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Perhaps, and there may be an argument to be made that Japanese military buildup may be necessary even if one favours maintaining the purpose of the armed forces as solely for defence given recent Chinese ambitions to increase their territorial claims. Still, Abe takes things to the next level. He has a long history of denying or downplaying Japanese war crimes that Akihito acknowledges and regrets, and bear in mind that Akihito is the son of Hirohito (yes, that Hirohito). What Abe says about things like "comfort women" and the Nanking massacre borders on being equivalent to Holocaust denial.



We do have to remember Japan for all it's modernity it is at heart the land of Bushido and Zen Buddhism. This kind of culture does not lend itself well to acknowledging nor apologising for war crimes. And in the Japanese mindset defeat is a mortal sin that nigh on well demands atonement through ritualistic suicide. And the fact those they defeated did not do so lowered the status of their enemies into something less then human. And when you're less then human anything is really fair game. After all we consume animals simply for sheer pleasure do we not?

I am not saying I agree with that particular bit of Abe's statements but I do understand where the man is coming from.
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Honestly Shinzo is just a stubborn jackass with an archaic set of views. Japan is lucky it wasn't eradicated following WW2 with the stupidity of imperialism at it's forefront. Why would anyone want to move back in that direction.



Ya know mate I find it very hard to believe ya Canadian since ya talking like an American right now. Every major power in the entirety of human history has been imperialistic in one form or another. Just cause Japan lost their bid at Imperial Power does not make them any more evil then Britain, Russia, and hell even the USA have been at times.
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KnightOfZero1991 wrote:

Honestly Shinzo is just a stubborn jackass with an archaic set of views. Japan is lucky it wasn't eradicated following WW2 with the stupidity of imperialism at it's forefront. Why would anyone want to move back in that direction.



Ya know mate I find it very hard to believe ya Canadian since ya talking like an American right now. Every major power in the entirety of human history has been imperialistic in one form or another. Just cause Japan lost their bid at Imperial Power does not make them any more evil then Britain, Russia, and hell even the USA have been at times.


All the while you exude a very conservative tune not alike many Canadians where I'm from, but I digress, this has not to with our own personal opinion's of each other. I didn't mention that they were any more evil, the difference being that the Imperial regime thought it was a smart idea to fight a country armed with nuclear arsenal, sacrificing so many of their own for a deluded pride. They are finally shrugging some of that off, so why move back towards it is what I'm saying.
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That where I step in and take over as Marcus Octavius! Hail to Roman Empire! :p



I've been seeing your posts now and then; which anime is that from?
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JanusCascade wrote:

That where I step in and take over as Marcus Octavius! Hail to Roman Empire! :p



I've been seeing your posts now and then; which anime is that from?



Highlander the Search for Vengeance

Its Anime Movie, it made by same creator of Ninja Scroll! :)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander:_The_Search_for_Vengeance
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Ranwolf wrote:


KnightOfZero1991 wrote:

Honestly Shinzo is just a stubborn jackass with an archaic set of views. Japan is lucky it wasn't eradicated following WW2 with the stupidity of imperialism at it's forefront. Why would anyone want to move back in that direction.



Ya know mate I find it very hard to believe ya Canadian since ya talking like an American right now. Every major power in the entirety of human history has been imperialistic in one form or another. Just cause Japan lost their bid at Imperial Power does not make them any more evil then Britain, Russia, and hell even the USA have been at times.


All the while you exude a very conservative tune not alike many Canadians where I'm from, but I digress, this has not to with our own personal opinion's of each other. I didn't mention that they were any more evil, the difference being that the Imperial regime thought it was a smart idea to fight a country armed with nuclear arsenal, sacrificing so many of their own for a deluded pride. They are finally shrugging some of that off, so why move back towards it is what I'm saying.


Because the Russians are doing it, The Americans are doing it, The Chinese are doing it, The North Koreans are doing it, hell every country with two dollars to rub together is doing it. And just cause you refuse to create a army capable of striking out from beyond your own borders doesn't mean you'll be safe from the Imperial Desires of others.

