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Metallica, not including that Lou Reed album ( seriously lol)

Kill em all, ride the lightning, master of puppets, Justice for all, Black album, Load, Reload, Garage Inc, S and M, St anger, Death magnetic.

YEah St anger might have a few questionable songs, but I still thinks its a great album. I'm dedicated as fuck to Metallica, and overall they are My #1 favorite band.

People fucking hate on saint anger, or the black album, or even Load and reload, fuck off. Overall Metallica has made amazing music, and each of their albums are unique, creative, heavy, and powerful.


If we are talking about Metallica, am I allowed to bring up napster?


This is all I have to say:

"THE TRIGGERED ARE COMING!!!! THE TRIGGERED ARE COMING!!! MAYDATE!!!!!!!!!! MAYDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE TRIGGERED ARE COMIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

But in all seriousness, I kind of understand their viewpoint in a way, but they pretty much were acting like total dicks about it, especially Ulrich. There's still this whole "anti-streaming" vibe coming out from the music industry in particular is really annoying. Yeah, I know the artists are being paid well at all, but shouldn't you be trying to "reform" these streaming platforms to make them do so instead of trying to fucking destroy them?!?! Besides, it's still the same old shit of the labels coming before the artists, which is what I think really is going on.

Oh yeah, and the Youtube copyright and community guidelines bullshit is NOT helping matters. LOL, "protecting our music" my ass.

#WTFU


The problem was the industry wasn't prepared for the internet and didn't have a successful business model for going into the 21st century. It took a computer company like apple to monopolize the idea (at the time) and they ended up profiting. Later, youtube and spotify lead to even less money being given to artists. I find that the only artists that are mainly anti-streaming are the ones that are already famous and established.

For instance, taylor swift, adele, etc. Two of the biggest and most successful artists in the world can casually just not release their music for streaming and not have it hurt them one bit. Meanwhile, any smaller act that does the same thing is screwed now. Few people want to buy cds and more people purchase singles instead of albums now. Some acts will few streaming as a positive thing because it is easier to get their sound out there and gain an audience. I bought a pavement album after first listening to it on spotify. It all seems really hypocritical and greedy on part of the mainstream artists and labes

"I'm sorry you are getting paid enough for making music tayor swift. You must be in a real financial bind after making 170 million dollars in one year. Man, times are tough huh?".



YES, I was listening to a podcast from a Youtube channel called "Velocities in Music" (who used to be an album review channel) that talked about this and brought these same bloody points. Many of the more established and well-known artists are against this because they won't be able to get that sweet sweet mula (slang term if you don't realize, haha) in their pockets. Many smaller artists would indeed use these to their advantage for more exposure, and then when they have enough credibility, as it were, they can start moving on to have people buy their stuff more (as I've heard through that same podcast). Of course, not all mainstream artists are anti-streaming, obviously. Taylor Swift and Adele are just two of the biggest examples, here. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with streaming itself; it's just that they don't budge in giving the artists fairer wages. These artists, I don't think, in theory don't mind streaming and/or downloading. It's all having to do with money, that's all. And I totally agree with that, in particular. However, I would also like to point out how these profits are mainly directed to, BIG SHOCKER, the record labels themselves. They've always been fucking over the artists for years now. During the 70s some artists weren't in complete creative control over their fucking music (see Rush during their 1975-76 period). It's technically the same old shit, except with less money for ALL the parties involved. Power- and money-hungry bastards, they are.

P.S. As for the quote, I'd reckon there'd be any business out there in general usually having this kind of mindset, in that once they've finally "made it" in the world, they become the enemies they were fighting against. In other words, the bigger a company gets, the more susceptible they are to fucking over other smaller companies. It sucks, but it's the truth.


holy crap, i love velocities in music. So cool to know that somebody else follows them too. I would love it if there was more music-related content on youtube where they talk about music and review classic albums from the past. however, most have to review new releases because that is what is current and "relevant". If you don't know about this channel, check out consequence of sound and their masterpiece reviews. They got a lot of great videos. Although i can often state that certain albums from a certain band they cover are not as good as another album. For instance, they review REM's automatic for the people as a 'masterpiece" when document or monster are so much better. However, the videos are really well made.

I like streaming because it exposes me to a ton of different bands and artists. Once i hear about a certain band and investigate their discography thoroughly and find an album that meets my standard, then i will be tempted to buy it, which is the highest form of praise that i can give to an album. You know something is valuable when you are willing to spend money on it. Through streaming, i found about a few of the following bands and bought one of their albums: the kooks, the brian jonestown massacre, the pixies, wire, gang of four, and countless others. I enjoy buying cds because it represents who i am as a music fan and it supports the artists who actually make good music.

What the record companies don't understand is this, if the music is good then people will want to pay for it. The guy from velocities in music even said he would give more money for a radiohead album because the band, in his opinion, is worth the investment. If you stop pumping out garbage, then people may want to invest in the music they are hearing. However, it is a business and businesses are concerned about making money. i'm thankful for streaming because it allows me to truly be a music fan and listen to whatever i want. i can't buy every album and there are a ton of bands i can't see in concert. Therefore, stuff like spotify is the next best thing.


I couldn't agree more. And yes, I do watch "Masterpiece Reviews"; it was actually my introduction to CoS, LOL. And yeah, I would like more music channels with more focus on the classic albums than the modern ones (which you can still talk about, of course, but they shouldn't be a primary focus per say, mainly because I don't follow modern music as much as others with few exception (Blackstar and A Moon Shaped Pool come to mind, even though I haven't listened to the latter JUST yet :D)). And that's funny, I mainly get into new artists through the CDs I borrow through the public library(ies). I haven't even used Spotify as much as I used to because of that (I still use Youtube from time to time, however). I usually check out Velocities in Music for albums I've listened to already along with artists that peeked my interest (helped me with getting into Nick Drake, for example).


