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Posted 7/24/16

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They'd have to limit the creation of life at some point. I also think they'd be bored to death!


We should do this already imo.

Also you can never be bored the universe is INFINITE!


But space travel is limited by our available resources.



We have tons of planets around us we can use and we make new things from resources we already have everyday

Did you know in a lab they mixed gold and titanium to make a metal 4x as strong as titanium in the last week.

Humans will become more resourceful and produce stuff better
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Immortality has its pros and cons. Of course, there has to limit, but, who gets to decide who gets to live and who gets to die? If immortality was in fact real, then, the entire population on the planet will be overflowed with people and then there would have to be a decrease in having children. It would be pretty interesting to see how immortality would work through societal levels.



" be a decrease in having children."

YES PLZ
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...... Do you know how one sided this shit is?

This is such a terrible idea unless you are using it for a story, point and case.


Not really its the best outcome for the species.

If we are to stay primitive and mortal as we are now we may aswell just kill ourselves off
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Very dangerous. The only way that progress can occur is for the older generation to step down (and/or die) and let the next generation take over. With immortality, we would not only suffer from overpopulation, but we will be forever ruled by the same groups of oligarchs who amassed money and influence, and since they won't die will never lose power, because let's be honest about this; immortality will be a very exclusive commodity.


Not true progress can occur without the older generation stepping down or a new generation coming.
We wouldn't suffer from overpopulation if we stopped breeding and had firm laws in place.

Immortality being exclusive would be good it would start a war inside humanity till its free for all.
Many would die but progression wise Immortality would help our race.

It makes me sad other people aren't like me and plan to dedicate their life towards chasing immortality in their own way.

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Posted 7/24/16

Ryulightorb wrote:


Humms wrote:

...... Do you know how one sided this shit is?

This is such a terrible idea unless you are using it for a story, point and case.


Not really its the best outcome for the species.

If we are to stay primitive and mortal as we are now we may aswell just kill ourselves off :P


We will run out of space before we can even consider that outcome. I like to think of a few having this ability, not the billions.

Being mortal is the best part about being human, It is so we can assure that the next generation will become even more advanced. We need death just as much as life.
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Posted 7/24/16

Humms wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Humms wrote:

...... Do you know how one sided this shit is?

This is such a terrible idea unless you are using it for a story, point and case.


Not really its the best outcome for the species.

If we are to stay primitive and mortal as we are now we may aswell just kill ourselves off :P


We will run out of space before we can even consider that outcome. I like to think of a few having this ability, not the billions.

Being mortal is the best part about being human, It is so we can assure that the next generation will become even more advanced. We need death just as much as life.


Then we will all die.

Being mortal is the worst part of being human i'm dedicating my life to help so that the next generation doesn't need to die.

Death is not needed we can advance without creating a new generation.

My life goal is and always will be going fowards in my own way to make sure immortality is possible in my lifetime or the lifetime of those after me.

A few wouldn't have this ability not without a war that would wipe out the human race.



If we cannot advance past mortality are race should just vanish as it doesn't have what it takes.
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Posted 7/24/16

Ryulightorb wrote:


Humms wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Humms wrote:

...... Do you know how one sided this shit is?

This is such a terrible idea unless you are using it for a story, point and case.


Not really its the best outcome for the species.

If we are to stay primitive and mortal as we are now we may aswell just kill ourselves off :P


We will run out of space before we can even consider that outcome. I like to think of a few having this ability, not the billions.

Being mortal is the best part about being human, It is so we can assure that the next generation will become even more advanced. We need death just as much as life.


Then we will all die.

Being mortal is the worst part of being human i'm dedicating my life to help so that the next generation doesn't need to die.

Death is not needed we can advance without creating a new generation.

My life goal is and always will be going fowards in my own way to make sure immortality is possible in my lifetime or the lifetime of those after me.

A few wouldn't have this ability not without a war that would wipe out the human race.



If we cannot advance past mortality are race should just vanish as it doesn't have what it takes.



If you wish to stand the test of time, You'll have to catch up
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Posted 7/24/16

Humms wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Humms wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Humms wrote:

...... Do you know how one sided this shit is?

This is such a terrible idea unless you are using it for a story, point and case.


Not really its the best outcome for the species.

If we are to stay primitive and mortal as we are now we may aswell just kill ourselves off :P


We will run out of space before we can even consider that outcome. I like to think of a few having this ability, not the billions.

Being mortal is the best part about being human, It is so we can assure that the next generation will become even more advanced. We need death just as much as life.


Then we will all die.

Being mortal is the worst part of being human i'm dedicating my life to help so that the next generation doesn't need to die.

Death is not needed we can advance without creating a new generation.

My life goal is and always will be going fowards in my own way to make sure immortality is possible in my lifetime or the lifetime of those after me.