Especially given the fact Japan is within striking distance of North Korea, China, and Russia. And throw in the fact the American public is becoming xenophobic and isolationist means that the Japanese might not be able to rely on American firepower to save their asses. Given all that I see no harm in a bit of nationalism. It'll fill the ranks of the army with volunteers who are always better fighters then conscripts.
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Because the Russians are doing it, The Americans are doing it, The Chinese are doing it, The North Koreans are doing it, hell every country with two dollars to rub together is doing it. And just cause you refuse to create a army capable of striking out from beyond your own borders doesn't mean you'll be safe from the Imperial Desires of others.

Especially given the fact Japan is within striking distance of North Korea, China, and Russia. And throw in the fact the American public is becoming xenophobic and isolationist means that the Japanese might not be able to rely on American firepower to save their asses. Given all that I see no harm in a bit of nationalism. It'll fill the ranks of the army with volunteers who are always better fighters then conscripts.


There is nothing wrong with building a defensive military, Japan really doesn't need to start wars, look where that has got them in the recent past. it's not just a little nationalism, Japan still has an overbearing level of nationalism, which is why they really haven't globalized and also why they've been in a recession for like the past 30 years basically. Japan at some point does need a military, but they need to fix themselves first.
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from what I have read and understand Prime minster Abe wants to make Japan as it was before WW2, essentially negating the constitutional changes that the US forced onto them. This would also mean giving the Emperor power again, which means that to get what he wants he has to obey the wishes of Emperor Akihito. I may be miss remembering what I read but it not than Emperor Akihito may well of put Prime minster Abe into checkmate.

I also recall reading about a cult that worships the Emperor which has a great deal in influence. either way at this point Japan would probably be better off if the Emperor had more power.
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Because the Russians are doing it, The Americans are doing it, The Chinese are doing it, The North Koreans are doing it, hell every country with two dollars to rub together is doing it. And just cause you refuse to create a army capable of striking out from beyond your own borders doesn't mean you'll be safe from the Imperial Desires of others.

Especially given the fact Japan is within striking distance of North Korea, China, and Russia. And throw in the fact the American public is becoming xenophobic and isolationist means that the Japanese might not be able to rely on American firepower to save their asses. Given all that I see no harm in a bit of nationalism. It'll fill the ranks of the army with volunteers who are always better fighters then conscripts.


There is nothing wrong with building a defensive military, Japan really doesn't need to start wars, look where that has got them in the recent past. it's not just a little nationalism, Japan still has an overbearing level of nationalism, which is why they really haven't globalized and also why they've been in a recession for like the past 30 years basically. Japan at some point does need a military, but they need to fix themselves first.


The best defence has always been a good offence. The ability to launch preemptive strikes based on the data your own intelligence services provide is the hallmark of modern warfare. Ending threats before they come to your own shores is the only saving grace in a world where military power can be projected in such an overwhelming manner as to render defensive tactics pointless.

This isn't 1914 anymore, digging a few trenches, putting up a few fortifications, and having a bunch of soldiers sit in said trenches and fortifications isn't going to cut it anymore. As it stands right now the JSDF is a nothing more then a glorified policing force that lacks the heavy weapons , armoured capability,aerial capability, nor even a presentable navy to deal with any other nation's military force should they land on Japanese soil.

And investment into the military industrial complex has frankly far reaching economic benefits. The least of which is creation of stable long term jobs both in manufacturing and in the armed forces themselves. Soldiers make a pretty decent wage all things considered, better then working part time in a maid cafe anyway. And the skilled specialists needed for weapons and vehicle production earn a damn fine wage in most first world countries.
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JanusCascade wrote:

That where I step in and take over as Marcus Octavius! Hail to Roman Empire! :p



I've been seeing your posts now and then; which anime is that from?



Highlander the Search for Vengeance

Its Anime Movie, it made by same creator of Ninja Scroll! :)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander:_The_Search_for_Vengeance



While I'm intrigued by it, it also seems to be off with the timeline. It said Romans conquering in 125 A.D., but Romans already had a wall built up signifying their territory by 122 AD under emperor Hadrian. But I'll still check it out.
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JanusCascade wrote:

Than where I step in and take over as Marcus Octavius! Hail to Roman Empire! :p


As cool as the the idea may sound, let's leave time-traveling legionaries invading Japan and establishing a Greco-Roman society in East Asia aside for the moment.

