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Posted 7/24/16 , edited 7/25/16
This may be a really stupid question but the " 18 and above" make sense? Shouldn't it be "18 or above"?

I was reading manga here : [Site that shall not be named]
and it threw me off? Which is right? Am i going insane?
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Posted 7/24/16
18 or above
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Posted 7/24/16
18 or above
"and" means both, and makes zero sense, considering that people can't have more than one age at any given time.
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Posted 7/24/16
Either one says you have to be 18 or above so who cares. It's not like anyone reads those warnings anyways.
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Posted 7/24/16 , edited 7/25/16
That's what i thought!
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What they probably mean is those who are 18 and those who are above 18 but it just gets shortened to that.

It's bad grammar sure but the intent is clear enough.
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Posted 7/24/16
"18 and above" is inclusive to anyone older than 17. As in 18 and those above it are included.

"18 or above" means either 18 year olds or those above 18 can be included.

Tl;dr it doesn't matter.
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Posted 7/24/16

namealreadytaken wrote:

18 or above
"and" means both, and makes zero sense, considering that people can't have more than one age at any given time.


but you more commonly see 18 and above....in movies to books etc etc

which makes sense since ages 18 and above can read it.

Both make sense
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Posted 7/24/16
I'd have to go with xdarkasux, as they are equivalent, and simply two ways to say it.

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Posted 7/24/16 , edited 7/24/16
If we take the proposition to mean "acceptable ages for reading," then both describe the same range of numbers. Either one works. If we take it to mean "you must be this age to read" then the 'and' implies you must hold different ages, and only the 'or' works. Alternatively, if there are two readers, then you might say that the 'and' requires more than one person read the manga -- an 18-year-old and an older-than-18-year-old.

Given the context, I'd say it's pretty fucking clear what they're saying.
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theYchromosome wrote:

If we take the proposition to mean "acceptable ages for reading," then both describe the same range of numbers. Either one works. If we take it to mean "you must be this age to read" then the 'and' implies you must hold different ages, and only the 'or' works. Alternatively, if there are two readers, then you might say that the 'and' requires more than one person read the manga -- an 18-year-old and an older-than-18-year-old.

Given the context, I'd say it's pretty fucking clear what they're saying.

It's language. The "technical way" does not always mean the "correct way".

In this case, you can use the "and" and "or" truth gates to arrive at your conclusion, and it is technically correct, but since language is a tool where a mere inflection can change the meaning of a sentence that has the same words in it, you cannot say that either way is the wrong way.

They are both merely different ways of reading the same sentence. Either literally or as an interpretation that some words have been left out (which is fairly common in language).

I do agree, though, that this is the most trivial thing to be bothered over.
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Posted 7/25/16 , edited 7/25/16

oneouts123 wrote:

This may be a really stupid question but the " 18 and above" make sense? Shouldn't it be "18 or above"?


They both make sense.

The content is deemed appropriate for people who are 18 AND people who are above 18.

If you are 18 OR you are above 18 you are allowed to access this content.

BTW, I've edited a couple of your posts in this thread. It's against CR's Site Rules to name or link to sites that provide access to content those sites don't have permission for.
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Posted 7/29/16
I like 18 AND above. Better grammar.
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Posted 7/29/16
What why? So confused
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In other words, you thought you were on to something but it was nothing. As mentioned before, it's not like anyone reads them.
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