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What do you think of violence in fiction?
Posted 8/10/16 , edited 8/10/16

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Violence in media is nothing worth remedying at the extent it is portrayed now, but it is the way in which people are unaware of how it influences them on a personal level and how one relates to it. If you want to discard your power and create or enter into an environment that resembles to living in a hole void of life go ahead.


I think it has more an impact that you realize, and it isnt a positive power if it might lead to more violence. Power without control is not justice; if it harms society like an addiction then it is a danger to it.


" Oh noooo!!! People are powerless beings that are impervious to the evil that is the influence of violence in media!!! We can't control ourselves by being exposed to this great evil!!! "

Again if you want to discard your power go ahead. The issue isn't violence in media it's how we relate to it and if we're willing to actually investigate that within our own experience, see it for what it is, exercise control, and have discernment around it. We have choice and we have the ability to not be influenced. If you wanna play the savior and think that we're inherently powerless (to whatever degree you think we are) to the "evil" that is violence go ahead.
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Posted 8/10/16 , edited 8/10/16

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You answered it with your own question: it's fiction.


Fiction is an influence, the same as any other. It needs tougher regulation and less sex, drugs, and violence.

An adult can tell the difference between fiction and reality.
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chimps our closest living relative probably one of more brutally violent species on the planet yet they can't read and have little ability to comprehend what a video game or TV show is or even find that interesting yet they for example can wage war against each other for years till one group is pretty much wiped out all males killed most if not all the children and the females ether killed or added to the victors group. so i doubt fiction really has all that affect on humans violence is in our genes fiction does very little effect it one way or another with the exception of those who would have problems anyway.

and in truth for example violent video games give a way to let out some of our aggression without hurting anyone so more likely acting as a deteriorate then making things worse. also look at history plenty of violence without violent fiction yet places without them are often more violent now that could partly be because of poverty and such but shows that violence in fiction isn't increasing violence since if that was the case then why is it with all the millions/billions of video gamers and violent show/movie watchers their aren't considerable more violent people then their are dispute those people not being impoverished for the most part. its because those have little to do with why people are violent you have to look deeper into the issue then a persons hobbies for example do they do drugs mental illness, financial status,how they were raised,were they live etc are many factors that have a much stronger impact then fiction on weather if someone is violent or not.
Posted 8/10/16
Most songs are love songs. If media influenced people that much then everyone would be in love.
Anyway. The whole violence in fiction thing is just something the news irresponsibly throws around. It does not make people violent. The same goes for violence in video games. There is however a correlation between violence and frustration caused by video games but you can't get rid of frustration because stress is everywhere in life.
The world has worse thing to worry about then violence in fiction.
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Posted 8/10/16
Depiction of violence is not bad.... How else will you show the suffering of a victim of violence? That said, violence in real life is unfortunate and is one that should not happen but does.
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Posted 8/10/16 , edited 8/10/16
Most people can tell the difference between fictional violence and violent acts in reality. If someone can't, there is usually some other underlying factor, such as mental illnesses. Believing that we are powerless and destined to have violent thoughts or partake in violent acts because of a few pieces of fiction is preposterous. That's like saying everyone who drinks alcohol is destined to become alcoholics, or those who drive sports cars are destined to accumulate massive amounts of speeding tickets. Just because one (most likely mentally ill) person decides to partake in violent acts after watching fictional violence, doesn't mean the other hundreds of thousands of mentally healthy people will too.
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Posted 8/10/16 , edited 8/10/16
Simply put I think FICTIONAL violence is ... well ... FICTIONAL. It's up to parents to teach their children the difference between FICTION and REALITY and it's up to them to realize that others have opinions equal in value to their's and they can easily just turn the channel, refuse to see a movie or to buy a book they don't agree with. It's as simple as that.
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Posted 8/10/16 , edited 8/10/16
Well, I'm one of those rare people who thinks that fiction can indeed have an influence on reality (I mean, I've even cried over fictional characters before). That being said, I think violence in media can actually be productive. The best way to get violent media to have a positive influence is to make the violence truly repulsive. Make it clear that the viewer isn't supposed to enjoy it or find it normal. This doesn't need to be done by making it more graphic. It can be accomplished with phrasing, word choice, music, cinematography, etc. In this way, the piece of media may contain violence, but the message becomes anti-violent.

For a viewer, the only thing to do is become more conscious of what is being consumed. Either don't consume violent media, or else actively reinforce in your mind the division between fiction and reality so that violence itself becomes a fantasy like faeries and magic.

I myself usually (but not always) avoid violent media. I'm just naturally drawn to more lighthearted things, Thus, I sort of naturally avoid it out of disinterest. I'm more impressed with works that communicate their stories and themes through less objectionable means. But, again, that's just personal taste.
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Posted 8/10/16
So, this stance assumes that without violent media than humans natural state would to be nonviolent, however a simple reading of history we understand that this is not the case. People are naturally cruel, violent, and selfish, and it's not until interactions with other humans and exposure to social expectations do these attributes change.
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Posted 8/17/16
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