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A few years back there was a big push by the American Humanist Association to get the Good without God campaign up and running to rid America of religion. It was complete with ads and websites.


SP: It’s a linguistic phenomenon. Atheism does [evoke] a very primitive emotional reaction in the minds of many people. Many people simply equate it with immorality, which is why I think they tell pollsters that atheists are people they distrust the most. Often when there is a disliked word–a word with a negative connotation–people find a euphemism, that’s why what used to [be called] garbage then became sanitation and now its environmental services. And likewise atheism is constantly reaching for the untainted euphemism. Secularist, freethinker, humanist, bright and so on. I think each one is going to get infected in turn until the societal attitude changes.

Atheism is merely absence of belief. Humanism will succeed when no one notices that it’s there, when it’s just common decency in Western civilization. In a way, really, humanism should just be. Western civilization since the Enlightenment doesn’t depend on the belief in God. All of philosophy is humanism, all of science, all of law–we should claim that. We should claim Shakespeare. And modern biology and the modern Western university and democracy–that’s humanism.


It associated with works from Neil Degrasse Tyson, Richard Dawkins and the above Steven Pinker. It dealt with boycotting anything religious and even focused on target social minorities to create a movement. These were set up to promote their views to this day.


http://www.dontsaythepledge.com
http://www.kidswithoutgod.com
http://thehumanist.com/news/hnn/steven-pinker-on-textbooks-culture-wars-and-the-a-word-2
http://americanhumanist.org/news/details/2016-05-humanist-group-launches-initiatives-for-racial-justi
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Nah its wrong to do campagins like that. Let people believe what they want.

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I don't see anything wrong with this to be honest. Let people campaign. Is it any different than door to door Jehovah's witnesses?
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I don't see anything wrong with this to be honest. Let people campaign. Is it any different than door to door Jehovah's witnesses?


Well i do agree with this one.

But i believe in the "Do to people as you would like them do to you".
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I don't see anything wrong with this to be honest. Let people campaign. Is it any different than door to door Jehovah's witnesses?


Well i do agree with this one.

But i believe in the "Do to people as you would like them do to you".




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WHAT. That one was funny. 11/10 PV!
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I don't see anything wrong with this to be honest. Let people campaign. Is it any different than door to door Jehovah's witnesses?


There are religions that DON'T knock on your door and intrude on your personal space.
Atheists are people who think such sects don't exist, and that all sects, like the Mormons, are Out to Get Them by knocking on their door and smiling nonsense. And so they put more locks on their doors.

In terms of fostering better relations with my fellow man, I don't consider that Good. Most of the New Testament, as I recall, involved not being paranoid or judgmental of other people, and going out and sharing a few moments with them as equals anyway--
Even if, like Romans or tax collectors, you might've otherwise happened to believe they were "responsible" for all of today's headline problems around you and needed to be sent away for their own good.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I don't see anything wrong with this to be honest. Let people campaign. Is it any different than door to door Jehovah's witnesses?


There are religions that DON'T knock on your door and intrude on your personal space.
Atheists are people who think such sects don't exist, and that all sects, like the Mormons, are Out to Get Them by knocking on their door and smiling nonsense. And so they put more locks on their doors.

In terms of fostering better relations with my fellow man, I don't consider that Good. Most of the New Testament, as I recall, involved not being paranoid or judgmental of other people, and going out and sharing a few moments with them as equals anyway--
Even if, like Romans or tax collectors, you might've otherwise happened to believe they were "responsible" for all of today's headline problems around you and needed to be sent away for their own good.


Aren't you generalizing atheists a tiny bit?
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Ejanss wrote:

There are religions that DON'T knock on your door and intrude on your personal space.
Atheists are people who think such sects don't exist, and that all sects, like the Mormons, are Out to Get Them by knocking on their door and smiling nonsense. And so they put more locks on their doors.

In terms of fostering better relations with my fellow man, I don't consider that Good. Most of the New Testament, as I recall, involved not being paranoid or judgmental of other people, and going out and sharing a few moments with them as equals anyway--
Even if, like Romans or tax collectors, you might've otherwise happened to believe they were "responsible" for all of today's headline problems around you and needed to be sent away for their own good.


Aren't you generalizing atheists a tiny bit?



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It associated with works from Neil Degrasse Tyson, Richard Dawkins and the above Steven Pinker. It dealt with boycotting anything religious and even focused on target social minorities to create a movement. These were set up to promote their views to this day.


No.

(Sooner or later, it WILL involve paranoia, and trying to "cure" the "problem" with whatever final solutions they deem necessary. Because their complaint is against Man, not God, and you cannot long be friends with the object of your free-floating blame.)


MysticGon wrote: In a way, really, humanism should just be. Western civilization since the Enlightenment doesn’t depend on the belief in God. All of philosophy is humanism, all of science, all of law–we should claim that. We should claim Shakespeare.


(Um, why? He was a loyal Catholic, even in the "underground" of dangerously Protestant Elizabethan times.)
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MysticGon wrote:
It associated with works from Neil Degrasse Tyson, Richard Dawkins and the above Steven Pinker. It dealt with boycotting anything religious and even focused on target social minorities to create a movement. These were set up to promote their views to this day.


No.

(Sooner or later, it WILL involve paranoia, and trying to "cure" the "problem" with whatever final solutions they deem necessary. Because their complaint is against Man, not God, and you cannot long be friends with the object of your free-floating blame.)


Nope not all atheists are like that.
Thats the same as saying all christians will try to force god down your throat.
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No.

(Sooner or later, it WILL involve paranoia, and trying to "cure" the "problem" with whatever final solutions they deem necessary. Because their complaint is against Man, not God, and you cannot long be friends with the object of your free-floating blame.)


Soon paranoia ridden on your side if you ask me. I don't see what's wrong with peddling your beliefs unless you do so forcefully. If anything you're just being cynical of human's lacking civility. In any case, is'n t this a bit of logic jump to a slippery slope?
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WHAT. That one was funny. 11/10 PV!


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Ejanss wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I don't see anything wrong with this to be honest. Let people campaign. Is it any different than door to door Jehovah's witnesses?


There are religions that DON'T knock on your door and intrude on your personal space.
Atheists are people who think such sects don't exist, and that all sects, like the Mormons, are Out to Get Them by knocking on their door and smiling nonsense. And so they put more locks on their doors.

In terms of fostering better relations with my fellow man, I don't consider that Good. Most of the New Testament, as I recall, involved not being paranoid or judgmental of other people, and going out and sharing a few moments with them as equals anyway--
Even if, like Romans or tax collectors, you might've otherwise happened to believe they were "responsible" for all of today's headline problems around you and needed to be sent away for their own good.


Aren't you generalizing atheists a tiny bit?





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Ejanss wrote:




MysticGon wrote:
It associated with works from Neil Degrasse Tyson, Richard Dawkins and the above Steven Pinker. It dealt with boycotting anything religious and even focused on target social minorities to create a movement. These were set up to promote their views to this day.


No.

(Sooner or later, it WILL involve paranoia, and trying to "cure" the "problem" with whatever final solutions they deem necessary. Because their complaint is against Man, not God, and you cannot long be friends with the object of your free-floating blame.)


Nope not all atheists are like that.
Thats the same as saying all christians will try to force god down your throat.


Humility is the best way to foster discussion and understanding.



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