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Believe in the God that believes in You!

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Dark_Alma wrote:

[Please explain how god helps Genocide, world hunger, global disasters, etc then ;)


He inspires PEOPLE to help them, on principle, even if they don't happen to get any profit out of it, or even if the work might be too hard to do.
As a result, a lot of people end up helped, people's minds are changed about genocide and political repression, and cures are discovered for diseases.

Am I going too fast? I could take the explanation slower if you're having difficulty following--Got the Crayola crayons all ready.


Gott mit Uns. Tell me how happy the history is with that phrase.
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LOL at that last part. I don't think God planned out the Giants winning the superbowl back in 2008, but the players do give God the glory though.

As for your first part, it's more like.. why aren't WE helping genocide, world hunger, and global disasters. Stuff like that are a product of our own kind's undoing. And that's something we gotta do ourselves if we wanna see the change. I'm not saying we could've stopped Hitler from starting the Holocaust, but because God doesn't force actions upon people or control them, stuff like genocide happens. That's a product of people abusing their free will. That being said, it was unfortunate for Hitler to take the path of murder and killing, even when he called himself a believer of God.

Back to the main topic, it's not God's responsibility to fix our own issues. If God were doing that, he could've stopped Eve from eating the fruit to begin with.

It is a REALLY good question though. I use to think about it all the time. Unfortunately, I don't have all the answers.
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Posted 8/25/16 , edited 8/25/16

Ejanss wrote:


Dark_Alma wrote:

[Please explain how god helps Genocide, world hunger, global disasters, etc then ;)


He inspires PEOPLE to help them, on principle, even if they don't happen to get any profit out of it, or even if the work might be too hard to do.
As a result, a lot of people end up helped, people's minds are changed about genocide and political repression, and cures are discovered for diseases.

Am I going too fast? I could take the explanation slower if you're having difficulty following--Got the Crayola crayons all ready.



So much of your post was opinionated garbage, it's hard to figure out what points you were truly attempting to make..

By those standards, "he's" also inspired people to massacre, rape, pillage, persecute, etc.
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Believe in the God that believes in You!



yeah seriously
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LOL at that last part. I don't think God planned out the Giants winning the superbowl back in 2008, but the players do give God the glory though.

As for your first part, it's more like.. why aren't WE helping genocide, world hunger, and global disasters. Stuff like that are a product of our own kind's undoing. And that's something we gotta do ourselves if we wanna see the change. I'm not saying we could've stopped Hitler from starting the Holocaust, but because God doesn't force actions upon people or control them, stuff like genocide happens. That's a product of people abusing their free will. That being said, it was unfortunate for Hitler to take the path of murder and killing, even when he called himself a believer of God.

Back to the main topic, it's not God's responsibility to fix our own issues. If God were doing that, he could've stopped Eve from eating the fruit to begin with.

It is a REALLY good question though. I use to think about it all the time. Unfortunately, I don't have all the answers.


The thing is, I don't need religion to tell me to donate to these causes. I have put well over $10,000 into various causes. I never was inspired to do this by any celestial being. I just wanted to do it.

I do know some big charities were actually donated to the most by atheist communities, but refunded them back due to the backlash of various religions. I don't like that. I think that everyone should accept everyone. However, I see it is a one way street most of the time.

Oh well, the USA as well as a lot of the first world countries are changing, slowly. I just wont be around (alive) to see what I always dreamed about!
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It doesn't matter.
Religion is about you believing in god, not the other way around.
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Unless you hate God, or don't believe in him. Like me. You don't have to worry about anything like that.
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Yeah, you don't need religion to tell you what's right or wrong lol. But I really respect that you do donate, that's very cool.

and yeah, that's whack that they refunded the donations due to differences in beliefs.
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reaperx- wrote:


Ejanss wrote:


Dark_Alma wrote:

[Please explain how god helps Genocide, world hunger, global disasters, etc then ;)


He inspires PEOPLE to help them, on principle, even if they don't happen to get any profit out of it, or even if the work might be too hard to do.
As a result, a lot of people end up helped, people's minds are changed about genocide and political repression, and cures are discovered for diseases.

Am I going too fast? I could take the explanation slower if you're having difficulty following--Got the Crayola crayons all ready.


So much of your post was opinionated garbage, it's hard to figure out what points you were truly attempting to make..

By those standards, "he's" also inspired people to massacre, rape, pillage, persecute, etc.


"Free will" means we choose to be jerks as much as we can choose not to. We're persuaded not to, but that hasn't stopped selfish, issued jerks yet. To try and do so would be to do EXACTLY what you're throwing the tantrum about.

And said concept of un-predetermined actions also means it's nobody else's fault if you do choose the path of jerkdom. The mess is pretty much on you, as is the duty of cleaning it up.
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Materialistic plebs, I see.
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Posted 8/26/16 , edited 8/26/16

You clearly didn't understand my post. Please stop using myth as a basis for your arguments.
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reaperx- wrote:

You clearly didn't understand my post. Please stop using myth as a basis for your arguments.

Firstly I'm going to clean up this absolute horror of a quote pyramid, bloody disgusting. Now, not to interfere in this "intellectual" discussion, but nothing that man/women/whatever said lead me to believe that they were "using myth as a basis for" their "arguments". Where did you get that idea? He was talking about freewill vs. determinism, not "myth".
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Posted 8/26/16 , edited 8/26/16


"They" used free will as the basis for their last statement. That is a religious idea, and technically their religion is myth.

>argument based on myth^

The free will they were referring to was likely the "free will" provided to us by their God, not one we inherently have as humans.


pardon me mate, i've just woken up.)
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