I loved velocities in music's genre deep dive of grunge. I loved the whole grunge movement that came out of seattle and I loved how they covered the early influencers to the genre heavy-weights. That helped me get into big black and the pixies. Also, soundgarden is one of my favorite bands and I will adamantly say that they are severely underrated. It annoys me to see all the media attention and all these people walking around with nirvana t-shirts when soundgarden, in my opinion, wrote better songs and were better musicians. Also, chris cornell's voice is simply amazing and impossible to imitate unlike kurt cobain's. it annoyed me to see that they had three separate podcast's for radiohead. Yes, I know radiohead is one of their favorite bands, but they had a video on modest mouse which was only like 30 minutes long and modest mouse has released a lot of albums. in fact, they might have released more albums than radiohead although I'm not quite sure.

I'm really not even that into radiohead as you know. In terms of reviewing classic albums, I wish more people reviewed some lesser known classics. For instance, gang of four's 1979 album entertainment which was way ahead of its time. So, many different bands were influenced by that record. You can really hear it when you look at bands like franz Ferdinand and the arctic monkeys. They were a band that provided the basis for the red hot chili pepper's early sound. Also, albums like wire's pink flag and bad brains debut album would be cool to see as well. I like velocities in music for their musical discussions and album reviews sometimes as well. I also like the YouTuber ARTV as well, despite his musical taste not really being compatible with my own.

Also, listen to the yes song heart of the sunrise and the red hot chili peppers song around the world. Tell me if the guitar riff in around the world at the beginning sounds like the bass line in heart of the sunrise. It sure does to me at least.


I will duly note that, especially considering "Heart of the Sunrise" is one of Yes' greatest opuses, imho.


I recently listened to a compilation of some of yes's greatest material on an album called classic yes and I have to agree. I really have to admire yes with some of their songwriting. For one, chris squire will always be one of the greatest bassists of all time. His bass practically makes some songs for me. I literally cannot praise that guy enough for his talent. Steve Howe also gets criminally underlooked in the rock guitar pantheon. He has the most unconventional style of playing and one of the most unique. His style is one that is completely unique to him and couldn't be purely imitated. The keyboards are always fantastic and never overpower the other instruments and adds completely new layers and textures to the sound and jon Anderson's lyrics. Speaking of jon Anderson, his lyrics are fantastic and his vocals are some of the best in any genre. I didn't use to like yes. Although some songs will instantly connect with me and some won't, I still have to respect how great this band's material truly is. Right now, I'm binging on long distance runaround, starship trooper, and roundabout never loses its appeal especially due to Jojos bizarre adventure.



Yeah, I was introduced to this band, along with a lot of some of my othe r favorites, through Rock Band and Guitar Hero, which pretty much made me the music fan I am today. I was already familiar with "Owner of a Lonely Heart" before Rock Band 3, and I was in love with "Roundabout," mainly due to the musicianship and the difficulty of the instrumental tracks (especially the drums of course). And then, there was the DLC that was released and I loved ALL of songs on there. I then noticed that my parents had a Yes CD, which is probably the best single-CD compilation for the band (Highlights: The Best of Yes, it's called), and I came to love all of the songs on there as well. The kicker into my fanboy-esque nature around the band was The Ultimate Yes: 35th Anniversary Collection, which I always have a soft spot for. I already heard Classic Yes through the public library, mainly because why the fuck not, it's fucking Yes (which is why I also bought a copy of it over a month ago for $5 at a Walmart.) I also got the box set The Studio Albums: 1969-1987 from my parents on eBay, which I kind of fangasmed over when I got it. Yes have been my favorite band of all time for a few years now, if you can't tell. They're also how I became aware of JoJo in the first place (and yet I STILL haven't watched it for some stupid fucking reason). Sorry that I couldn't help myself with all of this gibberish I pulling out because of it. Again, they're my favorite band of all time, so... yeah.


Yeah, I like a lot of bands, but I don't know if any band can really be my favorite of all time consistently. We all go through those music obsessions at some point. There were some times when I thought queen was the greatest band in the entire world. other times the who, other times the rolling stones, other times led zeppelin, jimi Hendrix etc. However, my interest in them wanes and changes as I get older. I used to love groups like the sex pistols and the buzzcocks and hated the idea of post-punk. Now, I have around two classic post-punk albums in my cd collection wire's pink flag and gang of four's entertainment. Also, I think I might have dislike joy division, but now I consider them one of the most influential bands in history. I love joy division.

My dad is a real 70s music buff. He knows practically every band that released material during this time and will cite the decade as one of the best decades in music history. While I can agree with that, my fascination has grown more into the decades of the 90s and the 2000s. This is mainly due to the popularity of alternative rock and the indie rock revival. There was also a time when I cited the british invasion of the 1960s and one of the greatest periods of music ever. Now, I consider most of the music during that period fairly average. Sorry if it seems I'm rambling, but I pondering what you said about yes being your favorite band. I don't know if there is truly a group out there that causes me to buy their albums just because of their reputation of just based off their musical history. I love bands for certain albums or particular songs, but I don't think that their is a band out there that currently could ever be cited by myself as one of my favorite bands. if you had asked me a year ago, I might have said the strokes or soundgarden, but I rarely listen to either now. I considered giving superunknown a listen, but I decided against it because I already knew most of the songs so nothing could really surprise me.

I guess there is so much music out there vying for my attention that I no longer feel truly captivated by one particular band anymore. The first album I ever got: the strokes is this it? was literally like a perfect album for me and I could listen to every song over and over again. I even own a strokes t-shirt. I could even say at one point that I didn't even dislike any of their songs. However, that has proven false and a rarely feel the desire to listen to them as much. There are classic albums for me, but I don't know if there will ever be a favorite band for me. I guess it will just come and go in phases. Also, super sad that chris squire is no longer alive (bassist like no other). I wish he could have been around when those idiots in the rock hall of fame finally get their act together and put them in.


