Post Reply Hint to Manga Artists... Do you want better reviews?
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Posted 7/22/16
Dear Manga Artists:


Here is a little clue about my personal taste in Manga and Anime...


-- Many readers / viewers HATE wishy-washy main characters (MC) ...and that goes doubly so for viewers like me *raises hand*


If an MC exhibits any of the following behaviors beyond Episode 1, I either end up ranking the manga / anime much lower immediately, or drop it all together:

1) The MC is so indecisive and wishy-washy that they are spending more airtime trying to mentally get past their cowardice, embarrassment, weakness, or complex ... than actually doing or accomplishing anything else

2) The MC has a chronic case of crappy attitude... most of the time for no reason other than "life didn't go the way they wanted"
I do not enjoy watching an MC shitting on everyone and everything around them ...regardless of what their scenario is. Blowing a gasket and losing their temper or something once in a while is one thing... but if that's their personality... I lose all interest

3) The MC is so dense they miss catching even the most obvious clues...
Yes, we all know there are some incredibly dense people out there... but that doesn't make good MC material in my opinion... not even in comedy and parody. Make them a supporting character for those elements at best for heaven's sake

4) If the MC is so lame that it takes them a whole season just to get back to what most would consider "average" in anything... they are probably not MC material. I don't mind showing us how hard a character is "trying" ...in fact when it comes to weapons and fighting skills, showing those improvements over time is great!
I would much rather spend my time watching a "success" story, than watching failure after failure as the foundation of a story. It does not even matter to me if "..they come back in the end anyway!" or "..look at all the adversity they were able to overcome and grow from!" and please ... please... no more "..lost everything along the way, can't ever catch a break ...but saves the planet!"

/Rant off

The last 2-3 seasons has been riddled with this malignancy and since I needed to vent my frustration somewhere, I dropped it into this ...circular-file spot
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Posted 7/22/16 , edited 7/24/16
Yeah screw the manga artists for drawing these types of characters!
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Posted 7/22/16
Your complaint is sort of like addressing a letter to a brick wall. Even if Mangakas did read this forum I doubt they'd really care on western opinions
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Posted 7/22/16 , edited 7/26/16

Ecchi-Go wrote:
*** Manga Complaint In Anime Forum ***




And yes, the Kami is right: You need to watch more anime.
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Posted 7/22/16 , edited 7/24/16

Jagdtiger1 wrote:

Your complaint is sort of like addressing a letter to a brick wall. Even if Mangakas did read this forum I doubt they'd really care on western opinions


You're no doubt right that this complaint in this forum is unlikely to be read by any mangakas/ anime writers. You're probably also right about the general indifference of the manga/anime industry to Western opinions. That's just odd, considering its obviously become a major international business.

I mean if hypothetically let's say somewhere in Germany they were to create a mix of game and anime style entertainment, first for the local market but as it proved very popular later for world wide market, do you think the producers would still only be thinking solely in terms of what the German market prefered? Or would they, if there was a difference between the German market and the Asian market for example try to separate the 2 lines of production as soon as they could?

Considering the size of the Western market for anime and manga, the industries ought to care more about what hits and what misses, as some animes that aren't big hits in Japan are in the West. I belive the industry cheats itself of a lot of income by still mainly thinking of itself as a Japanese industry producing for a Japanese market instead of a Japanese based industry producing for an international market.
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Posted 7/22/16 , edited 7/24/16
Those characteristics you have mentioned are almost exclusive to LN main characters. Some VN MCs also fit the bill though.

I honestly have no clue why those aspects are so popular among LN writers. I mean even like TWGoK which was a manga that had an otaku as a main character pretty much had the main character be different from any type of LN MC.

It makes me kind of think that otakus who focus on romance or harem things are quite emotionally fragile.
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Posted 7/23/16 , edited 7/24/16

Cobaltseas wrote:


Jagdtiger1 wrote:

Your complaint is sort of like addressing a letter to a brick wall. Even if Mangakas did read this forum I doubt they'd really care on western opinions


You're no doubt right that this complaint in this forum is unlikely to be read by any mangakas/ anime writers. You're probably also right about the general indifference of the manga/anime industry to Western opinions. That's just odd, considering its obviously become a major international business.

I mean if hypothetically let's say somewhere in Germany they were to create a mix of game and anime style entertainment, first for the local market but as it proved very popular later for world wide market, do you think the producers would still only be thinking solely in terms of what the German market prefered? Or would they, if there was a difference between the German market and the Asian market for example try to separate the 2 lines of production as soon as they could?

Considering the size of the Western market for anime and manga, the industries ought to care more about what hits and what misses, as some animes that aren't big hits in Japan are in the West. I belive the industry cheats itself of a lot of income by still mainly thinking of itself as a Japanese industry producing for a Japanese market instead of a Japanese based industry producing for an international market.


You're 100% correct there, it really is a shame that Japan sometimes seems to give off the impression that they don't care about the rest of the world viewing their products.
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Posted 7/23/16

Ecchi-Go wrote:

Dear Manga Artists:


Here is a little clue about my personal taste in Manga and Anime...


-- Many readers / viewers HATE wishy-washy main characters (MC) ...and that goes doubly so for viewers like me *raises hand*


If an MC exhibits any of the following behaviors beyond Episode 1, I either end up ranking the manga / anime much lower immediately, or drop it all together:

1) The MC is so indecisive and wishy-washy that they are spending more airtime trying to mentally get past their cowardice, embarrassment, weakness, or complex ... than actually doing or accomplishing anything else

2) The MC has a chronic case of crappy attitude... most of the time for no reason other than "life didn't go the way they wanted"
I do not enjoy watching an MC shitting on everyone and everything around them ...regardless of what their scenario is. Blowing a gasket and losing their temper or something once in a while is one thing... but if that's their personality... I lose all interest

3) The MC is so dense they miss catching even the most obvious clues...
Yes, we all know there are some incredibly dense people out there... but that doesn't make good MC material in my opinion... not even in comedy and parody. Make them a supporting character for those elements at best for heaven's sake

4) If the MC is so lame that it takes them a whole season just to get back to what most would consider "average" in anything... they are probably not MC material. I don't mind showing us how hard a character is "trying" ...in fact when it comes to weapons and fighting skills, showing those improvements over time is great!
I would much rather spend my time watching a "success" story, than watching failure after failure as the foundation of a story. It does not even matter to me if "..they come back in the end anyway!" or "..look at all the adversity they were able to overcome and grow from!" and please ... please... no more "..lost everything along the way, can't ever catch a break ...but saves the planet!"

/Rant off

The last 2-3 seasons has been riddled with this malignancy and since I needed to vent my frustration somewhere, I dropped it into this ...circular-file spot


Oh my god, thank you for making this thread! I'm seriously considering making a manga after I graduate college, but my main character was going to have a crappy attitude most of the time. But thank you for making this so that I can change him around lol
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Posted 7/24/16 , edited 7/26/16

AnimeKami wrote:
you need to watch more anime.


I don't think for a second that my opinion on this is shared by everyone... and that's fine.

Thanks for the troll though...
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Posted 7/24/16

Grauger wrote:

Yeah screw the manga artists for drawing these types of characters!


I laughed a lot harder to your comment than I probably should have... good stuff
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Posted 7/24/16
What a revelation! I'm off to alert the mangaka!
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Posted 7/24/16 , edited 7/24/16
Why would professional entertainment creators from Japan care an inkling about a single random western fan's personal opinions again? And that's going off of the off chance they would even care about reading this forum in the slightest...See how much is wrong with this?

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