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Wikileaks Releases 20,000 DNC Emails: Media And ANTI-Bernie Collaboration, Fake Trump Ads, Paid Forum Posters.
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It's the left... Can't really say I'm surprised.
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DengekiFugu wrote:

These are the same tricks communists used.

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."~ Joe Stalin

It can't be said that today's democrats don't study history.


There was actually no fraud in any of the votes cast, so I'm not sure how your quote fits.

There was a combined effort of party insiders to push an agenda for Hillary to be favored, including hardlining the media to support her, and actively working to undermine his campaign, but there was no outright fraud. Most of this is pretty standard hardball politics and I'm sure both parties have done the exact same before.

What makes this unique is that Bernie supporters have said this was happening and the Hillary supporters said it wasn't. Now there is proof that it was happening all along.

This isn't a left or right thing, this is an Authoritarian thing. It's not fraud, it's politics.
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Posted 7/24/16
I want to move to Saturn.
I really dont want any more stupid politics and spying.
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Posted 7/24/16
So, I don't give a crap about these documents. All they do is prove what I already know to be true. Both side's suck and we deserve them because we allow them to suck.

I am a bit concerned that Putin and Russia are helping Trump to win so much. That's not a good thing.
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Cruz isn't even a servile puppy dog, he's just a mutt that got booted to the curb. Dumbass probably watched too much House of Cards and thought "hmm I can do that too." I hate giving Trump credit for anything but letting him speak let Cruz piss all over his own reputation, he didn't even have to lift a finger. Good riddance.
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You are really jumping to some conclusions here. There doesn't look to be anything in here that indicates anything negative about Ted Cruz. The Ted Cruz email regarding delegate death threats looked like a standard campaign fundraising email that could be signed up for by anyone. Eric (DNC) likely signed up for such emails to get more information about their republican opponents. The second blurb about Ted Cruz was just the DNC doing research and finding that Ted had hired some people from a firm that specializes in psychological warfare and speculating what he could be employing them for. The emails also don't seem to prove that Hilary's campaign were committing funding fraud. The Bernie camp was alleging that Hilary's campaign may have been committing funding fraud by money laundering funds from the Victory Fund into her campaign. That should be looked into, but there wasn't any proof that the allegations were correct. The other email was just the DNC talking about how to respond to it. The points they talked about in the potential response may be valid, or not, I don't know. Surprising myself, though, that I'm actually saying that something connected to Hilary that stinks may not actually be corruption and could be valid.
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Clinton blames Russia for leaked emails.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/24/clinton-campaign-blames-russia-wikileaks-sanders-dnc-emails

Nothing like taking responsibility for your own actions.
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Should it be always the lesser of two evils? If that's the case, I'll stick to the devil I know which is Trump. Hillary has too much baggage both known and unknown.

But no, I think it's time to go third party. I'd say it will either be Gary Johnson or Jill Stein.
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DengekiFugu wrote:

Clinton blames Russia for leaked emails.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/24/clinton-campaign-blames-russia-wikileaks-sanders-dnc-emails

Nothing like taking responsibility for your own actions.


What a shock, said nobody ever.
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#BernieMustDisavow

This also popped up:


DNC officials Brad Marshall, a chief financial officer, and Alan Reed, a compliance officer, also signed off on the use of Black Lives Matter organizer Deray Mckesson as a surrogate for Hillary Clinton.

Mckesson rose to prominence after being active in protests in Ferguson, MO and Baltimore, MD. He has yet to endorse a candidate and said protests are likely to happen at the upcoming Democratic Party convention.


Well shit, you mean to tell me the DNC had a pipeline to Black Lives Matter and the Media.





Posted 7/24/16

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Jarexx wrote:

Hilary has got to be the most corrupt candidate running for president ever. Trump may not be the most pleasant person, but at least he's honest.

I'll take an honest person over a dirty liar.


Trump? Honest? *tries not to laugh too hard*...here...happy reading...

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
https://theintercept.com/2016/03/04/donald-trumps-sworn-testimony-about-his-university-i-dont-know-the-people/
http://www.npr.org/2016/06/01/480279246/hard-sell-the-potential-political-consequences-of-the-trump-university-documents
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hundreds-donald-trumps-employees-have-sued-alleged-labor-infractions-2336166
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

Enjoy...and if you still think he's "honest" after reading...I have this slightly used Bridge up down in Brooklyn that I'm interested in letting go at a discount .


