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Posted 8/12/16
A video that expresses my opinions of this movie well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xNr_5gQIwQ
Posted 8/12/16
I didn't like it. This new one doesn't stand on its own. It relies too much on the previous Star Wars movies.
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Posted 8/12/16
it's ok
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Saw it at the cinema and really enjoyed it. I'm putting that down to nostalgia and general Star Wars 'Squeeee!' though because it didn't really stand up to a second viewing at home. Too formulaic. Some of the scenes seemed unnecessary and there were characters that were basically fan service. It had some decent moments and wasn't Attack Of The Clones bad, it just wasn't original trilogy good.
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I finally got around to seeing it this month actually.

Where's the "meh" option? It was a bit better than Phantom Menace, but not nearly on the same level as the original trilogy, and it relied far too heavily on them to actually stand on its own merits. The pace also felt rushed to me.. Little character development and endless action sequences.

The villain was also... ridiculous. I mean, he's supposedly all badass and had jedi training, yadda yadda yadda.. Yet gets his butt handed to him by a guy who's never even held a lightsaber before? Maybe I should go compete in the Fencing competition at the next Olympics, apparently I won't need to practice.

Definitely a "one and done" film. I've no interest in re-watching it.
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Yeah I thought it was good

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Star Wars is fantastic. The first trilogy, the second trilogy, this trilogy, and the computer games. Non Star Wars fans and non Lucas fans can just go away IMO and jerk off to Michael Bay movies and pew pew pew games.
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Posted 8/12/16
No, worse than the prequels, too, imo.
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AnActualArtist wrote:

No, worse than the prequels, too, imo.


I know everybody has a different opinion but, seriously? The Force Awakens is worse than THIS?

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Posted 8/12/16 , edited 8/12/16

JosephJoestar01 wrote:


AnActualArtist wrote:

No, worse than the prequels, too, imo.


I know everybody has a different opinion but, seriously? The Force Awakens is worse than THIS?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xNr_5gQIwQ
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Posted 8/12/16 , edited 8/12/16


I love Star Wars, but I'm not a fanboy. Even though I agree with many points of the video, the fact is that I still like this movie more than the prequels. If anybody thinks that I'm an idiot for doing so, then go ahead and keep bringing the hate to the movie.
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Posted 8/12/16
I honestly didn't like it at all, I'll more than likely skip the others.
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Posted 8/12/16 , edited 9/4/16

JosephJoestar01 wrote:


AnActualArtist wrote:

No, worse than the prequels, too, imo.


I know everybody has a different opinion but, seriously? The Force Awakens is worse than THIS?



Obviously, though I think it's evident that this shitstain of a movie can be blamed on the current direction Hollywood is taken with their films, in that they are essentially remaking films (Episode VII is basically a rehash of Episode IV on purpose) to pander to this PC/SJW generation.

Off the top of my head the movies Hollywood fucked over with this shit so far are : Annie (Remake of the 1982 film but instead has a black actress), Star Wars Episode VII (For obvious reasons, it's also been confirmed that Finn and Poe are actually gay http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/631460/star-wars-gay-romance-who-is-gay-poe-finn-rey-star-wars-gay-character) Ghostbusters 2016 (Remake of the 1984 film but with an all female cast), and recently there's been an announcement of a new Ocean's movie called Ocean's Eight which stars an all female cast (http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/11/media/oceans-eight-all-women-cast/)


And don't think for a second that I thought the prequels were good, hell no, but damn, Episode VII was a hell of a lot worse. Thanks for the share OP, glad to see there are other people out there that understand how much of a shitty movie it was.
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I thought the film was fine, but nothing great. It was kind of meh.

As for the video linked in the OP, there are too many complaints to possibly address them all. I'll just focus on the plausibility of constructing Starkiller Base.

