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Alas, there is Gary Johnson for the alternative choice.


too bad he supports the tpp :L
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descloud wrote:
Alas, there is Gary Johnson for the alternative choice.


too bad he supports the tpp :L


Awful trade deal.
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And I suppose pulling out the race card at La Raza wasn't as racist as, say, a black man accusing an officer of racial profiling because the officer in question was white? In any case, there's more than enough bullshit that comes out of Trump's mouth.


PV, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen you post. Are you seriously equating voluntary membership in a "racial pride" group, IE a racial supremacy group who promotes illegal actions (illegal border violations, if nothing else), the name of which literally translates to "the race"; with the idea that a white police officer *must* be a racist, solely because he is white?

That is.... incredibly foolish, not to mention bigoted of you.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

And I suppose pulling out the race card at La Raza wasn't as racist as, say, a black man accusing an officer of racial profiling because the officer in question was white? In any case, there's more than enough bullshit that comes out of Trump's mouth.


PV, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen you post. Are you seriously equating voluntary membership in a "racial pride" group, IE a racial supremacy group who promotes illegal actions (illegal border violations, if nothing else), the name of which literally translates to "the race"; with the idea that a white police officer *must* be a racist, solely because he is white?

That is.... incredibly foolish, not to mention bigoted of you.


No, I'm saying that it's racist of a black man to accuse a white officer of racism solely because he is white.

Edit: Reread the post and I don't see where it wasn't clear, nor was I aware that the Judge was in such a group. That sounds quite bad.


This apparently came up though.

http://www.snopes.com/judge-curiel-la-raza-kkk/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jun/07/donald-trump/trump-wrongly-casts-california-lawyers-group-stron/

Though let's be fair, I'm pretty ignorant on this case. I heard La Raza and assumed it was a place.

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outontheop wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

And I suppose pulling out the race card at La Raza wasn't as racist as, say, a black man accusing an officer of racial profiling because the officer in question was white? In any case, there's more than enough bullshit that comes out of Trump's mouth.


PV, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen you post. Are you seriously equating voluntary membership in a "racial pride" group, IE a racial supremacy group who promotes illegal actions (illegal border violations, if nothing else), the name of which literally translates to "the race"; with the idea that a white police officer *must* be a racist, solely because he is white?

That is.... incredibly foolish, not to mention bigoted of you.


No, I'm saying that it's racist of a black man to accuse a white officer of racism solely because he is white.


Ah, yes, that makes a lot more sense. Both are pretty ridicuous.

I can't say I really blame Trump for being suspicious of La Raza; they openly scoff US immigration law and have gone way past "we're proud of our heritage" and into "everyone else is inferior" territory.
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Racist? Nah this man is anti-discrimination. Actions speak FAR louder than words.


“When Donald opened his club in Palm Beach called Mar-a-Lago, he insisted on accepting Jews and blacks even though other clubs in Palm Beach to this day discriminate against blacks and Jews. The old guard in Palm Beach was outraged that Donald would accept blacks and Jews so that’s the real Donald Trump that I know.”

That was author Ronald Kessler in a July 2015 interview with Newsmax, talking about Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump’s business practices when it came to building a golf course in the Deep South.

In the 1990s, Trump was running into a problem getting his golf course approved by the local town council in Palm Beach, which was imposing restrictions on his bid.

So Trump shot back with maximum effect. As reported by the Washington Post’s Mary Jordan and Rosalind Helderman on Nov. 14, 2015: “Trump undercut his adversaries with a searing attack, claiming that local officials seemed to accept the established private clubs in town that had excluded Jews and blacks while imposing tough rules on his inclusive one.”

The Washington Post report continues, “Trump’s lawyer sent every member of the town council copies of two classic movies about discrimination: ‘A Gentleman’s Agreement,’ about a journalist who pretends to be Jewish to expose anti-Semitism, and ‘Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner’ about a white couple’s reaction to their daughter bringing home a black fiancé.”

Sometimes, in judging the character of an individual, it pays to see what people actually do when nobody’s really paying attention. When it came to segregation in the South at private, all-white country clubs, it might have been in Trump’s business interests to simply look the other way. Instead, Trump did the right thing and insisted on desegregation at his golf resort.

And he won.

Soon thereafter, the local restrictions were lifted and, today, the golf course is open and remains inclusive.