Indeed, it has been over a year now, and I'm still feeling it, even more so since I saw them back in 2014 in Washington, D.C. I find your comment on music obsessions to be very interesting, as I have a similar thing going on with that, too. Right now, the bands I listen to the most nowadays are ELO (for a bit), The Band (really dig their stuff, especially the early years), Kansas (CARRY ON MY WAYWORD SON!!!!!!), ABBA (what? I don't mind pop, and these guys are a fucking goldmine), and now I'm starting to get back in the world of David Bowie, too. These obsessions also occur more than once for some artists as well. I may say a band as being one of my favorites, but I don't really have the time to listen to them, if that makes any sense, with an exception here and there (King Crimson comes to mind almost immediately for me).

Also, I fixed the spelling errors in the quote above, just so you know. I'm kind of antsy (if that's even the word, and besides it's really an understatement) about the whole grammar thing.


I've been on an alternative rock/indie rock binge for a while now. I'm really into pavement right now and I'm also trying to explore some more of sonic youth's and husker du's material. I'm also exploring more of spoon, kings of leon, arcade fire, and the national. I'm also exploring the world of electronic music which includes the likes of daft punk, lcd soundsystem, and tv on the radio. I'm trying to get into some more progressive rock, but I need to be in the mood for it. I used to listen to a lot of punk and grunge, but I listen to it less and less now.

Since I know you love progressive rock, I'd seriously like to know if you have ever listened to frank zappa. Seriously, the dude is a musical genius and will always have one of the best backing bands in history. Also, he is a criminally underrated and underappreciated artist. There will never be a more progressive musician in history. He is also an amazing guitarist. If you haven't listened to his stuff, then I just have one question to ask: WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING?


I DON'T KNOW!!!!!

Anyway, I'm already aware of Zappa and I know several of his songs ("Peaches en Regalia," "Dancing Fool" and "I'm the Slime," etc.), and the thing is just... there's just so many albums he's done, I don't know if I could go through them all (not to mention the good-old "when will it ever happen?" shtick).


you don't need to listen to all of his albums, just pick a starting point. I haven't listened to every album that one band has ever done. the closest to it has been soundgarden for me. All I'm saying is that some day you should listen to an album or two. The only album of his that I have ever listened to by zappa has been apostrophe and overnite sensation. I've also heard that a lot of people love the album hot rats. However, I would recommend apostrophe and overnite sensation.

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electricdoomfire wrote:


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Humms wrote:

Metallica, not including that Lou Reed album ( seriously lol)

Kill em all, ride the lightning, master of puppets, Justice for all, Black album, Load, Reload, Garage Inc, S and M, St anger, Death magnetic.

YEah St anger might have a few questionable songs, but I still thinks its a great album. I'm dedicated as fuck to Metallica, and overall they are My #1 favorite band.

People fucking hate on saint anger, or the black album, or even Load and reload, fuck off. Overall Metallica has made amazing music, and each of their albums are unique, creative, heavy, and powerful.


If we are talking about Metallica, am I allowed to bring up napster?


This is all I have to say:

"THE TRIGGERED ARE COMING!!!! THE TRIGGERED ARE COMING!!! MAYDATE!!!!!!!!!! MAYDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE TRIGGERED ARE COMIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

But in all seriousness, I kind of understand their viewpoint in a way, but they pretty much were acting like total dicks about it, especially Ulrich. There's still this whole "anti-streaming" vibe coming out from the music industry in particular is really annoying. Yeah, I know the artists are being paid well at all, but shouldn't you be trying to "reform" these streaming platforms to make them do so instead of trying to fucking destroy them?!?! Besides, it's still the same old shit of the labels coming before the artists, which is what I think really is going on.

Oh yeah, and the Youtube copyright and community guidelines bullshit is NOT helping matters. LOL, "protecting our music" my ass.

#WTFU


The problem was the industry wasn't prepared for the internet and didn't have a successful business model for going into the 21st century. It took a computer company like apple to monopolize the idea (at the time) and they ended up profiting. Later, youtube and spotify lead to even less money being given to artists. I find that the only artists that are mainly anti-streaming are the ones that are already famous and established.

For instance, taylor swift, adele, etc. Two of the biggest and most successful artists in the world can casually just not release their music for streaming and not have it hurt them one bit. Meanwhile, any smaller act that does the same thing is screwed now. Few people want to buy cds and more people purchase singles instead of albums now. Some acts will few streaming as a positive thing because it is easier to get their sound out there and gain an audience. I bought a pavement album after first listening to it on spotify. It all seems really hypocritical and greedy on part of the mainstream artists and labes

"I'm sorry you are getting paid enough for making music tayor swift. You must be in a real financial bind after making 170 million dollars in one year. Man, times are tough huh?".



YES, I was listening to a podcast from a Youtube channel called "Velocities in Music" (who used to be an album review channel) that talked about this and brought these same bloody points. Many of the more established and well-known artists are against this because they won't be able to get that sweet sweet mula (slang term if you don't realize, haha) in their pockets. Many smaller artists would indeed use these to their advantage for more exposure, and then when they have enough credibility, as it were, they can start moving on to have people buy their stuff more (as I've heard through that same podcast). Of course, not all mainstream artists are anti-streaming, obviously. Taylor Swift and Adele are just two of the biggest examples, here. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with streaming itself; it's just that they don't budge in giving the artists fairer wages. These artists, I don't think, in theory don't mind streaming and/or downloading. It's all having to do with money, that's all. And I totally agree with that, in particular. However, I would also like to point out how these profits are mainly directed to, BIG SHOCKER, the record labels themselves. They've always been fucking over the artists for years now. During the 70s some artists weren't in complete creative control over their fucking music (see Rush during their 1975-76 period). It's technically the same old shit, except with less money for ALL the parties involved. Power- and money-hungry bastards, they are.

