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Posted 8/3/16 , edited 8/3/16
Maybe I've been giving people the wrong advice.

Instead of "finding your passion" and aspiring to do what you like to do, maybe it's better to find out what you're good at and start from there.

https://medium.com/personal-growth/youre-not-meant-to-do-what-you-love-you-re-meant-to-do-what-you-re-good-at-4e8e6b8e929d

After reading the article, I joked with one of my coworkers that "The good-for-nothings aren't meant to do anything. That's what welfare is for!"

Jokes aside, and the societally compliant tones of the article itself aside (I'm sure it wouldn't sit well with certain people), I think it does have a point. Once you know what sorts of things you're good at, then it's something a bit more concrete than a more nebulous "like". It's a more solid if less exciting starting point. I think it could actually be easier to come to like what you're good at rather than getting good at what you like. (One of the things the anime/manga Haikyu shows is that you'd like something more if you get good at it)

When I took the AP Computer Science exam back in high school I didn't pass. Did I take that as a hint? NooOOOooo, I had to waste two years busting my head over a software major before switching over to electrical engineering. All I knew was that I "liked computers and eletronics stuff" but didn't really think about exactly which things I'm good at or not. Then again, maybe it was a good learning experience and not a complete waste of time.

Just one more thing for people to consider when asking about their futures.
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Posted 8/3/16 , edited 8/3/16
You mean like this?

The Meaning of Love - S1E4 - Cyanide & Happiness Show
https://youtu.be/2m4a-bl4alo


or not, or just do your own thing.
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Depends. Some people can do it if they will it enough.

But it all depends on what you want to do.

If i was good at playing piano at school, i really hated it. Would it still be valid? I dont think so.

I always dreamed of learning how to program. I loved the idea to create my own software and games, but as all people say its just a dream im to stupid to do it.

But then i thought, why not i atleast need to try? Then i used my whole summer vacation on reading up on it. I tried and failed i tried and failed. But i suceeded in the end. Now i can program small programs and games. Nothing fancy(And it will not sell), but it still is something, i find it to be a joy.

But of course, someone might not be able to pull the switch. But first he needs to find something hes good at, thats easier said than done.
Im not against the article, but im not for it either. No black and white exists, only gray.

But i do dislike the title 'Meant to'. We are not meant to do anything.

We were meant to live in caves. We were not meant to study the laws of nature and create computer.
We werent meant to do anything.

EDIT: When i read this text it lost all credibility. Not logical. It had a good point, but its written by stupid.

What is already within you. Your gifts are not random, they are a blueprint for your destiny. There’s more to your life than just what you think will make you happy. Your real talents may not stroke your ego as much, but if you apply to them the kind of higher thinking that allows you to find the purpose within them, you will be able to get up every single day and work diligently. Not because you are stoking your senses and stroking your ego, but because you are using what you have.
You are doing what you came here to do.


"Everything is work. Everything is work. Everything is work" False. It is not.

Skills are learned, you are not born with them. Sure you may be born with an inactive talent for art, but still you wont be instantly perfect. You will need to learn. So why not try to learn the thing you love? Of course if its not something like: "I want to be an astronaut" Or "I want to be a quantum physicist".

This seems like one of those christian preachers. Everything has a purpose. NO. Pls.

Destiny does not exist. Time does not exist. Clocks do.



Its all just babble. Easy to say, but harder to implement.¨

And i wont try to like something i dont like Its stupid!
Posted 8/3/16
I'm not particularly good at anything so I'll probably just kill myself
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Velvet_Crowe wrote:

I'm not particularly good at anything so I'll probably just kill myself


See? This is what this article supports. People can mistake it for "You should kill yourself, as you dont have a natural talent".
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Velvet_Crowe wrote:
I'm not particularly good at anything
Not even being yourself?
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Freddy96NO wrote:


Velvet_Crowe wrote:
I'm not particularly good at anything
Not even being yourself?


What if she does not understand what "herself" is?
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What about the 10,000 hour rule? Once you pass that threshold, you supposedly reach a superhuman-like level when it comes to everything from skill to pattern recognition in your domain.

I sure as hell don't know anyone who is "bad" at languages for example if they actually put in enough time.
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Generally, the point of an individual's life is to find happiness. If you don't enjoy doing something, doing it as a job probably isn't a great idea. That said, if you aspire to be a famous musician and you suck at making music, either devote your life to putting in the work or maybe find more things that you enjoy.
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I've always known this but I'm still not particularly good at ANYTHING
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stars201 wrote:

I've always known this but I'm still not particularly good at ANYTHING


Im good at cleaning toilets! Must be my destiny.

Are aspirations bad? Thats what the article sung to me.
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i feel people should try and do what thy enjoy but if its something their not good enough at too succeed with shouldn't go blaming others for their failures
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Posted 8/3/16
I can drink 120oz+ of energy drinks/coffee and not die. I guess that would be something I'm good at.
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The "follow your dreams" philosophy assumes that normal people ought to have some dream or passion (implied to be somewhat grand) that they ought to strive towards, and that doing so opens doors, leads to happiness, and gives one purpose in life. The base assumption is false, and the implication that success will follow is also false. How does one even come up with a dream or passion? Probably at random through environmental influence. Further, many people don't have the opportunity to follow their dreams, and this philosophy cruelly dangles that in front of them as the way to find meaning in life.

The "do what you're good at" philosophy assumes that the normal person ought to possess some special innate skill at some activity or job, and that working at and improving that skill will lead to a successful - or at least content - life. The base assumption is false: humans can do many things, and while some of us might be naturally better at certain things than others, we don't automatically know what those are. Telling people they have to find "the thing that they're good at" is depressing if they don't feel like theyre all that good at anything.

Humans are hard-wired by genes and grown by their environments. It's easiest for us to take a job in the thing we've been practicing the most. Most jobs don't require absurd prowess in one particular skill that is useless everywhere else, so as long as you're not so myopically trained that you can't function except in one particular job, you probably have multiple options.

If I had to give an alternative to these two philosophies, I'd say take what opportunities you can. The state of society is such that we have to work to sustain ourselves, and where we end up depends on our options and which of them we choose. I happen to have ended up a theoretical physicist doing quantum mechanics; this is because I had the opportunity to learn a bunch of math, actually wanted to do so, and ended up going to physics grad school. If I don't end up with a permanent position as a theoretical physicist, I'll do something sciency for some industry. That's how it works.

Finally, both "follow your dreams" and "do what you're good at" assume that life is about work. Say you don't achieve your "dream," and you end up doing something you're not the best at. That might be depressing, but it doesn't make you a failure.

I do prefer "do what you're good at" to "follow your dreams," though, as "follow your dreams" implies to people that they can be special and amazing and succeed at long shots if only they put in the effort, and life often doesn't end up that way.
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And as it turns out, all you really need to do to learn quantum mechanics is practice a lot and take classes. Quantum mechanics is not all that hard.
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