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So, would you read a story with terrible grammar but an excellent storytelling? Would you prefer you novels to have best of both worlds, good grammar and good story telling? Could you ever read a novel with great grammar but a horrid storytelling? What matters most when writing a story?

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Reading a story with terrible grammar is difficult - your mind will be constantly correcting what's written to what you think is proper grammar. It's very jarring and interrupts your enjoyment of the written prose.

While it's good to have the best of both worlds, I can live with grammar that's slightly off at times.

If the grammar is good, but the story itself is poorly done, there's really no reason to read it.

What matters most in writing a story? Finding a way to engage your audience, to assist them in empathizing and identifying with the characters. All stories have a 'hook' to catch the readers' interest, from there it's up to the author to keep them interested to the end.

Poor grammar and spelling errors are peeves of mine - what many indie authors fail to understand is that a spellchecker simply insures a word is correctly spelled, not that you've used the correct word. (There/Their/They're being one of the more egregious examples)

Professional editing/proofreading/spellchecking can be expensive, but also essential to tightening up and clarifying writing styles, removing redundant/conflicting paragraphs, and insuring that the background information stays consistent in subsequent books.
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i do it every time i read a comic covered by a scanalation team ;D
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Can't people just use grammar checkers?


I mean it would help with syntax and spelling errors, but it wouldn't help with sentences that are grammatically correct but make no sense, are confusing, or don't deliver the intended effect.


Well if someone couldn't even write a sentence that makes sense then I doubt the person could write a whole story...
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My fanfic suffered a lot because of bad grammar. I had to rewrite that story so many times. As my grammar improved, and as readability improved, I got more people to finish reading my story.

In the past, I have had a lot of people stop reading after the first few chapters and then stop. Only a very few would read all the way to the end. Now, as I improved grammar, paragraph structures, and improved my descriptive writing, I have had more and more people read all the way to the end.

It's still a rough story. The first chapter still needs work, and I'm going through another rewrite even now. So, I say yeah, bad grammar is a story killer.
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Where'd this topic come from...

... but the heck? No, a novel with terrible grammar would be a bad novel. I would argue that the author shouldn't consider it complete if its grammar is bad. And if the author did consider it complete, that author would be a bad writer. The only way this could possibly make sense is if it were a draft, or never shown to anyone. If you want people to read something, you should respect them enough to play the language game by its conventional rules. That is, until our society no longer values clear communication. And that probably won't happen.

I am assuming you don't mean that the grammar is intentionally bad - perhaps the novel is entirely dialogue or internal monologues, and all the characters speak colloquially and have poor grammar. That would be fine, of course.
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auroraloose wrote:

Where'd this topic come from...

... but the heck? No, a novel with terrible grammar would be a bad novel. I would argue that the author shouldn't consider it complete if its grammar is bad. And if the author did consider it complete, that author would be a bad writer. The only way this could possibly make sense is if it were a draft, or never shown to anyone. If you want people to read something, you should respect them enough to play the language game by its conventional rules. That is, until our society no longer values clear communication. And that probably won't happen.

I am assuming you don't mean that the grammar is intentionally bad - perhaps the novel is entirely dialogue or internal monologues, and all the characters speak colloquially and have poor grammar. That would be fine, of course.


This topic came from my inner most thoughts. I was curious.
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Sounds exactly like a certain southpark episode.
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I watch anime with shit stories and bad storytelling, so I might read a story with bad grammar for ironic value.
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qualeshia3 wrote:

This topic came from my inner most thoughts. I was curious.


Oh - I meant that you made the forum a couple months ago, and it's suddenly back.
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auroraloose wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:

This topic came from my inner most thoughts. I was curious.


Oh - I meant that you made the forum a couple months ago, and it's suddenly back.


Oh, I commented on someone's post.
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qualeshia3 wrote:


auroraloose wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:

This topic came from my inner most thoughts. I was curious.


Oh - I meant that you made the forum a couple months ago, and it's suddenly back.


Oh, I commented on someone's post.


You mean, you necro'd a thread...?
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DeadlyOats wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:


auroraloose wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:

This topic came from my inner most thoughts. I was curious.


Oh - I meant that you made the forum a couple months ago, and it's suddenly back.


Oh, I commented on someone's post.


You mean, you necro'd a thread...?


Yes.
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LOL She admits it!

It's O.K. It's not like this thread was last posted in 2014 or something. I've seen threads that old, and even older than that, getting necro'd.

Plus, the topic is relevant to me. So, I'll tolerate posting on a zombie thread (LOL).
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