P.S. As for the quote, I'd reckon there'd be any business out there in general usually having this kind of mindset, in that once they've finally "made it" in the world, they become the enemies they were fighting against. In other words, the bigger a company gets, the more susceptible they are to fucking over other smaller companies. It sucks, but it's the truth.


holy crap, i love velocities in music. So cool to know that somebody else follows them too. I would love it if there was more music-related content on youtube where they talk about music and review classic albums from the past. however, most have to review new releases because that is what is current and "relevant". If you don't know about this channel, check out consequence of sound and their masterpiece reviews. They got a lot of great videos. Although i can often state that certain albums from a certain band they cover are not as good as another album. For instance, they review REM's automatic for the people as a 'masterpiece" when document or monster are so much better. However, the videos are really well made.

I like streaming because it exposes me to a ton of different bands and artists. Once i hear about a certain band and investigate their discography thoroughly and find an album that meets my standard, then i will be tempted to buy it, which is the highest form of praise that i can give to an album. You know something is valuable when you are willing to spend money on it. Through streaming, i found about a few of the following bands and bought one of their albums: the kooks, the brian jonestown massacre, the pixies, wire, gang of four, and countless others. I enjoy buying cds because it represents who i am as a music fan and it supports the artists who actually make good music.

What the record companies don't understand is this, if the music is good then people will want to pay for it. The guy from velocities in music even said he would give more money for a radiohead album because the band, in his opinion, is worth the investment. If you stop pumping out garbage, then people may want to invest in the music they are hearing. However, it is a business and businesses are concerned about making money. i'm thankful for streaming because it allows me to truly be a music fan and listen to whatever i want. i can't buy every album and there are a ton of bands i can't see in concert. Therefore, stuff like spotify is the next best thing.


I couldn't agree more. And yes, I do watch "Masterpiece Reviews"; it was actually my introduction to CoS, LOL. And yeah, I would like more music channels with more focus on the classic albums than the modern ones (which you can still talk about, of course, but they shouldn't be a primary focus per say, mainly because I don't follow modern music as much as others with few exception (Blackstar and A Moon Shaped Pool come to mind, even though I haven't listened to the latter JUST yet :D)). And that's funny, I mainly get into new artists through the CDs I borrow through the public library(ies). I haven't even used Spotify as much as I used to because of that (I still use Youtube from time to time, however). I usually check out Velocities in Music for albums I've listened to already along with artists that peeked my interest (helped me with getting into Nick Drake, for example).


I loved velocities in music's genre deep dive of grunge. I loved the whole grunge movement that came out of seattle and I loved how they covered the early influencers to the genre heavy-weights. That helped me get into big black and the pixies. Also, soundgarden is one of my favorite bands and I will adamantly say that they are severely underrated. It annoys me to see all the media attention and all these people walking around with nirvana t-shirts when soundgarden, in my opinion, wrote better songs and were better musicians. Also, chris cornell's voice is simply amazing and impossible to imitate unlike kurt cobain's. it annoyed me to see that they had three separate podcast's for radiohead. Yes, I know radiohead is one of their favorite bands, but they had a video on modest mouse which was only like 30 minutes long and modest mouse has released a lot of albums. in fact, they might have released more albums than radiohead although I'm not quite sure.

I'm really not even that into radiohead as you know. In terms of reviewing classic albums, I wish more people reviewed some lesser known classics. For instance, gang of four's 1979 album entertainment which was way ahead of its time. So, many different bands were influenced by that record. You can really hear it when you look at bands like franz Ferdinand and the arctic monkeys. They were a band that provided the basis for the red hot chili pepper's early sound. Also, albums like wire's pink flag and bad brains debut album would be cool to see as well. I like velocities in music for their musical discussions and album reviews sometimes as well. I also like the YouTuber ARTV as well, despite his musical taste not really being compatible with my own.

Also, listen to the yes song heart of the sunrise and the red hot chili peppers song around the world. Tell me if the guitar riff in around the world at the beginning sounds like the bass line in heart of the sunrise. It sure does to me at least.


I will duly note that, especially considering "Heart of the Sunrise" is one of Yes' greatest opuses, imho.


I recently listened to a compilation of some of yes's greatest material on an album called classic yes and I have to agree. I really have to admire yes with some of their songwriting. For one, chris squire will always be one of the greatest bassists of all time. His bass practically makes some songs for me. I literally cannot praise that guy enough for his talent. Steve Howe also gets criminally underlooked in the rock guitar pantheon. He has the most unconventional style of playing and one of the most unique. His style is one that is completely unique to him and couldn't be purely imitated. The keyboards are always fantastic and never overpower the other instruments and adds completely new layers and textures to the sound and jon Anderson's lyrics. Speaking of jon Anderson, his lyrics are fantastic and his vocals are some of the best in any genre. I didn't use to like yes. Although some songs will instantly connect with me and some won't, I still have to respect how great this band's material truly is. Right now, I'm binging on long distance runaround, starship trooper, and roundabout never loses its appeal especially due to Jojos bizarre adventure.



Yeah, I was introduced to this band, along with a lot of some of my othe r favorites, through Rock Band and Guitar Hero, which pretty much made me the music fan I am today. I was already familiar with "Owner of a Lonely Heart" before Rock Band 3, and I was in love with "Roundabout," mainly due to the musicianship and the difficulty of the instrumental tracks (especially the drums of course). And then, there was the DLC that was released and I loved ALL of songs on there. I then noticed that my parents had a Yes CD, which is probably the best single-CD compilation for the band (Highlights: The Best of Yes, it's called), and I came to love all of the songs on there as well. The kicker into my fanboy-esque nature around the band was The Ultimate Yes: 35th Anniversary Collection, which I always have a soft spot for. I already heard Classic Yes through the public library, mainly because why the fuck not, it's fucking Yes (which is why I also bought a copy of it over a month ago for $5 at a Walmart.) I also got the box set The Studio Albums: 1969-1987 from my parents on eBay, which I kind of fangasmed over when I got it. Yes have been my favorite band of all time for a few years now, if you can't tell. They're also how I became aware of JoJo in the first place (and yet I STILL haven't watched it for some stupid fucking reason). Sorry that I couldn't help myself with all of this gibberish I pulling out because of it. Again, they're my favorite band of all time, so... yeah.


