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Posted 7/28/17 , edited 7/28/17

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Not putting your users at risk after Adobe stops patching Flash?
Performance improvements?


The switch-over to an HTML5 player will be much faster than that. We are already using it for everyone over at VRV.co. Crunchyroll is a different beast though, so some changes need to be made to make it work over here as well.

Nobody is at risk using Flash on the Crunchyroll website. We are obviously not distributing malware.
The Flash plugin is blocked by default in recent versions of all widely used browsers. This means that it will not activate outside of where the user allows it to be activated. If one goes to a shady porn site, allows the Flash player, and get infected with a malware payload that is a different story. Same obviously for people who are not updating their browsers in first place.
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Posted 7/29/17 , edited 2/23/18
I have a very serious problem with this statement 'Nobody is at risk using Flash on the Crunchyroll website. We are obviously not distributing malware.'

#1. What you are or are not doing doesn't matter in terms of security. You are one part of a much larger equation. To try and use a blanket statement like that shows that you're banking on noone here being able to call you on it.

#2. Even if you are 'secure' (which, given that very little of the CR website is even using SSL, I would squash that argument too), that does not mean that you are 100% inexploitable. Flash can be injected. MITM can occur. Etc.

Rather than giving us a bunch of bull, why not give us a *real* answer of when you plan on implementing a long term solution, what type of timeline you're looking at, etc.

Given that Adobe themselves have been trying to kill off Flash for the better part of 5 years, I don't see how you guys can sit there and justify the choice to use Flash in the first place. Even assuming you try the 'Html5 doesnt have good DRM support', that one is easily diffused as well, since HTML5 has had solid DRM support for ~3 years. I'd wager it's more likely about 'resources' and crunchyroll either not having the staff and time to properly make the migration, or not wanting to have to invest in it until the last minute. Both being bad choices.

The argument that I also have seen about 'We need to write our own player because we use special features for subtitles' is rather weak. How many of us have had issues because you tried doing things your own way instead of using stable solutions that have been used by much larger companies for years. Hell, subtitles can be overlayed very easily and independently, the time sync is the only difficult part.
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Posted 7/30/17 , edited 7/30/17
My 2 cents: It's impossible/unsustainable to support the CR on so many different platforms (PS4, Xbox, Android, iOS, Windows+Phone, etc etc).

Much easier to HTML 5 and call it a day.
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Posted 8/27/17 , edited 8/27/17
No new info in a month, meanwhile Hidive has been using an html5 player for two months already, so the problem is not "we are not a big streamer like amazon/hulu, otherwise we would already have html5 video".
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Posted 9/18/17 , edited 1/7/18
HTML5 is the way to go CR...

I've wanted to uninstall flash for good so many times but I haven't due to CR's being the only web page I frequently consume which needs such an outdated technology to play their contents.

It's time to invest in the future of your business guys.

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Posted 9/18/17 , edited 12/21/17

lbritofe wrote:
HTML5 is the way to go CR...

I've wanted to uninstall flash for good so many times but I haven't due to CR's being the only web page I frequently consume which needs such an outdated technology to play their contents.

They have been working on a that in beta, but it isn't ready for general release yet. In the meantime, if you have Win-10, have you tried the UWP app? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/crunchyroll/9wzdncrfj15t No flash needed...
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Posted 10/24/17 , edited 10/24/17

asharka wrote:


lbritofe wrote:
HTML5 is the way to go CR...

I've wanted to uninstall flash for good so many times but I haven't due to CR's being the only web page I frequently consume which needs such an outdated technology to play their contents.

They have been working on a that in beta, but it isn't ready for general release yet. In the meantime, if you have Win-10, have you tried the UWP app? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/crunchyroll/9wzdncrfj15t No flash needed...


thanks to you i put my cancel of my membership on hold. nevertheless it's ridiculous that there is no html5 and those pretextual arguments why flash should be ok for us made me really laugh.
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Posted 12/20/17 , edited 12/21/17
Any update on html5?
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Posted 12/20/17 , edited 12/21/17
Would love to see this happen, the sooner the better.
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Posted 12/31/17 , edited 12/31/17
So... all major browsers have even dropped or blocked by default flash content. You need now to force it or opt-in in each site to make flash work. Other streaming services like Netflix already switched to HTML5 player for obvious reasons (is more convenient for the users, it works better, etc.). And yet, Crunchyroll is still using Flash.

You guys seriously need to modernize your player, because if industry has shown something, is that if you attach yourself to outdated technology, you fail.
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Posted 1/6/18 , edited 1/12/18
Using the Window 10 app would be a great solution... if it worked... It has been down for Latin America since September and no one has been able (or honest enough) to give users and answer of what is going on or when it will be fixed... (BTW, what about mac or linux users?)

We really want to support legal anime, but CR is making it harder everyday for some of us. Maybe they need to be reminded US is not the only market they have.
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Posted 1/9/18 , edited 1/12/18

teivos wrote:


asharka wrote:
They have been working on a that in beta, but it isn't ready for general release yet. In the meantime, if you have Win-10, have you tried the UWP app? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/crunchyroll/9wzdncrfj15t No flash needed...


thanks to you i put my cancel of my membership on hold. nevertheless it's ridiculous that there is no html5 and those pretextual arguments why flash should be ok for us made me really laugh.

Actually I had my account upgraded to premium plus (took more than 1.5 months for crunchy to get that), to just support the beta.
The beta worked perfectly. A whole day.
Then it broke, but that's ok, because it's beta.
Then they removed the beta player from beta.
So I have given up my premium+ to nothing and switched to hidive, which I took in premium+ format (HD).
I had one issue with their html 5 interface on my steam machine, and they immediately responded...

Crunchy: I will go back to premium plus (which has no added benefits to me compared to premium, except that I can test beta projects), once you continue the work on html 5.

For now hidive takes the html 5 player seriously, and netflix takes anime seriously. But in the end I'd rather also support crunchy (which I have done for years).

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Posted 1/12/18 , edited 1/12/18
Technically if you distribute a Mono-based app (i.e. .Net) it can run on all platforms.

However, the application would need to be delivered in a manner other than Windows store for non-Windows users.

As a note, Flash Player no longer works at all on Linux Firefox. The old plugin interface it uses has been removed due to massive security concerns. This leaves only one browser for Linux users.

You may want to add Linux Firefox to your beta platform list. Currently, Google Webvine is available already for all major browsers. However, the other major solution, Adobe Primetime is not.

Currently, Adobe Primetime only works on Chrome under Linux, or any Chromium-based browser that has had the NACL Flash plugin installed from Google Chrome.



p.s. I'm not sure if Adobe's license allows for it to be used for other purposes, but they have a pure javascript-based decoder for Internet Enabled TVs. This requires some other javascript media extensions, but most browsers now have those extensions.

Really, I just recommend using Google Webvine because honestly, Adobe's company policies are really bad these days, right up there with Microsoft, especially on the whole "it's not a bug, it's a feature" thing, and downright lying to their customers in extended propaganda campaigns to get them to avoid switching to other platforms.

Just look at their history of smearing HTML5. They are on the wrong side of history there.
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Posted 1/19/18 , edited 1/20/18
I'd like to watch and make use of CR from my SmartTV, but it's impossible since it doesn't support Flash and that's why the only way is to watch anime on pirated websites. This is also one of the reasons for not paying membership. I previously realized that the HTML5 player was in beta mode, but suddenly I didn't see the option anymore. I hope that Netflix in the future will gain more ground with anime and no longer depend on CR to see' Legally'. (Excuse me for my bad English xD).
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Posted 2/13/18 , edited 2/13/18
Still waiting on that HTML5 player...
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