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Flash over the last few years has seen a great deal of issues with being buggy, vulnerable to hacking and malware, and in general seems to be far inferior to html5 after learning about the latter. Having just been nearly attacked on my old desktop when trying to update to the latest flash player version, I am uninstalling it from there as I can't use Crunchyroll on it anyway due to the nag video about adblockers causing it to repeatedly freeze up. I don't know if this is due to the old machine using an older OS or not, but in any case, flash seems to be far less preferable for video playback. Were it not for the fact that Crunchyroll doesn't use HTML5, I would have uninstalled flash from both my old dinosaur of a desktop and my windows 10 laptop ages ago. I AM taking it off my desktop just because the few sites I use don't demand it on them anyway.

So when is Crunchyroll going to offer the option for HTML5? From all I keep hearing, most websites are either already on HTML5, or are moving to it now due to how antiquated and vulnerable flash has become.

Any thoughts here? Or even better, a timetable for when Crunchy will allow people to use it as a player option so they can get away from the stress and hassle flash can cause?
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Never.
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Which then begs the question of 'why?' since html5 is quickly becoming the more preferred method of video playing.
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WarwolfPrime wrote:
Which then begs the question of 'why?' since html5 is quickly becoming the more preferred method of video playing.


Because fy, that's why. No, but seriously though. I don't see this coming anytime soon despite ppl wishing for this for years(?)/months by now.
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If you are using windows 10, there is an app available, but if you would really like an in-browser HTML5 player, I have made a chrome extension that provides just that, found here.
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If you are using windows 10, there is an app available, but if you would really like an in-browser HTML5 player, I have made a chrome extension that provides just that, found here.




As it so happens, I flat out refuse to use anything from the Microsoft store as I have no interest in getting locked into a Microsoft account. (I do use 10 to use Crunchyroll, these days. I literally have no choice as the nag video freezes up my XP machine and the flash player update site appears to be either hacked or there's a bug in it, or something and it attacks XP every chance it gets while 10 can and did update just fine.


I also don't use chrome, but I might try it again just for the chance to play anime on here in html5, assuming you're saying that your extension works on crunchy (Any chance of a Firefox counterpart?). I still wish Crunchyroll would just do the smart thing and make HTML5 an option for video playback though, since by all accounts it's got less hassle and stress inducement than flash does.
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Bump. Any news on this? I'm seriously thinking of cancelling my Crunchyroll subscription 'till they implement HTML5 video on the website.
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WarwolfPrime wrote:

I also don't use chrome, but I might try it again just for the chance to play anime on here in html5, assuming you're saying that your extension works on crunchy (Any chance of a Firefox counterpart?).

Beardfist recently mentioned there is a Firefox extension now, but it requires a version of Firefox (50 or greater, as I recall) that is later than the "general release" version (currently 49.0.1).

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beardfist wrote:

If you are using windows 10, there is an app available, but if you would really like an in-browser HTML5 player, I have made a chrome extension that provides just that, found here.


Thank you so much!!! I can finally watch stuff in 1080p flawlessly. You've literally made my CR Premium worth it!
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Update:

Guys, I might have found out why Crunchyroll still didn't go for HTML5:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2b26ou/im_kun_gao_the_cofounder_and_ceo_of_crunchyroll/
According to the co-founder, there's licensed content on Crunchyroll that doesn't work with HTML5.... which is to say, the reason is Flash based DRM.

Which is kinda lame because if there are working plugins that basically rips content off and shoves it into an HTML5 player, it's already defeated.

But now, the next versions of Chrome will be blocking Flash by default, and I fully support the idea:
https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/12/03/175227/chrome-55-now-blocks-flash-uses-html5-by-default

This is the way to go I guess. If Crunchyroll can do nothing to alter those meaningless contractual obligations, and I imagine there are several situations similar to this, you just block Flash in the origin and wait for a number of people to start complaining.

I'm still unable to watch Crunchyroll on my desktop PC because of this. I refuse to install 3rd party plugins (they can be just as insecure as using Flash), and I refuse even more to install something as insecure as Flash just for Crunchyroll. No service I use on the web uses Flash anymore. It's dead, and so is content security schemes that depend on it to work.

If content producers wants to know why some people still pirate their content to this day even with a service as complete as Crunchyroll available, there's the answer. DRM that locks users into insecure platforms that are basically backdoors for malware are unnacceptable, period.