Yeah, I like a lot of bands, but I don't know if any band can really be my favorite of all time consistently. We all go through those music obsessions at some point. There were some times when I thought queen was the greatest band in the entire world. other times the who, other times the rolling stones, other times led zeppelin, jimi Hendrix etc. However, my interest in them wanes and changes as I get older. I used to love groups like the sex pistols and the buzzcocks and hated the idea of post-punk. Now, I have around two classic post-punk albums in my cd collection wire's pink flag and gang of four's entertainment. Also, I think I might have dislike joy division, but now I consider them one of the most influential bands in history. I love joy division.

My dad is a real 70s music buff. He knows practically every band that released material during this time and will cite the decade as one of the best decades in music history. While I can agree with that, my fascination has grown more into the decades of the 90s and the 2000s. This is mainly due to the popularity of alternative rock and the indie rock revival. There was also a time when I cited the british invasion of the 1960s and one of the greatest periods of music ever. Now, I consider most of the music during that period fairly average. Sorry if it seems I'm rambling, but I pondering what you said about yes being your favorite band. I don't know if there is truly a group out there that causes me to buy their albums just because of their reputation of just based off their musical history. I love bands for certain albums or particular songs, but I don't think that their is a band out there that currently could ever be cited by myself as one of my favorite bands. if you had asked me a year ago, I might have said the strokes or soundgarden, but I rarely listen to either now. I considered giving superunknown a listen, but I decided against it because I already knew most of the songs so nothing could really surprise me.

I guess there is so much music out there vying for my attention that I no longer feel truly captivated by one particular band anymore. The first album I ever got: the strokes is this it? was literally like a perfect album for me and I could listen to every song over and over again. I even own a strokes t-shirt. I could even say at one point that I didn't even dislike any of their songs. However, that has proven false and a rarely feel the desire to listen to them as much. There are classic albums for me, but I don't know if there will ever be a favorite band for me. I guess it will just come and go in phases. Also, super sad that chris squire is no longer alive (bassist like no other). I wish he could have been around when those idiots in the rock hall of fame finally get their act together and put them in.


Indeed, it has been over a year now, and I'm still feeling it, even more so since I saw them back in 2014 in Washington, D.C. I find your comment on music obsessions to be very interesting, as I have a similar thing going on with that, too. Right now, the bands I listen to the most nowadays are ELO (for a bit), The Band (really dig their stuff, especially the early years), Kansas (CARRY ON MY WAYWORD SON!!!!!!), ABBA (what? I don't mind pop, and these guys are a fucking goldmine), and now I'm starting to get back in the world of David Bowie, too. These obsessions also occur more than once for some artists as well. I may say a band as being one of my favorites, but I don't really have the time to listen to them, if that makes any sense, with an exception here and there (King Crimson comes to mind almost immediately for me).

Also, I fixed the spelling errors in the quote above, just so you know. I'm kind of antsy (if that's even the word, and besides it's really an understatement) about the whole grammar thing.


I've been on an alternative rock/indie rock binge for a while now. I'm really into pavement right now and I'm also trying to explore some more of sonic youth's and husker du's material. I'm also exploring more of spoon, kings of leon, arcade fire, and the national. I'm also exploring the world of electronic music which includes the likes of daft punk, lcd soundsystem, and tv on the radio. I'm trying to get into some more progressive rock, but I need to be in the mood for it. I used to listen to a lot of punk and grunge, but I listen to it less and less now.

Since I know you love progressive rock, I'd seriously like to know if you have ever listened to frank zappa. Seriously, the dude is a musical genius and will always have one of the best backing bands in history. Also, he is a criminally underrated and underappreciated artist. There will never be a more progressive musician in history. He is also an amazing guitarist. If you haven't listened to his stuff, then I just have one question to ask: WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING?


I DON'T KNOW!!!!!

Anyway, I'm already aware of Zappa and I know several of his songs ("Peaches en Regalia," "Dancing Fool" and "I'm the Slime," etc.), and the thing is just... there's just so many albums he's done, I don't know if I could go through them all (not to mention the good-old "when will it ever happen?" shtick).


you don't need to listen to all of his albums, just pick a starting point. I haven't listened to every album that one band has ever done. the closest to it has been soundgarden for me. All I'm saying is that some day you should listen to an album or two. The only album of his that I have ever listened to by zappa has been apostrophe and overnite sensation. I've also heard that a lot of people love the album hot rats. However, I would recommend apostrophe and overnite sensation.



Ah yes, three of his most well-known, successful, and acclaimed albums of his career, to boot. There's also a lot of hype around Freak Out!, We're Only in It for the Money, and The Grand Wazoo, among others. I'll have to take a look into all of these.

