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When I refer to immortality, I'm talking about the absence of death entirely. Say a world was created where death was even something that could be comprehended by its people, but pain and the ability to inflict harm still existed. In a way I'm envisioning Immortality like that of "Baccano", but maybe less limb tearing and bodies reforming. How would a Society that comprised of said people live their lives? Would criminals still commits crimes if they knew they could be beaten into a pulp and forced to live for eternity and suffer, much like Yakomaru from "Shin Sekai Yori?" Would there be a class divide among people? Could a government be established in such a world?

Your ideas would be welcome! I am very curious as to what other people think of this.
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I already have created such a world where i can explore such topics. Its way to complex to post here right now though.
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They'd have to limit the creation of life at some point. I also think they'd be bored to death!
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They'd have to limit the creation of life at some point. I also think they'd be bored to death!


We should do this already imo.

Also you can never be bored the universe is INFINITE!
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marlfox570 wrote:

When I refer to immortality, I'm talking about the absence of death entirely. Say a world was created where death was even something that could be comprehended by its people, but pain and the ability to inflict harm still existed. In a way I'm envisioning Immortality like that of "Baccano", but maybe less limb tearing and bodies reforming. How would a Society that comprised of said people live their lives? Would criminals still commits crimes if they knew they could be beaten into a pulp and forced to live for eternity and suffer, much like Yakomaru from "Shin Sekai Yori?" Would there be a class divide among people? Could a government be established in such a world?

Your ideas would be welcome! I am very curious as to what other people think of this.



Criminals would still commit crimes yup and the suffering for eternity would make them more likely to be scared.

There will always be class divides

Governments would still exist


Immortality is likely to happen in the next 40-200 years so we will find out or our children will
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Jophar_Vorin wrote:

I already have created such a world where i can explore such topics. Its way to complex to post here right now though.


What programming language did you use?
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...... Do you know how one sided this shit is?

This is such a terrible idea unless you are using it for a story, point and case.
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OneOfTheseDays wrote:

They'd have to limit the creation of life at some point. I also think they'd be bored to death!


We should do this already imo.

Also you can never be bored the universe is INFINITE!


But space travel is limited by our available resources.
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I imagine a world with layers upon layers of people and other creatures/plants. Smooshed, and rampant with disease, toxins, etc...
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marlfox570 wrote:

When I refer to immortality, I'm talking about the absence of death entirely. Say a world was created where death was even something that could be comprehended by its people, but pain and the ability to inflict harm still existed. In a way I'm envisioning Immortality like that of "Baccano", but maybe less limb tearing and bodies reforming. How would a Society that comprised of said people live their lives? Would criminals still commits crimes if they knew they could be beaten into a pulp and forced to live for eternity and suffer, much like Yakomaru from "Shin Sekai Yori?" Would there be a class divide among people? Could a government be established in such a world?

Your ideas would be welcome! I am very curious as to what other people think of this.



Criminals would still commit crimes yup and the suffering for eternity would make them more likely to be scared.

There will always be class divides

Governments would still exist


Immortality is likely to happen in the next 40-200 years so we will find out or our children will :P


Interesting subject about how long it'll take for us to be immortal which is very well possible. Seeing the difference from today to 50 years ago one can't even imagine the difference there will be from now to 50 years in the future. I think around 50 years we will be immortal, but you also have to remember that even if it doesn't happen in 50 years lets say 100 years we could still be alive then through other means of extending our lives just how we have done through current medication.

Out of curiosity how do you imagine humans becoming immortal or rather the first way we become immortal?

Tbh i think the easiest, best way and perhaps the only way would be to transfer our selves the content in our brains into a computer a very advanced computer rivaling our brains allowing us to live in cyber worlds, any worlds we desire or even living in robots in our current world. Although i'd much rather live in a computer world seeing how it can be anything you want it to be.

But of course this is just me thinking my dreams with really no scientific evidence other than speculating the rate of advancements in our technology, which could very well be wrong.
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OneOfTheseDays wrote:

They'd have to limit the creation of life at some point. I also think they'd be bored to death!


Who know's in a world history where people were always immortal what the situation would be.

But hypothetically if immortality was mass achieved in our world 50 year or 200 years from now or whenever, "limit the creation of life" would be immediately crucial to not allowing earth to becoming an over populated toxic mess. Forget space travel, our basic resources, cleanliness and clean water would be rapidly used up. 7.3 billion world population today, problem is already everyday birthrates double the death count. So two babies born for every person dropping dead everyday.

Another interesting thought is the estimated human population that has ever existed is 108 billion total. Puts 1 in 15 people who have ever lived are alive today because of rapid population growth in the last 100 years but what would be the population of a world that no one ever died.......0__o 115 billion immortals?

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Very dangerous. The only way that progress can occur is for the older generation to step down (and/or die) and let the next generation take over. With immortality, we would not only suffer from overpopulation, but we will be forever ruled by the same groups of oligarchs who amassed money and influence, and since they won't die will never lose power, because let's be honest about this; immortality will be a very exclusive commodity.
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Immortality has its pros and cons. Of course, there has to limit, but, who gets to decide who gets to live and who gets to die? If immortality was in fact real, then, the entire population on the planet will be overflowed with people and then there would have to be a decrease in having children. It would be pretty interesting to see how immortality would work through societal levels.
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We would run out of resources pretty quickly, although I suppose that we wouldn't need sustenance.

I've wondered about the end of Yu Yu Hakusho. It's nice and all, but Yusuke should outlive Keiko by centuries, if not millenia. It's kind of awkward in that sense.
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hemicuda2 wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


marlfox570 wrote:

When I refer to immortality, I'm talking about the absence of death entirely. Say a world was created where death was even something that could be comprehended by its people, but pain and the ability to inflict harm still existed. In a way I'm envisioning Immortality like that of "Baccano", but maybe less limb tearing and bodies reforming. How would a Society that comprised of said people live their lives? Would criminals still commits crimes if they knew they could be beaten into a pulp and forced to live for eternity and suffer, much like Yakomaru from "Shin Sekai Yori?" Would there be a class divide among people? Could a government be established in such a world?

Your ideas would be welcome! I am very curious as to what other people think of this.



Criminals would still commit crimes yup and the suffering for eternity would make them more likely to be scared.

There will always be class divides

Governments would still exist


Immortality is likely to happen in the next 40-200 years so we will find out or our children will :P


Interesting subject about how long it'll take for us to be immortal which is very well possible. Seeing the difference from today to 50 years ago one can't even imagine the difference there will be from now to 50 years in the future. I think around 50 years we will be immortal, but you also have to remember that even if it doesn't happen in 50 years lets say 100 years we could still be alive then through other means of extending our lives just how we have done through current medication.

Out of curiosity how do you imagine humans becoming immortal or rather the first way we become immortal?

Tbh i think the easiest, best way and perhaps the only way would be to transfer our selves the content in our brains into a computer a very advanced computer rivaling our brains allowing us to live in cyber worlds, any worlds we desire or even living in robots in our current world. Although i'd much rather live in a computer world seeing how it can be anything you want it to be.

But of course this is just me thinking my dreams with really no scientific evidence other than speculating the rate of advancements in our technology, which could very well be wrong.



"
Out of curiosity how do you imagine humans becoming immortal or rather the first way we become immortal? "

Biological life extension / regeneration of brain tissue mixed with augmentations and moving the brain to a sturdier vessel

Transfering is fine in idea but there is the whole is that still you thing
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