With all due Respect, those sources aren't very convincing to me.

1. Politifact was shown by George Mason University to be Bias against republicans, is owned by Hillary supporters and basically just focuses on negative comments.

My proof:http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans

https://www.quora.com/Politifact-claims-Sanders-lies-more-than-Clinton-How-can-this-possibly-be-true

(It's just not a reliable source for a test of honesty, when all they do is just point out the F Trump got in Math, while he got A"s in the other 8 classes).

2. The next three sources don't having anything to do with Trump as a person in particular and I will explain why. Trump's business model in those terms given based on the sources you gave refer to the franchise model for those who don't know. Basically, it's in Trumps name, but not actually managed by him.

In other words, would the CEO of McDonald's who works in New York be held liable for an illegal action done by a General Manger working in Dallas Texas? This is essentially a little misleading. Although the company as a WHOLE would have to be responsible, for certain, the CEO basically had nothing to do with it. You could get Trump on false advertising, which would make sense considering he is known for his Hyperbole approach to marketing. However, if everything is franchised from his small businesses, to his hotels, it would make perfect sense that Trump wouldn't know the people in charge of Trump University as his own business model would be the same for Trump University.

In other words, Trump has sometimes in the past, gotten bad people into his business, but they were only a small fraction of his entire business enterprise and were always fired. The franchise model is actually a really smart model, because the legal liability is safer. Trump has over thousands of investments and multiple properties, the majority of which are profitable.

http://www.internationalbusinessguide.org/trump-business-career/

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/010416/companies-donald-trump-owns.asp

Also, the judge for Trump University, does have a bias against Trump, which is enough to call for a change of venue, at least.

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/04/480714972/trump-presses-case-that-mexican-judge-curiel-is-biased-against-him

Who illegally opened up documents he wasn't supposed to.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/281893-judge-in-trump-university-case-reseals-some-documents

Who is a member of La Raza lawyer group, whom's end goal is to turn California into a "Hispanic" State.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/hispanicleaders.asp

We should be more impartial and we all have the right to look at all the evidence, and reevaluate our beliefs.
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ishe5555 wrote:

You are really jumping to some conclusions here. There doesn't look to be anything in here that indicates anything negative about Ted Cruz. The Ted Cruz email regarding delegate death threats looked like a standard campaign fundraising email that could be signed up for by anyone. Eric (DNC) likely signed up for such emails to get more information about their republican opponents. The second blurb about Ted Cruz was just the DNC doing research and finding that Ted had hired some people from a firm that specializes in psychological warfare and speculating what he could be employing them for. The emails also don't seem to prove that Hilary's campaign were committing funding fraud. The Bernie camp was alleging that Hilary's campaign may have been committing funding fraud by money laundering funds from the Victory Fund into her campaign. That should be looked into, but there wasn't any proof that the allegations were correct. The other email was just the DNC talking about how to respond to it. The points they talked about in the potential response may be valid, or not, I don't know. Surprising myself, though, that I'm actually saying that something connected to Hilary that stinks may not actually be corruption and could be valid.


I find this a little bit hard to see.

Cruz has multiple email accounts for different purposes. This email provided would be his email account that he uses with multiple party elites and people . Think about it this way. Would cruz be so careless to have his personal emails that he mails to his elites on his sender list to all his supporters? I wouldn't think so.

The fact that the DNC is part of his email list, considering the fact that the DNC Eric guy is a high ranking member, is on his list at least links Cruz to the DNC. The Email provided about the RI polling does show that there was rigging going on and the money laundering was basically having surrogate donors taking money from the DNC, to smaller donors for the Clinton Campaign. The fact that the majority of the television media was working with the DNC certainly raises concerns.
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DNC Chair won't preside over the convention thanks to these emails.
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DNC Chair won't preside over the convention thanks to these emails.


Well, there is something worth going on with these emails then. It's a bigger story than we thought if they are doing this at the DNC. Perhaps to ensure that the Sanders supporters won't be angry and unruly at the convention, causing a scene to weaken Hillary Clinton?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uT68riwrFI

70 minutes of Hillary lies. Her own words indict her.
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