And as for the "every album" comment, I understand with that notion. It's just that I feel the urge to hear all that he did throughout his career (at least all that I can grasp on, anyway). Of course I pretty much heard all of the albums for a couple of artists mainly because of short amount of albums they've released (the Sex Pistols and Joy Division come to mind). But in terms of long(er) discographies, I heard all from the Beatles, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, with Rush and Yes just close behind. It's just personal preference for me, anyway.
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Soundgarden is one of my favorite bands so I have to agree with you on that notion. the only albums that kind of lack in my opinion are their first album and their latest album. However, I note that their first album was them trying to find their sound, become better musicians, and improve their songwriting and their latest album was simply a differentiation from their other albums. I've heard criticism of it because it sounds similar to Chris Cornell's solo material which is understandable. However, I will have to listen to the album myself before I can give a more defined opinion of it.
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I like both their first album and the latest one. The first one was a little raw but there was still some decent song writing and composition. I don't think it was a bad album, by any means. Certainly not their best but it was still good. I've grown up with Soundgarden and I think their latest album was just them moving on from where they were back in the 90's and putting out something that speaks to who they are now (And I've kind of moved with it). The direction they took wasn't too far away from where they were but there was a huge gap between that and their previous work together. There are bound to be some slight changes. Plus, I quite like Chris Cornell's solo stuff (Well, apart from Scream, which I just pretend never happened) so having that influence isn't bad as far as I'm concerned. It's all subjective though.
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Metallica, not including that Lou Reed album ( seriously lol)

Kill em all, ride the lightning, master of puppets, Justice for all, Black album, Load, Reload, Garage Inc, S and M, St anger, Death magnetic.

YEah St anger might have a few questionable songs, but I still thinks its a great album. I'm dedicated as fuck to Metallica, and overall they are My #1 favorite band.

People fucking hate on saint anger, or the black album, or even Load and reload, fuck off. Overall Metallica has made amazing music, and each of their albums are unique, creative, heavy, and powerful.


If we are talking about Metallica, am I allowed to bring up napster?


This is all I have to say:

"THE TRIGGERED ARE COMING!!!! THE TRIGGERED ARE COMING!!! MAYDATE!!!!!!!!!! MAYDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE TRIGGERED ARE COMIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

But in all seriousness, I kind of understand their viewpoint in a way, but they pretty much were acting like total dicks about it, especially Ulrich. There's still this whole "anti-streaming" vibe coming out from the music industry in particular is really annoying. Yeah, I know the artists are being paid well at all, but shouldn't you be trying to "reform" these streaming platforms to make them do so instead of trying to fucking destroy them?!?! Besides, it's still the same old shit of the labels coming before the artists, which is what I think really is going on.

Oh yeah, and the Youtube copyright and community guidelines bullshit is NOT helping matters. LOL, "protecting our music" my ass.

#WTFU


The problem was the industry wasn't prepared for the internet and didn't have a successful business model for going into the 21st century. It took a computer company like apple to monopolize the idea (at the time) and they ended up profiting. Later, youtube and spotify lead to even less money being given to artists. I find that the only artists that are mainly anti-streaming are the ones that are already famous and established.

For instance, taylor swift, adele, etc. Two of the biggest and most successful artists in the world can casually just not release their music for streaming and not have it hurt them one bit. Meanwhile, any smaller act that does the same thing is screwed now. Few people want to buy cds and more people purchase singles instead of albums now. Some acts will few streaming as a positive thing because it is easier to get their sound out there and gain an audience. I bought a pavement album after first listening to it on spotify. It all seems really hypocritical and greedy on part of the mainstream artists and labes

"I'm sorry you are getting paid enough for making music tayor swift. You must be in a real financial bind after making 170 million dollars in one year. Man, times are tough huh?".



YES, I was listening to a podcast from a Youtube channel called "Velocities in Music" (who used to be an album review channel) that talked about this and brought these same bloody points. Many of the more established and well-known artists are against this because they won't be able to get that sweet sweet mula (slang term if you don't realize, haha) in their pockets. Many smaller artists would indeed use these to their advantage for more exposure, and then when they have enough credibility, as it were, they can start moving on to have people buy their stuff more (as I've heard through that same podcast). Of course, not all mainstream artists are anti-streaming, obviously. Taylor Swift and Adele are just two of the biggest examples, here. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with streaming itself; it's just that they don't budge in giving the artists fairer wages. These artists, I don't think, in theory don't mind streaming and/or downloading. It's all having to do with money, that's all. And I totally agree with that, in particular. However, I would also like to point out how these profits are mainly directed to, BIG SHOCKER, the record labels themselves. They've always been fucking over the artists for years now. During the 70s some artists weren't in complete creative control over their fucking music (see Rush during their 1975-76 period). It's technically the same old shit, except with less money for ALL the parties involved. Power- and money-hungry bastards, they are.

P.S. As for the quote, I'd reckon there'd be any business out there in general usually having this kind of mindset, in that once they've finally "made it" in the world, they become the enemies they were fighting against. In other words, the bigger a company gets, the more susceptible they are to fucking over other smaller companies. It sucks, but it's the truth.


holy crap, i love velocities in music. So cool to know that somebody else follows them too. I would love it if there was more music-related content on youtube where they talk about music and review classic albums from the past. however, most have to review new releases because that is what is current and "relevant". If you don't know about this channel, check out consequence of sound and their masterpiece reviews. They got a lot of great videos. Although i can often state that certain albums from a certain band they cover are not as good as another album. For instance, they review REM's automatic for the people as a 'masterpiece" when document or monster are so much better. However, the videos are really well made.

I like streaming because it exposes me to a ton of different bands and artists. Once i hear about a certain band and investigate their discography thoroughly and find an album that meets my standard, then i will be tempted to buy it, which is the highest form of praise that i can give to an album. You know something is valuable when you are willing to spend money on it. Through streaming, i found about a few of the following bands and bought one of their albums: the kooks, the brian jonestown massacre, the pixies, wire, gang of four, and countless others. I enjoy buying cds because it represents who i am as a music fan and it supports the artists who actually make good music.

What the record companies don't understand is this, if the music is good then people will want to pay for it. The guy from velocities in music even said he would give more money for a radiohead album because the band, in his opinion, is worth the investment. If you stop pumping out garbage, then people may want to invest in the music they are hearing. However, it is a business and businesses are concerned about making money. i'm thankful for streaming because it allows me to truly be a music fan and listen to whatever i want. i can't buy every album and there are a ton of bands i can't see in concert. Therefore, stuff like spotify is the next best thing.


