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Post Reply New domestic violence guidelines include ‘social abuse’ such as silent treatment and withholding love
Posted 8/28/16
My buddy kept at hitting on his wifee eventually knocking her teeth out i told her she needed to get help?
Hell i took her to the emergency room! well now he is serving 6mo. term we are no longer friends. I can't tolerate abusers.
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Posted 8/28/16 , edited 8/29/16
lol'd
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Posted 8/28/16

D4nc3Style wrote:
“There are many examples of men monitoring the kilometres on his partner’s car to see if she’s having relationships with people outside the house. She may be cut of financially. You don’t need a black eye for it to be abuse.



Sounds like a troll, or something. He doesn't really need a reason to stop giving his partner money. As long as he never uses physical force on her, she is free to do whatever she wants, and that's all that matters.

Yes, money can sometimes back us into a corner, where we feel like there is no other option but to do something. I get that, even if that will never be a problem for me. However, the best way to fix that is making sure there is a diverse economy that lets people make enough money to support themselves in a variety of ways, so they can choose how they want to contribute and make a living. Just having options means they won't be vulnerable to being manipulated by money in ways they don't like.
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Posted 8/28/16

sundin13 wrote:


Nogara-san wrote:


sundin13 wrote:

Emotional abuse is a very real thing, but it is something that should be handled very carefully as it is difficult to handle in criminal courts. If handled correctly, a sensible precedent can (and should) be set, so I wouldn't react to this so loudly until we begin to understand how it will be handled in practice.


pretty much this...but I'm not too sure how it can be used in practice. By this definition, I think a lot of CR would fall into this category, myself included. I mean, everyone gets into fights with their partners and does stuff like this.


I get what they're trying to do, but it's just worded...weird.


Well, I think you first need to recognize that these are "guidelines designed to help judges and magistrates recognise signs of emotional abuse", not laws. This is meant to educate, so the language is expected to be different than legal language which sets out to make the elements of the crime very clear.

As for "everyone gets into fights", well thats true, but you also have to recognize that there is a big difference between yelling "you're crazy" in a fight and gaslighting someone. Now I don't have the book in front of me, so I'm not sure what it says, but I would be very surprised if it didn't make clear a point where a line is being crossed from "fight" into "emotional abuse".

EDIT: Actually, turns out this is publicly available: http://dfvbenchbook.aija.org.au/contents
I think it makes it pretty clear that the type of thing that constitutes abuse is far beyond the scope of a normal fight.


Oh I understand it's meant to educate judges/magistrates/etc; I can think of a few in the legal profession that could something like this in the States.


I just realized that this is in Australia....

Posted 8/28/16 , edited 8/29/16
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Thank goodness for the progress. Now all we have to do is get the law past so parents are held accountable for not properly burping wiping the butts of their 35 year old babies and we'll have a perfect society...
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Posted 8/28/16 , edited 8/29/16
First they took their guns now they took away all common sense.... Liberals, when will they stop destroying society.
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Straya cunts. Goodness, why in the heaven to you do this to me Australia.
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Posted 8/29/16
Sounds soooo fair, reasonable and well defined.
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Posted 8/29/16
Those things may constitute a legit form of abuse, but if the person is not being held against their will and free to leave at any time, then it's not criminal or subject to legal prosecution. I've walked away and considered it a growing experience in what not to look for in a girl.
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