It remains a point of pride for Trump, who boasted about the golf resort in a 2015 interview, “Whether they love me or not, everyone agrees the greatest and most important place in Palm Beach is Mar-a-Lago. I took this ultimate place and made it incredible and opened it, essentially, to the people of Palm Beach. The fact that I owned it made it a lot easier to get along with the Palm Beach establishment.”

At the time in 1997, then-Anti-Defamation League President Abraham Foxman praised Trump for elevating the issue of discrimination at private clubs, telling the Wall Street Journal, “He put the light on Palm Beach. Not on the beauty and the glitter, but on its seamier side of discrimination. It has an impact.” Foxman credited Trump’s move with encouraging other clubs in Palm Beach to do the same as Mar-a-Lago in opening up.

That’s the real Donald Trump. The one who dealt with a real problem to do with discrimination on race and religion in Palm Beach long before he was ever seeking public office by confronting a local planning board over its exclusive policies, determined he would do things differently.

http://truthfeed.com/trump-insisted-on-including-jews-and-blacks-at-palm-beach-golf-course-in-1990s-when-others-didnt/10528/



I guess when he said that judge from Illinois was incapable of being impartial because his family is from Mexico was just a misunderstanding.
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13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83
He claims to have "a great relationship with the blacks," which is totally something a normal person would say.

His white supremacist fan club includes the Daily Stormer, a leading neo-Nazi news site; Richard Spencer, director of the National Policy Institute, which aims to promote the “heritage, identity, and future of European people”; Jared Taylor, editor of American Renaissance, a Virginia-based white nationalist magazine; Michael Hill, head of the League of the South, an Alabama-based white supremacist secessionist group; and Brad Griffin, a member of Hill’s League of the South and author of the popular white supremacist blog Hunter Wallace.

A leader of the Virginia KKK who is backing Trump told a local TV reporter earlier this month, “The reason a lot of Klan members like Donald Trump is because a lot of what he believes, we believe in.


Trump: "Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks."
http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/



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outontheop wrote:

Ah, yes, that makes a lot more sense. Both are pretty ridicuous.

I can't say I really blame Trump for being suspicious of La Raza; they openly scoff US immigration law and have gone way past "we're proud of our heritage" and into "everyone else is inferior" territory.


I guess Trump was at least guilty of a stupid assumption about what La Raza is rather than malicious paranoia....I think.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

And I suppose pulling out the race card at La Raza wasn't as racist as, say, a black man accusing an officer of racial profiling because the officer in question was white? In any case, there's more than enough bullshit that comes out of Trump's mouth.



Though let's be fair, he was a democrat in the 90s, and didn't believe in "freedom of association" as many have called it. Which begs the question, is having a "no girls allowed" a valid expression of freedom in what is probably a private country club? I'm not sure.


La Raza is racist and it's followers and supporters should be hung for attempting treason against the USA.
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"Conservative media have a long history of attempting to smear Latino civil rights organizations with 'la raza' in their name, based on this culturally incompetent translation."
No, Conservative Media, That’s Not What “La Raza” Means In Spanish

Trump campaign and the alt-right
http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/trump-campaign-and-the-alt-right-752613443882
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whether or not Trump is a racist himself isn't necessarily 100% the matter, as much as the fact that his supporters tend to be flaming bigots instead. If you attract that brand of folk, it's quite a negative reflection of character.


I'm pretty sure Hillary has just as many bigots following her as Trump does.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

And I suppose pulling out the race card at La Raza wasn't as racist as, say, a black man accusing an officer of racial profiling because the officer in question was white? In any case, there's more than enough bullshit that comes out of Trump's mouth.



Though let's be fair, he was a democrat in the 90s, and didn't believe in "freedom of association" as many have called it. Which begs the question, is having a "no girls allowed" a valid expression of freedom in what is probably a private country club? I'm not sure.


La Raza is racist and it's followers and supporters should be hung for attempting treason against the USA.


Two pronged attack coming. One is a Latino Advocacy Group which isn't all that extreme, and he's not a part of that La Raza, but of a different La Raza that his spokesperson totally got wrong.
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La means The, Raza means Race.

Even Wikipedia won't point out the fact that it flat out means "The Race" no matter HOW you look it at. La Raza means the exact same thing as Aryan Nationalist, just with a better tan.

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Rujikin wrote:

Racist? Nah this man is anti-discrimination. Actions speak FAR louder than words.


“When Donald opened his club in Palm Beach called Mar-a-Lago, he insisted on accepting Jews and blacks even though other clubs in Palm Beach to this day discriminate against blacks and Jews. The old guard in Palm Beach was outraged that Donald would accept blacks and Jews so that’s the real Donald Trump that I know.”