I couldn't agree more. And yes, I do watch "Masterpiece Reviews"; it was actually my introduction to CoS, LOL. And yeah, I would like more music channels with more focus on the classic albums than the modern ones (which you can still talk about, of course, but they shouldn't be a primary focus per say, mainly because I don't follow modern music as much as others with few exception (Blackstar and A Moon Shaped Pool come to mind, even though I haven't listened to the latter JUST yet :D)). And that's funny, I mainly get into new artists through the CDs I borrow through the public library(ies). I haven't even used Spotify as much as I used to because of that (I still use Youtube from time to time, however). I usually check out Velocities in Music for albums I've listened to already along with artists that peeked my interest (helped me with getting into Nick Drake, for example).


I loved velocities in music's genre deep dive of grunge. I loved the whole grunge movement that came out of seattle and I loved how they covered the early influencers to the genre heavy-weights. That helped me get into big black and the pixies. Also, soundgarden is one of my favorite bands and I will adamantly say that they are severely underrated. It annoys me to see all the media attention and all these people walking around with nirvana t-shirts when soundgarden, in my opinion, wrote better songs and were better musicians. Also, chris cornell's voice is simply amazing and impossible to imitate unlike kurt cobain's. it annoyed me to see that they had three separate podcast's for radiohead. Yes, I know radiohead is one of their favorite bands, but they had a video on modest mouse which was only like 30 minutes long and modest mouse has released a lot of albums. in fact, they might have released more albums than radiohead although I'm not quite sure.

I'm really not even that into radiohead as you know. In terms of reviewing classic albums, I wish more people reviewed some lesser known classics. For instance, gang of four's 1979 album entertainment which was way ahead of its time. So, many different bands were influenced by that record. You can really hear it when you look at bands like franz Ferdinand and the arctic monkeys. They were a band that provided the basis for the red hot chili pepper's early sound. Also, albums like wire's pink flag and bad brains debut album would be cool to see as well. I like velocities in music for their musical discussions and album reviews sometimes as well. I also like the YouTuber ARTV as well, despite his musical taste not really being compatible with my own.

Also, listen to the yes song heart of the sunrise and the red hot chili peppers song around the world. Tell me if the guitar riff in around the world at the beginning sounds like the bass line in heart of the sunrise. It sure does to me at least.


I will duly note that, especially considering "Heart of the Sunrise" is one of Yes' greatest opuses, imho.


I recently listened to a compilation of some of yes's greatest material on an album called classic yes and I have to agree. I really have to admire yes with some of their songwriting. For one, chris squire will always be one of the greatest bassists of all time. His bass practically makes some songs for me. I literally cannot praise that guy enough for his talent. Steve Howe also gets criminally underlooked in the rock guitar pantheon. He has the most unconventional style of playing and one of the most unique. His style is one that is completely unique to him and couldn't be purely imitated. The keyboards are always fantastic and never overpower the other instruments and adds completely new layers and textures to the sound and jon Anderson's lyrics. Speaking of jon Anderson, his lyrics are fantastic and his vocals are some of the best in any genre. I didn't use to like yes. Although some songs will instantly connect with me and some won't, I still have to respect how great this band's material truly is. Right now, I'm binging on long distance runaround, starship trooper, and roundabout never loses its appeal especially due to Jojos bizarre adventure.



Yeah, I was introduced to this band, along with a lot of some of my othe r favorites, through Rock Band and Guitar Hero, which pretty much made me the music fan I am today. I was already familiar with "Owner of a Lonely Heart" before Rock Band 3, and I was in love with "Roundabout," mainly due to the musicianship and the difficulty of the instrumental tracks (especially the drums of course). And then, there was the DLC that was released and I loved ALL of songs on there. I then noticed that my parents had a Yes CD, which is probably the best single-CD compilation for the band (Highlights: The Best of Yes, it's called), and I came to love all of the songs on there as well. The kicker into my fanboy-esque nature around the band was The Ultimate Yes: 35th Anniversary Collection, which I always have a soft spot for. I already heard Classic Yes through the public library, mainly because why the fuck not, it's fucking Yes (which is why I also bought a copy of it over a month ago for $5 at a Walmart.) I also got the box set The Studio Albums: 1969-1987 from my parents on eBay, which I kind of fangasmed over when I got it. Yes have been my favorite band of all time for a few years now, if you can't tell. They're also how I became aware of JoJo in the first place (and yet I STILL haven't watched it for some stupid fucking reason). Sorry that I couldn't help myself with all of this gibberish I pulling out because of it. Again, they're my favorite band of all time, so... yeah.


Yeah, I like a lot of bands, but I don't know if any band can really be my favorite of all time consistently. We all go through those music obsessions at some point. There were some times when I thought queen was the greatest band in the entire world. other times the who, other times the rolling stones, other times led zeppelin, jimi Hendrix etc. However, my interest in them wanes and changes as I get older. I used to love groups like the sex pistols and the buzzcocks and hated the idea of post-punk. Now, I have around two classic post-punk albums in my cd collection wire's pink flag and gang of four's entertainment. Also, I think I might have dislike joy division, but now I consider them one of the most influential bands in history. I love joy division.

