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What the fuck even was this? I think the point might be that, with these new guidelines, the calm person was being abusive. The screaming guy is openly fucking nuts, though.
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That's odd. What state is this? Domestic Abuse, in its totality, is a combination of physical and mental. "Can never recover from the mental side" is because they probably never wanted to get counseling, which is offered depending in the state you live in (Texas does woo Texas!).

Article is full of shit.
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what the f*** happened to equality? f***
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I forgot who said it, but one of my favorite quotes from the internet somewhere is :

"Man up and be a cuckold."
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Posted 8/27/16 , edited 8/27/16
Website is for Australia, so there's the answer to your question.

I agree with these guidelines, though. Most people in abusive relationships are not hit by their partner, but are mentally abused by them.
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This remind me of a school with autistic programs where the Neo-Nazi blackmail some immigrants to sponsor 'black racism' and 'sexism' against autistic white boys. In that school, the Neo-Nazi principle promise to the parents of autistic child that they will stop harassment. When the harassment actually occur against the autistic boys, the teachers claim that 'emotional abuse is do not hurt people' and that the autistic child are 'spoiled for being unable to bear with emotional hurting'. When the autistic child undergo emotional breakdown from intense constant harassment, the teachers punish the autistic child for 'highly unacceptable behaviors'. The principle goes as far as to sent autistic student's parent for a meeting, accuse the autistic child for 'harassment' in front of his parents, claim that 'emotional abuse is worse than physical abuse', and then give the autistic student 'a punishment that is meant for physical abuse' in contrary to the law.
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The guidelines for what constitutes as "abuse" have been stretched beyond recognition.
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Posted 8/27/16 , edited 8/27/16

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NEW domestic violence guidelines designed to help judges and magistrates recognise signs of emotional abuse, not just physical violence, include behaviour such as criticising your partner’s physical appearance and arguing about household chores.


Oh, you have got to be fucking kidding me



Oh, but it gets better!

New "domestic abuse" guidelines and Lautenberg amendment, by our powers combined....

Wait, this is new guidance for *Australia*? Oh, never mind then. They don't have any rights to begin with.
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Wow, just wow. Guess the saying is true. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will domestically abuse me far more worse and leave deeper wounds."
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Emotional abuse is a very real thing, but it is something that should be handled very carefully as it is difficult to handle in criminal courts. If handled correctly, a sensible precedent can (and should) be set, so I wouldn't react to this so loudly until we begin to understand how it will be handled in practice.
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People need to grow up. There will be pain in life, so deal with it...

This is crazy
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You can't do anything right! OH NO I'VE BEEN JUDGEMENTAL! Ah I used all caps! and exclamation marks.
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Posted 8/27/16

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Hrafna wrote:

stop wasting leeks on that!





WTF....fuck her.


As for the law itself...it's good intentions but I'm not really sure how social media and isolation play into dv....that seems a bit sketchy to prove in a trial...
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Posted 8/27/16 , edited 8/27/16

sundin13 wrote:

Emotional abuse is a very real thing, but it is something that should be handled very carefully as it is difficult to handle in criminal courts. If handled correctly, a sensible precedent can (and should) be set, so I wouldn't react to this so loudly until we begin to understand how it will be handled in practice.


pretty much this...but I'm not too sure how it can be used in practice. By this definition, I think a lot of CR would fall into this category, myself included. I mean, everyone gets into fights with their partners and does stuff like this.


I get what they're trying to do, but it's just worded...weird.




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Posted 8/27/16 , edited 8/27/16

Nogara-san wrote:


sundin13 wrote:

Emotional abuse is a very real thing, but it is something that should be handled very carefully as it is difficult to handle in criminal courts. If handled correctly, a sensible precedent can (and should) be set, so I wouldn't react to this so loudly until we begin to understand how it will be handled in practice.


pretty much this...but I'm not too sure how it can be used in practice. By this definition, I think a lot of CR would fall into this category, myself included. I mean, everyone gets into fights with their partners and does stuff like this.


I get what they're trying to do, but it's just worded...weird.


Well, I think you first need to recognize that these are "guidelines designed to help judges and magistrates recognise signs of emotional abuse", not laws. This is meant to educate, so the language is expected to be different than legal language which sets out to make the elements of the crime very clear.

As for "everyone gets into fights", well thats true, but you also have to recognize that there is a big difference between yelling "you're crazy" in a fight and gaslighting someone. Now I don't have the book in front of me, so I'm not sure what it says, but I would be very surprised if it didn't make clear a point where a line is being crossed from "fight" into "emotional abuse".

EDIT: Actually, turns out this is publicly available: http://dfvbenchbook.aija.org.au/contents
I think it makes it pretty clear that the type of thing that constitutes abuse is far beyond the scope of a normal fight.
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