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Posted 2/16/08

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Im not sure if thats what its called but i do think that it exists. Just like there is people that worship and believe in God there are those that worship the devil. Im not sure if there is an organized group or anything but I know that there are. For example some of the people that would be satanists would be like those that practice witchcraft or offer to read your hands or use tarrot cards and so on.


I think you're confusing Satanists with Wiccans. Although Satanists do worship Satan, I thought that wiccans were the ones who practiced witchcraft.


Witchcraft is a practice, not a religion. Anyone can be a witch, technically, even Christians (though they're considered heretical). There are Satanic witches, Christian witches, Pagan witches, etc.

Wicca is called the "Church of Witchcraft", though. It isn't the say all, end all of witchcraft though, and neither are any of the forms of Satanism. For example, I stopped considering myself Wiccan long ago (they traditionally need initiation, anyhow, which I didn't have), but I still consider myself a witch by practice. I'm currently a Greek pagan (Acheans unite!).


Right, however I was under the under standing that Satanists normally didn't practice witchrcraft. A lot of people also mistakenly equate Wicca with Satanism
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Posted 2/16/08

artgeek707 wrote:


CerridwenStorms wrote:


artgeek707 wrote:


uchi23 wrote:

Im not sure if thats what its called but i do think that it exists. Just like there is people that worship and believe in God there are those that worship the devil. Im not sure if there is an organized group or anything but I know that there are. For example some of the people that would be satanists would be like those that practice witchcraft or offer to read your hands or use tarrot cards and so on.


I think you're confusing Satanists with Wiccans. Although Satanists do worship Satan, I thought that wiccans were the ones who practiced witchcraft.


Witchcraft is a practice, not a religion. Anyone can be a witch, technically, even Christians (though they're considered heretical). There are Satanic witches, Christian witches, Pagan witches, etc.

Wicca is called the "Church of Witchcraft", though. It isn't the say all, end all of witchcraft though, and neither are any of the forms of Satanism. For example, I stopped considering myself Wiccan long ago (they traditionally need initiation, anyhow, which I didn't have), but I still consider myself a witch by practice. I'm currently a Greek pagan (Acheans unite!).


Right, however I was under the under standing that Satanists normally didn't practice witchrcraft. A lot of people also mistakenly equate Wicca with Satanism


Normally, no, though most of the one's I've spoken to do practice witchcraft. Many still do practice magic, but will never equate it to witchcraft, due to differences in mechanics. Several don't, though, and follow Satanism solely as a philosophy and not a religion.

LaVey was a witch, though, and most of his dirrect students are too, to my knowledge.

And people either equate Wicca to Satanism either because they know nothing about it and just heard it being called that or because they're strictly told that anything that doesn't follow a faith of Abraham is Satan's work.
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of course satanism exsists. but in reality it isn't devil worship. satanism is viewed in a more pre-christian, pagan way. it deal a lot with witchcraft and nature and stuff. some also involve themselves with "pleasures of the flesh" that are looked down on in christianity, like sex and gluttony.

devil worship satanism is for angry, rebellious teenagers who just want to piss off the christian authority.
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Heh....i know a ffew. They all seem to be nice people. Satanism is not so much about anti-Christianity, its more about standing apart from the flock or being different. He gave us free will so we were not mindless drones........course im Agnostic/pagan so........blech. Up to you what you believe. Im just open minded.
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practically anything thats a belief exists these days
what is wrong with satanism o_o
(I dont think it's really related to Satan)
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Posted 2/16/08

CerridwenStorms wrote:


artgeek707 wrote:


CerridwenStorms wrote:


artgeek707 wrote:


uchi23 wrote:

Im not sure if thats what its called but i do think that it exists. Just like there is people that worship and believe in God there are those that worship the devil. Im not sure if there is an organized group or anything but I know that there are. For example some of the people that would be satanists would be like those that practice witchcraft or offer to read your hands or use tarrot cards and so on.


I think you're confusing Satanists with Wiccans. Although Satanists do worship Satan, I thought that wiccans were the ones who practiced witchcraft.


Witchcraft is a practice, not a religion. Anyone can be a witch, technically, even Christians (though they're considered heretical). There are Satanic witches, Christian witches, Pagan witches, etc.

Wicca is called the "Church of Witchcraft", though. It isn't the say all, end all of witchcraft though, and neither are any of the forms of Satanism. For example, I stopped considering myself Wiccan long ago (they traditionally need initiation, anyhow, which I didn't have), but I still consider myself a witch by practice. I'm currently a Greek pagan (Acheans unite!).


Right, however I was under the under standing that Satanists normally didn't practice witchrcraft. A lot of people also mistakenly equate Wicca with Satanism


Normally, no, though most of the one's I've spoken to do practice witchcraft. Many still do practice magic, but will never equate it to witchcraft, due to differences in mechanics. Several don't, though, and follow Satanism solely as a philosophy and not a religion.

LaVey was a witch, though, and most of his dirrect students are too, to my knowledge.

And people either equate Wicca to Satanism either because they know nothing about it and just heard it being called that or because they're strictly told that anything that doesn't follow a faith of Abraham is Satan's work.


that's interesting to know. Also What does the word witchcraft entail. For example, what practices are considered witchcraft (requesting move to extended discussion)
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ya its true, its just VERY WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I thought you were talking about Santa Clause . . .
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Also What does the word witchcraft entail. For example, what practices are considered witchcraft.


Witchcraft is typically folk magic, and not magical practices in general contrary to popular belief. They're the magical practices of the "common people", like herb lore, candle magics, poppets and the like. Common divinations like pyromancy (the suffix "-mancy" actually doesn't mean "magical manipulation of", but "divined from"), cartomancy ( card reading), and tasseomancy (tea leaves) are also aligned with witchcraft.

Keep in mind, though, that these things are more commonly considered witchcraft only after the early 20th century and anything called witchcraft before this period was never looked upon in a positive light, even in ancient pagan cultures (the good magicians were essentially called that--magicians, or sometimes "wise ones", in whichever language those people spoke). In fact, there's little to show for any mention of a "good witch" before L. Frank Baum's Oz books were published in 1900. There was barely ever a line drawn between folk magic and the label of witchcraft until the writtings of Dr. Margret Murray were published.
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it exist believe it or not........btw im one of the members..lol..
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wtf satanism freaken only gothic and emo weirdos do that and wtf thats pointless parying the devil i mean the devil doesnt give a shit about them so wtf is the point and when they die they'll go to hell no matter wat and the devil will torture them even if they prayed him he still doesnt give a crap he is the devil what else!
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wtf satanism freaken only gothic and emo weirdos do that and wtf thats pointless parying the devil i mean the devil doesnt give a shit about them so wtf is the point and when they die they'll go to hell no matter wat and the devil will torture them even if they prayed him he still doesnt give a crap he is the devil what else!


Yay for, you know, reading the thread... The reason the world doesn't progress is that people want to jump into the projects and discussion without attempting to learn anything about it first.
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If there is heaven there is hell....balance...yeah there is.... you know why? watch some real exorsist, not just any people...extraordinary ppl...
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of course it exist..... i dont know if u belive or not but they do make sacrifices and they also have a bible that says that satan is gonna win agaist jesus when he returns
Posted 2/16/08
Satanism is sort of a modern thing. Some guy named Anton Levay created the "Satanic Bible" and the "Church of Satan" or something. I think it's a silly idea that he came up with to get famous and make money.
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