That was author Ronald Kessler in a July 2015 interview with Newsmax, talking about Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump’s business practices when it came to building a golf course in the Deep South.

In the 1990s, Trump was running into a problem getting his golf course approved by the local town council in Palm Beach, which was imposing restrictions on his bid.

So Trump shot back with maximum effect. As reported by the Washington Post’s Mary Jordan and Rosalind Helderman on Nov. 14, 2015: “Trump undercut his adversaries with a searing attack, claiming that local officials seemed to accept the established private clubs in town that had excluded Jews and blacks while imposing tough rules on his inclusive one.”

The Washington Post report continues, “Trump’s lawyer sent every member of the town council copies of two classic movies about discrimination: ‘A Gentleman’s Agreement,’ about a journalist who pretends to be Jewish to expose anti-Semitism, and ‘Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner’ about a white couple’s reaction to their daughter bringing home a black fiancé.”

Sometimes, in judging the character of an individual, it pays to see what people actually do when nobody’s really paying attention. When it came to segregation in the South at private, all-white country clubs, it might have been in Trump’s business interests to simply look the other way. Instead, Trump did the right thing and insisted on desegregation at his golf resort.

And he won.

Soon thereafter, the local restrictions were lifted and, today, the golf course is open and remains inclusive.

It remains a point of pride for Trump, who boasted about the golf resort in a 2015 interview, “Whether they love me or not, everyone agrees the greatest and most important place in Palm Beach is Mar-a-Lago. I took this ultimate place and made it incredible and opened it, essentially, to the people of Palm Beach. The fact that I owned it made it a lot easier to get along with the Palm Beach establishment.”

At the time in 1997, then-Anti-Defamation League President Abraham Foxman praised Trump for elevating the issue of discrimination at private clubs, telling the Wall Street Journal, “He put the light on Palm Beach. Not on the beauty and the glitter, but on its seamier side of discrimination. It has an impact.” Foxman credited Trump’s move with encouraging other clubs in Palm Beach to do the same as Mar-a-Lago in opening up.

That’s the real Donald Trump. The one who dealt with a real problem to do with discrimination on race and religion in Palm Beach long before he was ever seeking public office by confronting a local planning board over its exclusive policies, determined he would do things differently.

http://truthfeed.com/trump-insisted-on-including-jews-and-blacks-at-palm-beach-golf-course-in-1990s-when-others-didnt/10528/



I guess when he said that judge from Illinois was incapable of being impartial because his family is from Mexico was just a misunderstanding.


You realize that down in Louisiana judges have stock in a large number of oil companies. When lawsuits against BP started they had to reject like 90% of the judges because they owned an interest in those oil companies. If someone has any kind of a personal interest in a case they are not suppose to be the judge because they cannot be fair with a pre-existing opinion.
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Rujikin wrote:

Racist? Nah this man is anti-discrimination. Actions speak FAR louder than words.


Sure, and what do those actions speak of? The fact that Trump had sunk millions of his own money into Mar-a-Largo as a brand new club and knew he was competing against all the other established clubs. And his only possible membership was the 40% or so of Jewish people who lived there. In other words, it had nothing to do with his beliefs or desires, but was a cold blooded business decision. His venture would have failed otherwise.

Now doing the right thing for the wrong reason is not always bad. But considering Trump has a history of going after minorities, I do not see why we should consider it a good thing either.

In any event, one right thing done for the wrong reasons does not change all the other times in the past Trump has made racist or bigoted remarks. http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-racist-meme/

Bottom line? Sure Hillary has problems, but why would anyone want someone who is endorsed by a leader of the KKK, the leader of North Korea, and Putin? I mean, seriously, whether Trump wants those endorsements or not, the fact is his policies and behavior appeals to all of them.



Thats how it should be too. He made a BUSINESS decision instead of letting racism get in the way. He is a BUSINESSMAN so he did what a BUSINESSMAN is suppose to do. He made the right decision for the right reason, after all a business's primary function is to make money. Plus due to him it caused most of the other clubs to change their policy.

Trump can't control who endorses him, however Putin likes him because unlike Hillary he doesn't want to shoot down Russian planes in Syria starting WW3. Hillary can control who she supports and who was her mentor however and she picked a KKK recruiter: http://investmentwatchblog.com/flashback-hillary-clinton-praises-friend-and-mentor-robert-byrd-a-kkk-recruiter/
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