Do you believe that emperors in Japan ought to be allowed to step down and grant accession to their heirs while still alive? Do you approve of Shinzo Abe's political views more strongly, or the emperor's? Have I missed something?




Sorry had to click on reply so you'll get notification. :p I know its rude to ask a lady how old she is.. I'm assuming you're over age of 20.. You seem to be highly educated woman. Don't worry you're safe from me! :p Just that not many people have your intellect! :p

I was wondering, what Career are you going for? I'm guessing Government? Are you in age of between 20 to 25? If you rather not say your age I'll understand, I apologize for my lack of manner.. :p

I'm in 30's XD, used to be into PC tech and Networking Admin.. Just got quickly bored with it, wasn't happy with that job.. Just that people say if you go for high paying job you'll be happy and at that time they all tell me go into computer and I did.. and once I got the job at Court House, I wasn't really happy with it..

If you rather tell me in CR email, I'll understand.
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He should just abdicate and let his son be emperor. Fuck tradition or established procedures. Its his human right to say he doesn't want to be something or part of something anymore.
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We do have to remember Japan for all it's modernity it is at heart the land of Bushido and Zen Buddhism. This kind of culture does not lend itself well to acknowledging nor apologising for war crimes. And in the Japanese mindset defeat is a mortal sin that nigh on well demands atonement through ritualistic suicide. And the fact those they defeated did not do so lowered the status of their enemies into something less then human. And when you're less then human anything is really fair game. After all we consume animals simply for sheer pleasure do we not?

I am not saying I agree with that particular bit of Abe's statements but I do understand where the man is coming from.


Religion in Japan is an interesting animal. It's monumentally important since it has historically had strong ties to Japan's national and cultural identity (particularly Shinto), but at the same time the most popular religions in Japan don't actually have strict, codified guidelines by which people are expected to live day to day. As a matter of fact, the Pure Land variety of Buddhism hardly has any particularly specific guidelines at all, with salvation being granted essentially by just declaring one's faith in the Amida Buddha.

As for bushido, I'm aware that it's been used as a tool by ultranationalists to promote a sense of community, loyalty, and unity of both vision and purpose, but I don't think it's on the minds of people in general from day to day. I may be wrong on that, and if you showed me I was I wouldn't begrudge it, but as far as I know that particular cultural institution is beginning to take on a hue not terribly unlike the one knightly codes of chivarly have assumed: an anachronism used primarily in historical dramas. Again, I could be totally off, but that's the sense I've gotten from my own experiences. Most people are more worried about making the bills, taking care of their families, maintaining their health, and enjoying a comfortable, stable life than they are about whether they're living up to some code of knightly courage and virtue.


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Sorry had to click on reply so you'll get notification. :p


I do appreciate it when people do this. If they don't I might never know I need to respond to them. This is a bit different, though, since it's my own thread.


I know its rude to ask a lady how old she is.. I'm assuming you're over age of 20.. You seem to be highly educated woman. Don't worry you're safe from me! :p Just that not many people have your intellect! :p

I was wondering, what Career are you going for? I'm guessing Government? Are you in age of between 20 to 25? If you rather not say your age I'll understand, I apologize for my lack of manner.. :p


A fine compliment, and I thank you for it. Still, these questions are among those I tend to shy away from answering. I'm sorry.


I'm in 30's XD, used to be into PC tech and Networking Admin.. Just got quickly bored with it, wasn't happy with that job.. Just that people say if you go for high paying job you'll be happy and at that time they all tell me go into computer and I did.. and once I got the job at Court House, I wasn't really happy with it..

If you rather tell me in CR email, I'll understand. :D


And here I though you were really Octavius brought back from the dead and 100 years old to boot. I am disappoint.

Really, though: thank you for sharing this with me.
Posted 8/10/16
Who cares, "BlueOni". Akihito is nothing more than a figurehead. I suggest you make a thread about Abe, bleeding heart, if that's who you're fixated on...
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No the emperor has to stay, a job for life used to be common in Japan now its royal.
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