We have a real life estimate of what would go into constructing a Death Star thanks to a successful online petition eliciting a response from the White House:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/secure-resources-and-funding-and-begin-construction-death-star-2016

The estimated cost is, according to that response, about $850 quadrillion. The gross world product in 2015 was, according to the World Bank, about $73.4 trillion.

http://databank.worldbank.org/data/download/GDP.pdf

That's one planet and one year's worth of goods and services, so you'd need the equivalent of about 11,600 Earths' worth of annual production per Death Star. The Starkiller Base would be Death Star number three, so that's just shy of 35,000 Earths' worth of gross world product for a single year the Empire has sunk into Death Stars in total so far. That would certainly be impossible for us, and we would certainly drain ourselves of useful materials trying to do that, but you have to remember that the Empire in Star Wars spanned an entire galaxy. A 2012 estimate of the number of terrestrial planets in the Milky Way puts the figure at over ten billion.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_2233.html

This means the limiting factor for construction of a Death Star in the Star Wars universe isn't really materials, manpower, or funding. A galaxy wide economy would provide more than enough of these to build a fleet of Death Stars, and that's assuming they don't have some weird technology that would somehow dramatically reduce the estimated cost that I just can't account for because it doesn't actually exist (which is likely considering every Tom, Dick, and Harry seems to have spacecraft that can travel at near light speed). The most likely limiting factor would therefore be time, and that's reflected in the main complaint Palpatine and Vader have about the second Death Star's construction in Return of the Jedi: construction is proceeding unexpectedly slowly.

So what can we conclude from all that? Even if the First Order had access to only a fraction of the Empire's resources (whether because the Rebels drove them back or the Empire fell into a fit of infighting in Palpatine's absence) they'd probably still have enough money, manpower, and materials to work with to construct another Death Star within that fraction. All they'd need to do is buy time to gather materials and do the job.
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Posted 8/13/16

BlueOni wrote:

I thought the film was fine, but nothing great. It was kind of meh.

As for the video linked in the OP, there are too many complaints to possibly address them all. I'll just focus on the plausibility of constructing Starkiller Base.

We have a real life estimate of what would go into constructing a Death Star thanks to a successful online petition eliciting a response from the White House:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/secure-resources-and-funding-and-begin-construction-death-star-2016

The estimated cost is, according to that response, about $850 quadrillion. The gross world product in 2015 was, according to the World Bank, about $73.4 trillion.

http://databank.worldbank.org/data/download/GDP.pdf

That's one planet and one year's worth of goods and services, so you'd need the equivalent of about 11,600 Earths' worth of annual production per Death Star. The Starkiller Base would be Death Star number three, so that's just shy of 35,000 Earths' worth of gross world product for a single year the Empire has sunk into Death Stars in total so far. That would certainly be impossible for us, and we would certainly drain ourselves of useful materials trying to do that, but you have to remember that the Empire in Star Wars spanned an entire galaxy. A 2012 estimate of the number of terrestrial planets in the Milky Way puts the figure at over ten billion.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_2233.html

This means the limiting factor for construction of a Death Star in the Star Wars universe isn't really materials, manpower, or funding. A galaxy wide economy would provide more than enough of these to build a fleet of Death Stars, and that's assuming they don't have some weird technology that would somehow dramatically reduce the estimated cost that I just can't account for because it doesn't actually exist (which is likely considering every Tom, Dick, and Harry seems to have spacecraft that can travel at near light speed). The most likely limiting factor would therefore be time, and that's reflected in the main complaint Palpatine and Vader have about the second Death Star's construction in Return of the Jedi: construction is proceeding unexpectedly slowly.

So what can we conclude from all that? Even if the First Order had access to only a fraction of the Empire's resources (whether because the Rebels drove them back or the Empire fell into a fit of infighting in Palpatine's absence) they'd probably still have enough money, manpower, and materials to work with to construct another Death Star within that fraction. All they'd need to do is buy time to gather materials and do the job.


This movie broke most of the Star Wars lore, especially with the bullshit power of the First Order and the stupid character Rey.
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