A few wouldn't have this ability not without a war that would wipe out the human race.



If we cannot advance past mortality are race should just vanish as it doesn't have what it takes.



If you wish to stand the test of time, You'll have to catch up


I'll do just fine even if i don't those who come after me will.

Humans are weak and fragile but have the potential to become so much more.

If i don't live to see us transcend our limits via self evolution i will leave someone to witness it for me
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If we were immortal, we could replace death row with throwing a bunch of people into space and letting them drift. If they come back and say "ay yo dawg we found aliens and shit fam," they can be welcomed back.
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jtjumper wrote:


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I already have created such a world where i can explore such topics. Its way to complex to post here right now though.


What programming language did you use?


Oh no, its not programmed. Its written, like a book. Kind of.

If i am going to create it, it will be Java.
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Immortality without health and wealth would suck.
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Ryulightorb wrote:


Humms wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Humms wrote:

...... Do you know how one sided this shit is?

This is such a terrible idea unless you are using it for a story, point and case.


Not really its the best outcome for the species.

If we are to stay primitive and mortal as we are now we may aswell just kill ourselves off :P


We will run out of space before we can even consider that outcome. I like to think of a few having this ability, not the billions.

Being mortal is the best part about being human, It is so we can assure that the next generation will become even more advanced. We need death just as much as life.


Then we will all die.

Being mortal is the worst part of being human i'm dedicating my life to help so that the next generation doesn't need to die.

Death is not needed we can advance without creating a new generation.

My life goal is and always will be going fowards in my own way to make sure immortality is possible in my lifetime or the lifetime of those after me.

A few wouldn't have this ability not without a war that would wipe out the human race.



If we cannot advance past mortality are race should just vanish as it doesn't have what it takes.


So you're saying that if the species can't overcome mortality we have no right to exist?
I never met someone who's aversion to death ran as deep as yours.
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It's incredible how insane these pie in the sky threads get with just a few people. Sure, if we were all immortal and undying, we could get things done, but would we want to? Going by how all the young people are today, we would just lay down and screw off for a few centuries until someone who was hot to trot started kicking people. Then they'd roll over and go back to doing nothing of any worth except eating, drinking, and poisoning their bodies in every way they can.
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Humanity clearly has the potential and desire for immortality

The most obvious ways are either finding ways to maintain and repair our bodies as they are (finding ways to prevent aging or fixing the problems it causes) or replace the body with something which can be repaired and maintained so that it will potentially last forever though the obvious problem is that you still need to maintain the brain somehow or turn yourself into a machine/program though if that's even possible or desirable is unknown

However I don't think humanity will ever find a way to achieve "true" immortality and become unable to die even if they would want to for whatever reason


When and if humanity achieve immortality (especially if it also removes the need for sustenance) could lead to a golden age of science, art and such given that the whole surviving and getting by in life would theoretically be much less of an issue (it could also go the other way if population keep increasing and thus constantly increasing the need for resources)

Though it could also lead to stagnation because of people being set in their ways and not wanting or being willing to accept change and those people will never die or go away....
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Posted 7/25/16

Bowie-Sensei wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Humms wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Humms wrote:

...... Do you know how one sided this shit is?

This is such a terrible idea unless you are using it for a story, point and case.


Not really its the best outcome for the species.

If we are to stay primitive and mortal as we are now we may aswell just kill ourselves off :P


We will run out of space before we can even consider that outcome. I like to think of a few having this ability, not the billions.

Being mortal is the best part about being human, It is so we can assure that the next generation will become even more advanced. We need death just as much as life.


Then we will all die.

Being mortal is the worst part of being human i'm dedicating my life to help so that the next generation doesn't need to die.

Death is not needed we can advance without creating a new generation.

My life goal is and always will be going fowards in my own way to make sure immortality is possible in my lifetime or the lifetime of those after me.

A few wouldn't have this ability not without a war that would wipe out the human race.



If we cannot advance past mortality are race should just vanish as it doesn't have what it takes.


So you're saying that if the species can't overcome mortality we have no right to exist?
I never met someone who's aversion to death ran as deep as yours.


We don't have an inherent right or not to exist we just do however mortality is something we need to overcome to evolve.

I fear death I hate it to my core ever since I was a small child I would ponder questions of the universe and think about death for hours on end.
I accept it as natural however I do think it's a trial to overcome.

My aversion to death is mostly due to my phobia of death and my life goal of seeing humans transcend their mortality and evolve.

We will exist either way but we will die out a species that is like ours will never make it outside of our galaxy not whilst we are mortal and when the sun burns up well we will go extinct.

I preferably hope for us to expand our species outwards to many different planets.

Small steps but despair lies at the end if you don't take hope
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