All major streaming platforms today work with HTML5. Some like Netflix just recently announced that they are going to let part of their content to be stored for offline viewing. I know how bureaucratic and hard headed some japanese companies can be, but it's past time for them to get out from under their rocks, keep up with times, and do something about it.
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I'm still unable to watch Crunchyroll on my desktop PC because of this. I refuse to install 3rd party plugins (they can be just as insecure as using Flash), and I refuse even more to install something as insecure as Flash just for Crunchyroll. No service I use on the web uses Flash anymore. It's dead, and so is content security schemes that depend on it to work.


If you are on Windows 10, you can use our Win 10 UWP app instead.
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Update:

Guys, I might have found out why Crunchyroll still didn't go for HTML5:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2b26ou/im_kun_gao_the_cofounder_and_ceo_of_crunchyroll/
According to the co-founder, there's licensed content on Crunchyroll that doesn't work with HTML5.... which is to say, the reason is Flash based DRM.

Take note that AMA is now 2 years old, and the handling of DRM for HTML5 has progressed since then.

While it isn't surprising a company with the resources of Netflix moved on to HTML5 some time ago (while still using DRM), a company as small as Funimation also has. While we'll have to wait for their new site to see HTML5 for all platforms, they already use an HTML5 player if you visit using most mobile browsers, or as I recall, Safari on a recent version of Mac OS.



I'm still unable to watch Crunchyroll on my desktop PC because of this. I refuse to install 3rd party plugins (they can be just as insecure as using Flash), and I refuse even more to install something as insecure as Flash just for Crunchyroll. No service I use on the web uses Flash anymore. It's dead, and so is content security schemes that depend on it to work.

Apparently you don't view Hulu via a computer, then.

They are my go to service whenever someone plays the "Flash is dead" card. They are the number 3 streaming service in the US, but to some people's surprise, they still use Flash for their web player. Until a service that size moves on, I can hardly blame a much smaller service like CR for not doing so.

I'm also curious what percentage of viewing of CR is done on apps now instead of via the web browser. If CR is seeing a steady increase in the former and a steady decrease in the latter, they may be hoping (perhaps naively) that web viewing will become irrelevant before Flash does.


Also, if your system is running Chrome or you have Windows 8 or later, you have Flash on your system. Chrome of course has it built in, as does Internet Explorer in Windows 8.0 and 8.1, and Edge in Windows 10.


All major streaming platforms today work with HTML5. Some like Netflix just recently announced that they are going to let part of their content to be stored for offline viewing. I know how bureaucratic and hard headed some japanese companies can be, but it's past time for them to get out from under their rocks, keep up with times, and do something about it.

You should note, however, that some Netflix titles have that option while others don't. Amazon beat Netflix to the offline viewing option by a fair amount, but a lot of people still don't seem to be aware they offer that.

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Didn't even think of that alternative... probably because I don't use any uwp apps at all. xD
But hey, it's a more legit choice I guess. Will check it out, thanks!
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I don't use Hulu! Wow, didn't know they were still on Flash too... that's kinda crappy. :P

This is also why I don't complain a whole lot more... I imagine most people watch CR via apps, leaving the web platform kinda abandoned. It'd be interesting to know the percentages though, definitely!

Oh, I know that Flash is embedded into Chrome and other browsers... I uninstalled it directly over a year ago, and cleaned it up from my system. Huge bother, but it pays for the added security.

On Netflix, that's why I said "part of their content"... more honestly, a small part of Netflix owned content. And Netflix definitely wasn't the first... man, I'd go for Amazon, but I'm not in the US. Don't even know if Prime is an option here, but it generally isn't worth...

In any case, guess I'll just try the Windows 10 UWP app shinryou recommended. I just didn't want to use anything unofficial, so if it works, it works.
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And Netflix definitely wasn't the first... man, I'd go for Amazon, but I'm not in the US. Don't even know if Prime is an option here, but it generally isn't worth...

You didn't mention which country you are in, but aside from the US, Amazon Video is available in Japan and the UK, and apparently also in Germany, Austria, and possibly India.

Their service in the UK is a better position for anime fans this season, as they are simulcasting 3 anime series that we in the US have only been told we'll eventually get (probably after the seasons are over).

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