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No it isn't fair, guys biologically are stronger.


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lmao. I like how most ( I SAID MOST) of the men here and if you ask them they say biologically they are suppose to be there. Reminds me again on just how transphobic the internet is at times.

But since this is "is it fair for a transwoman" then ask most women and they said "if she feels like a women then she is". I have asked before and most have said yes. Though, I know someone is gonna say "but women can say no" true but I am saying most women I met in my experience. But I am thankful for the men that agree on the "if they feel it then yes, they are that gender"
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But I am thankful for the men that agree on the "if they feel it then yes, they are that gender"

But they're not.
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Fuck no. I mean seriously...
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Technically it isn't fair because they were born male but after goring through the transformation it wouldn't be fair to call them guys because it is very disrespectful since you wouldn't be respecting their decision

Edit: I believe there is no right or wrong answer for this


The problem is it's not all about them or their choice.

Some things are just not up for debate and can't be chosen.

You can't choose your parents.

You can't choose your siblings.

and you can't choose what you are born as.

I am all for respecting their choice to live as they wish. I want to re emphasize that I am in no way against this.


But what if I "choose" to identify as an esper? am I suddenly going to gain ESP? NO!!!

The point is reality doesn't conform to your feelings and you have to accept that you can't just decide what you are. People need to stop living in a fantasy world where they think they can do whatever they want based on feelings.

Life isn't that convenient people. But that is just how life is and we ALL have to deal with it.


I see where you're coming from... but it simply is the world we live in while you're right bout somethings such as, "You can't choose your parents. You can't choose your siblings. and you can't choose what you are born as." but the reality is after you're born yo can be anything you ever wanted to be and thats the beauty of the world we are brought into. If someone tries to tell you other wise tell them "That's stinking Thinking, I can be anything I want." If I declare myself the best than as long as I believe it I am the best and everyone else has to acknowledge that "I" believe I am the best.
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Changing your gender is part of your rights and if that ( the topic wasn't allowed) then some people are taking away citizens rights.

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Trannies just wanna watch the world burn.
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


capt_bunny wrote:

But I am thankful for the men that agree on the "if they feel it then yes, they are that gender"

But they're not.


Technically, they are. But seeing how you disagree, you are not that those type of men that think that. I can't say anything to you since you are always gonna disagree. I have men some that actually agree if you know you are a women in a man's body then you are a woman. But then again, there are many genders. I can see you not believing in that since you are comfortable with your gender. But there are gonna be some people in the world that are not. Just gotta be open minded, friend.

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lmao. I like how most ( I SAID MOST) of the men here and if you ask them they say biologically they are suppose to be there. Reminds me again on just how transphobic the internet is at times.

But since this is "is it fair for a transwoman" then ask most women and they said "if she feels like a women then she is". I have asked before and most have said yes. Though, I know someone is gonna say "but women can say no" true but I am saying most women I met in my experience. But I am thankful for the men that agree on the "if they feel it then yes, they are that gender"


Then could we treat the transgender woman athlete as using an unfair advantage and disqualify her on the use of it, just like the way the IOC disqualify women athletes who dope or use illegal tactics on the field (e.g. interfering with another team's pass during a relay race?)
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capt_bunny wrote:

lmao. I like how most ( I SAID MOST) of the men here and if you ask them they say biologically they are suppose to be there. Reminds me again on just how transphobic the internet is at times.

But since this is "is it fair for a transwoman" then ask most women and they said "if she feels like a women then she is". I have asked before and most have said yes. Though, I know someone is gonna say "but women can say no" true but I am saying most women I met in my experience. But I am thankful for the men that agree on the "if they feel it then yes, they are that gender"


Then could we treat the transgender woman athlete as using an unfair advantage and disqualify her on the use of it, just like the way the IOC disqualify women athletes who dope or use illegal tactics on the field (e.g. interfering with another team's pass during a relay race?)


I don't think its an unfair advantage. Because, they could be an actual good sport. Playing fair. As long as a transwoman is then there there but actually play the sport right then its okay. They should be treated the same way as women. If they use dope then kick them out like any other woman.

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nanikore2 wrote:


capt_bunny wrote:

lmao. I like how most ( I SAID MOST) of the men here and if you ask them they say biologically they are suppose to be there. Reminds me again on just how transphobic the internet is at times.

But since this is "is it fair for a transwoman" then ask most women and they said "if she feels like a women then she is". I have asked before and most have said yes. Though, I know someone is gonna say "but women can say no" true but I am saying most women I met in my experience. But I am thankful for the men that agree on the "if they feel it then yes, they are that gender"


Then could we treat the transgender woman athlete as using an unfair advantage and disqualify her on the use of it, just like the way the IOC disqualify women athletes who dope or use illegal tactics on the field (e.g. interfering with another team's pass during a relay race?)


I don't think its an unfair advantage. Because, they could be an actual good sport. Playing fair. As long as a transwoman is then there there but actually play the sport right then its okay. They should be treated the same way as women. If they use dope then kick them out like any other woman.



But that's like saying not X because not X...

They're not being unfair because they're being fair...
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Trannies just wanna watch the world burn.


Hey, we need SOMETHING to watch between anime episodes
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


capt_bunny wrote:

But I am thankful for the men that agree on the "if they feel it then yes, they are that gender"

But they're not.


Technically, they are.

Actually, technically, they're not.


I can't say anything to you since you are always gonna disagree.

Most likely.


But then again, there are many genders.

LOL. Did you get a PhD in tumblrology?


I can see you not believing in that since you are comfortable with your gender.

Damn straight.


But there are gonna be some people in the world that are not.

Awh. That sucks.


Just gotta be open minded, friend.

I can be open-minded and have a firm grasp of reality.


And no, not a tumblr user.

I somehow doubt it.
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


capt_bunny wrote:


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


capt_bunny wrote:

But I am thankful for the men that agree on the "if they feel it then yes, they are that gender"

But they're not.


Technically, they are.

Actually, technically, they're not.


I can't say anything to you since you are always gonna disagree.

Most likely.


But then again, there are many genders.

LOL. Did you get a PhD in tumblrology?


I can see you not believing in that since you are comfortable with your gender.

Damn straight.


But there are gonna be some people in the world that are not.

Awh. That sucks.


Just gotta be open minded, friend.

I can be open-minded and have a firm grasp of reality.


And no, not a tumblr user.

I somehow doubt it.


-shrugs- Fine if you don't believe me but as I said, obviously you were gonna disagree. But I suppose on reality. But your open mind-ness is.... Never mind, fam. Just enjoy your day. c: I am not gonna say anymore since I don't want to argue on here.

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A transgendered woman would have an unfair athletic advantage. This have nothing to do whether or not one is for or against transgendered, but rather to keep a level playing field.

I'll admit, things get hazy when you debate hermaphrodites, but that's another story entirely.
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