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Posted 8/17/16

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Wow. Clearly none of you are related to or are friends with people who have been to prison.


Wow. Clearly you are not related to or are friends with people who were the victim of armed robbery, murder, rape, kidnapping, child molestation...etc.
Posted 8/17/16

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ZavinRoyalheart wrote:

Wow. Clearly none of you are related to or are friends with people who have been to prison.


Wow. Clearly you are not related to or are friends with people who were the victim of armed robbery, murder, rape, kidnapping, child molestation...etc.


Do you think all criminals are inhuman?
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Posted 8/17/16

ZavinRoyalheart wrote:


Xxanthar wrote:


ZavinRoyalheart wrote:

Wow. Clearly none of you are related to or are friends with people who have been to prison.


Wow. Clearly you are not related to or are friends with people who were the victim of armed robbery, murder, rape, kidnapping, child molestation...etc.


Do you think all criminals are inhuman?


Depends on the crime.
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Posted 8/17/16
1.Hang them
2.electrocute them
3. burn em
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lol idk are they animals?

Human rights apply to humans, duh
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I really have one simple rule: Do whatever you want as long as it causes no harm to another person. By harm I mean doing something to adversely affect the life of another person. Self-defense not included.

If you can't live life without following that rule you don't deserve life in my opinion.
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I think maybe I'll go a little bit of a different route here, and, instead of arguing about 'human rights' per se, I'll talk about how I see a person's rights as part of a society.

In that context, the one most pertinent to criminals and those accused of crimes is due process. That must never be denied any citizen of a given civilization. On the other hand, and partly flowing from the "right" of due process, justice MUST be carried out by institutions, not individuals or mobs. That means you, as an individual, have NO right to look up convicts and say, "Hey, he's a robber, I'm gonna kill him as punishment for his crimes."

Then the question becomes "What punishments do public institutions have the right to impose on criminals?" Personally, this is a practical question rather than a moral question. Incarceration is obviously OK as a means of protecting the public from further misdeeds and, potentially, as a simple punishment. Ditto for fines, community service, and legal restrictions such as revoking a drunk driver's license. The death penalty is tough; I don't like it, but for those criminals who will always be a danger, should they be released, particularly for heinous crimes such as serial murder or habitual predatory actions, you face the choice of how you are spending the public's money- in this case, on keeping such horrible individuals alive. Torture is, as far as I can tell, never justified. It serves no practical purpose, and would attract sociopaths and other unsavory individuals to work in the justice system, which is definitely a bad thing.
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Posted 8/17/16

RealWorld wrote:

1.Hang them
2.electrocute them
3. burn em


Okay I get it you want criminals to die horrible deaths.
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I'm favor of a 3 strikes and your out type of system. 3rd conviction of a felony and you should become fertilizer so that your existence can do at least some good for the world.

Is that angry and edgy enough for you to retreat to your safe space?


Okay Reaper we're all very impressed. No need to get your skull-print negligee in a bunch.
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Anyone who doesn't think so are also saying they don't want human rights to the wrongly accused.
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I've got to say, yes I believe prisoners should have civil rights, safety and a chance to reform. It would also make sense to have a stronger reformation agenda outside prison to give former inmates a better chance at straightening their lives out. Not all crimes are violent crimes and not all ex-inmates refuse to reform. Given the chance to make things right many will take it when given a chance.
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Let me know if a thread like this one exist or not.
Thanks a bunches.


Some people do not view criminals as human beings while some do. It is conflicting to decide whether or not to treat a criminal as a human being for whatever crime they did. I have mixed feelings about it. So do human right apply to convicted criminals? Is it inhumane to torture criminals for their crimes?

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If we are talking about real criminals (and by that I mean people who have actually committed crimes and not those who are imprisoned because everyone in prison is not a criminal but I digress.) I feel like no matter what a person has done we are all people, no one is a superior being no matter how much money, status, or whatever they may possess. Yeah people do things that are not under our moral compass but that does not make them any less human so yes their human rights still apply. Torture is inhumane, in my opinion, it doesn't solve anything.
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Posted 8/17/16 , edited 8/17/16

Xxanthar wrote:

I'm favor of a 3 strikes and your out type of system. 3rd conviction of a felony and you should become fertilizer so that your existence can do at least some good for the world.

Is that angry and edgy enough for you to retreat to your safe space?


The 3 strike rule maybe for class A felonies like murder, rape, and armed robbery. But what about someone who has been convicted of possession of drug paraphernalia like a bong twice ,the first is a misdemeanor the second an automatic felony, then throw in a conviction of possession marihuana first degree can work just like the possession of drug paraphernalia second conviction is an automatic felony, also throw in a conviction of receiving stolen property third degree anything over the value of five hundred dollars, just brought the wrong thing from the wrong person. Does this person deserve to die? (these laws may not be the same where you live)
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Posted 8/17/16
They are. Aslong as you are not a jihadist
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the animals rights welfare is over at the counter 15# on 2nd floor,
is there any other thing u need help with?
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