demo_Animation wrote:

I guess the biggest difference would be the lack of genocide...?


This...lol.

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rinrakuu wrote:

In musings upon another thread.

I don't care if thats how it is where you are, or its possible where you are, I have news for you, Its simply not going to happen here in the US.

This is a theoretical question, but please, give us your feedback on this. How is a ban on religion for government officials, or anyone for that matter, different from religions forced conversion and crusading?

< My view is that the bashing of religion by secular humanists is extremist. In either direction, extremism is bad.

Enjoy.


You're basically right, accept people aren't saying that goverment officials shouldn't be religious - just unbiased.
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watch out i since a ban on this topic lol, well alot ppl have died for and by religion. but alot have died for money too sho ban it too.

ITs not but what if a religion like islam openly hates gay?
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TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:


demo_Animation wrote:

I guess the biggest difference would be the lack of genocide...?


This...lol.



youre pretty damn smart for a 16 anime nerd lol
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demo_Animation wrote:

I guess the biggest difference would be the lack of genocide...?


not true look at stalin and mau of china killed 120 million without religion
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Religion causes more problems than it solves. Simple as that. Feel free to believe whatever you wish, but the second it harms another person, no amount of good can make up for that. You don't need to believe in any sort of faith to be a good person. And too many times I've seen faith turn people into monsters.

You aren't born with a faith. You're taught it. And for centuries people have been taught to hate and harm and kill people with things they are born with, such a differing gender identities and sexualities and disabilities.

No amount of good can ever, EVER, make up for all the harm it has caused.
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watch out i since a ban on this topic lol, well alot ppl have died for and by religion. but alot have died for money too sho ban it too.

ITs not but what if a religion like islam openly hates gay?


I'm not like you -- I'm not worried so much about bans. If the mods decide to close this thread, then so be it. That's their call to make. Having said that however, there is such a thing as free speech, and as my topic isn't breaking any rules I'm not worried. That of course does not mean the people that post on this thread won't cause it to be shut down. But I'll live.
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Well, somewhat indirectly, atheists are banned from politics, so banning religion... Would be extremism, even tho it is the exact same thing reversed. Okay.

Either way, you could make an argument that politicians should be rational and as such spiritual beliefs that are more often than not inherently irrational should not be present. But then again, most politicians are pretty f*cked up and religion plays very little role in that, so I guess there is a bigger fish to fry.
On the other hand, I do have a problem with the common practice of working religious beliefs into law tho. If you have no religious beliefs, you can't do that. You need to come up with an actual argument.
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demo_Animation wrote:

I guess the biggest difference would be the lack of genocide...?


But genocide happens for instance Soviet Russia?


onemannation2012 wrote:


demo_Animation wrote:

I guess the biggest difference would be the lack of genocide...?


not true look at stalin and mau of china killed 120 million without religion


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Although originally used to describe the political spectrum, the "Horseshoe Theory" is appropriate for many phenomena, including this. Needless to say, I agree.
Posted 7/21/16

TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:


rinrakuu wrote:

In musings upon another thread.

I don't care if thats how it is where you are, or its possible where you are, I have news for you, Its simply not going to happen here in the US.

This is a theoretical question, but please, give us your feedback on this. How is a ban on religion for government officials, or anyone for that matter, different from religions forced conversion and crusading?

< My view is that the bashing of religion by secular humanists is extremist. In either direction, extremism is bad.

Enjoy.


You're basically right, accept people aren't saying that goverment officials shouldn't be religious - just unbiased.


Well I want to be sure it doesn't get that way, so the topic.
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rinrakuu wrote:


onemannation2012 wrote:

watch out i since a ban on this topic lol, well alot ppl have died for and by religion. but alot have died for money too sho ban it too.

ITs not but what if a religion like islam openly hates gay?


I'm not like you -- I'm not worried so much about bans. If the mods decide to close this thread, then so be it. That's their call to make. Having said that however, there is such a thing as free speech, and as my topic isn't breaking any rules I'm not worried. That of course does not mean the people that post on this thread won't cause it to be shut down. But I'll live.


i been ban way more than you dont assume i care that much lol
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Posted 7/21/16 , edited 7/21/16

rinrakuu wrote:

In musings upon another thread.

I don't care if thats how it is where you are, or its possible where you are, I have news for you, Its simply not going to happen here in the US.

This is a theoretical question, but please, give us your feedback on this. How is a ban on religion for government officials, or anyone for that matter, different from religions forced conversion and crusading?

< My view is that the bashing of religion by secular humanists is extremist. In either direction, extremism is bad.

Enjoy.


Post i made in the other thread:

So many believers have tried to force down their jesus on me, i simply cant stand it anymore. I have lost the respect i once had for it. But i still respect the good teachings and i have nothing against jesus. Its the dogma i have something against.
But as i said, those are utopian ideas, they wont work in this world unless they changed.
That includes religion. I have no problem that people believe in a higher power, in fact i encourage it, as it may make you feel purpose which is good.
But its the evil laws i have something against. KRF in Norway contains some truly soulless people.

Religious people ----> Can be evil.

Atheist people ----> Can be evil.

Other people with broken mindsets -----> Can be evil

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