My dad is a real 70s music buff. He knows practically every band that released material during this time and will cite the decade as one of the best decades in music history. While I can agree with that, my fascination has grown more into the decades of the 90s and the 2000s. This is mainly due to the popularity of alternative rock and the indie rock revival. There was also a time when I cited the british invasion of the 1960s and one of the greatest periods of music ever. Now, I consider most of the music during that period fairly average. Sorry if it seems I'm rambling, but I pondering what you said about yes being your favorite band. I don't know if there is truly a group out there that causes me to buy their albums just because of their reputation of just based off their musical history. I love bands for certain albums or particular songs, but I don't think that their is a band out there that currently could ever be cited by myself as one of my favorite bands. if you had asked me a year ago, I might have said the strokes or soundgarden, but I rarely listen to either now. I considered giving superunknown a listen, but I decided against it because I already knew most of the songs so nothing could really surprise me.

I guess there is so much music out there vying for my attention that I no longer feel truly captivated by one particular band anymore. The first album I ever got: the strokes is this it? was literally like a perfect album for me and I could listen to every song over and over again. I even own a strokes t-shirt. I could even say at one point that I didn't even dislike any of their songs. However, that has proven false and a rarely feel the desire to listen to them as much. There are classic albums for me, but I don't know if there will ever be a favorite band for me. I guess it will just come and go in phases. Also, super sad that chris squire is no longer alive (bassist like no other). I wish he could have been around when those idiots in the rock hall of fame finally get their act together and put them in.


Indeed, it has been over a year now, and I'm still feeling it, even more so since I saw them back in 2014 in Washington, D.C. I find your comment on music obsessions to be very interesting, as I have a similar thing going on with that, too. Right now, the bands I listen to the most nowadays are ELO (for a bit), The Band (really dig their stuff, especially the early years), Kansas (CARRY ON MY WAYWORD SON!!!!!!), ABBA (what? I don't mind pop, and these guys are a fucking goldmine), and now I'm starting to get back in the world of David Bowie, too. These obsessions also occur more than once for some artists as well. I may say a band as being one of my favorites, but I don't really have the time to listen to them, if that makes any sense, with an exception here and there (King Crimson comes to mind almost immediately for me).

Also, I fixed the spelling errors in the quote above, just so you know. I'm kind of antsy (if that's even the word, and besides it's really an understatement) about the whole grammar thing.


I've been on an alternative rock/indie rock binge for a while now. I'm really into pavement right now and I'm also trying to explore some more of sonic youth's and husker du's material. I'm also exploring more of spoon, kings of leon, arcade fire, and the national. I'm also exploring the world of electronic music which includes the likes of daft punk, lcd soundsystem, and tv on the radio. I'm trying to get into some more progressive rock, but I need to be in the mood for it. I used to listen to a lot of punk and grunge, but I listen to it less and less now.

Since I know you love progressive rock, I'd seriously like to know if you have ever listened to frank zappa. Seriously, the dude is a musical genius and will always have one of the best backing bands in history. Also, he is a criminally underrated and underappreciated artist. There will never be a more progressive musician in history. He is also an amazing guitarist. If you haven't listened to his stuff, then I just have one question to ask: WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING?


I DON'T KNOW!!!!!

Anyway, I'm already aware of Zappa and I know several of his songs ("Peaches en Regalia," "Dancing Fool" and "I'm the Slime," etc.), and the thing is just... there's just so many albums he's done, I don't know if I could go through them all (not to mention the good-old "when will it ever happen?" shtick).


you don't need to listen to all of his albums, just pick a starting point. I haven't listened to every album that one band has ever done. the closest to it has been soundgarden for me. All I'm saying is that some day you should listen to an album or two. The only album of his that I have ever listened to by zappa has been apostrophe and overnite sensation. I've also heard that a lot of people love the album hot rats. However, I would recommend apostrophe and overnite sensation.



Ah yes, three of his most well-known, successful, and acclaimed albums of his career, to boot. There's also a lot of hype around Freak Out!, We're Only in It for the Money, and The Grand Wazoo, among others. I'll have to take a look into all of these.

And as for the "every album" comment, I understand with that notion. It's just that I feel the urge to hear all that he did throughout his career (at least all that I can grasp on, anyway). Of course I pretty much heard all of the albums for a couple of artists mainly because of short amount of albums they've released (the Sex Pistols and Joy Division come to mind). But in terms of long(er) discographies, I heard all from the Beatles, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, with Rush and Yes just close behind. It's just personal preference for me, anyway.


Man, listening to all of pink Floyd's material. That is crazy. I was actually thinking of listening to a little bit of the syd barrett years so I could compare it to the david gilmor years. When it comes to listening to a band's material, I generally look for the highlights of their career. I listen to a band's first album if they are a new band for me and I am just getting used to their sound. However, I generally look for the highlights and listen to those. It works out that way so that I listen to most of the best material. The only times I have picked out songs from every album a band has done is when I was trying to get into swans and I was trying to find an album that I liked. If I like a band enough, I will feel prompted to listen to their other material, but it isn't too often I feel like doing that. I'm picky about what I want to listen to. I don't want to listen to something that will bore me so I'm careful about what I listen to. Before I listen to an album, I like their to be a measure of good faith behind it. If I want to buy an album by a certain band, I look up what album people like the most and I give it a listen. If that album makes a good enough impression on me, I buy it.

the way I get exposed to most of an artists songs are through my Pandora stations. I like Pandora because it gives me both an avenue to listen to my favorite artists but a variety of artists that are similar to them. Therefore, it broadens my musical horizons and gives me a chance to listen across a broad spectrum of an artists career without having to go through every album individually. Perhaps it is just me, but I'm constanty being exposed to so much music at once that it makes it hard to try to go through a groups entire discography, especially when they are as expansive as the groups you mentioned.

The only band that I have listen to an entire discography of has been the sex pistols, soundgarden, and big star. I don't think I am a big enough fan of any one band that I listen to everything that they ever release.
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In my opinion, The Smashing Pumpkins have never released a bad album. Not a big fan of Monuments to an Elegy or Oceania, but they're not bad albums (and most people really like Oceania anyway). I probably prefer Adore and Machina and Machina II to Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. But that's just my (rather unusual) opinion.
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