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Hey, my otaku gamer friends! Quick question. I have always wanted to get into JRPG's, but I've always been intimidated by them. They seem very long and difficult. And the turn based gameplay looks very confusing.I play fighting games competitively, so I'm not used to such slow paced action, but I definitely wanna get into it. All I know is that they are very technical and the story in these games is usually rich. My question is, how do you play these games and enjoy them? Please enlighten me!
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If you'd describe the reason you play fighting games is for the rush, then you could say the reason to play RPGs is for the stories and characters.

Depending on what game you're playing, it usually doesn't take that much skill. Older RPGs, due to low storage capacity at the time, "extended" gameplay by adding elements of chance. You see less of that in modern games, but the model is still there.

For example, a jRPG I'm playing now, Persona 3 FES edition, there are basically two ways to defeat the bosses:


Grind and become over-leveled so that the bosses can barely touch me,

or

Repeatedly challenge them until luck turns out in my favor.


Basically games like these force you to grind because until you hit a certain "sweet spot" in levels, you're pretty much going to be "level-checked", or unable to pass through a stage relatively easily.

On the flip side, take a game like Fire Emblem: Conquest, that has zero opportunities from grinding (outside of DLC), and note that while there is an element of luck in FE games that scale with difficulty (Yes, higher difficulty also strengthens the percentages against you), the main emphasis is using the terrain and maps to your advantage to help overcome the luck barrier.

Basically, depending on the type of game you are playing, you might have to grind; this is just unavoidable, but, if you feel intimidated by the strategic element, remember that with a majority of the games, there is generally much more luck involved than strategy; however, what awaits you past the monotonous grinding stages and occassional bad rolls are stories worth getting told, fun characters, and lots of comedy and suspense.
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So it's more of a playing to unlock more of the world type deal? Or do you really just try to bond with the characters?
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I've always been a fan of them so my perspective is more that of an insider, but I play them largely for the characters and story. Plus, I actually think it's a bonus to have a game/world I want/need to invest some real time into. As a fighting game player (I am as well though not currently at the competitive level), that's something you're probably familiar with though in a slightly different way. JRPGs, just like fighting games, reward time, effort and investment even if in slightly different ways. Also, thankfully, few JRPGs these days require you to spend extra time grinding out experience points or money unless you're looking to do optional things so that element of JRPGs isn't something to be scared of or turned off by any more. The time you spend playing a JRPG now is actually spent playing the game and not just running around in a circle fighting the same enemies for hours on end. Many JRPGs these days don't even have invisible enemy random encounters any more.

If it's the turn based element of JRPGs that bothers you, I would suggest maybe looking into the Star Ocean or Tales Of series of games. Both feature real time combat systems that actually borrow elements from fighting games like combos, chains, launchers, special move cancels, parries, etc. The Tales Of series specifically may be a good place to start given that, for the most part, each game is entirely separate unto itself so you can just pick the one that looks good to you based on characters and story but don't have to worry about getting bogged down in years or decades of backstory and history.

Another option may be something like the Dark Souls games. They're much more action games than JRPGs but they still borrow elements like status effects, equipment choices, etc. that can maybe get you into a JRPG way of thinking without actually playing a JRPG. There's also elements to the Souls games that do click very well with the mind of a fighting game player.
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saiyangainz wrote:

Hey, my otaku gamer friends! Quick question. I have always wanted to get into JRPG's, but I've always been intimidated by them. They seem very long and difficult. And the turn based gameplay looks very confusing.I play fighting games competitively, so I'm not used to such slow paced action, but I definitely wanna get into it. All I know is that they are very technical and the story in these games is usually rich. My question is, how do you play these games and enjoy them? Please enlighten me!


Buy Persona 4 and play it that's all you need know you'll get the hang of it easily and enjoy it immensely.
Or wait and get Persona 5 at the end of the month.
If you wa "JRPG" but not really get Dragon's Dogma it's basicially Capcom trying to make a Western Style RPG but it so heavily JPRPG and really good. It doesn't have turn based combat and it's easy to pick up.

However if anyone wants to start JRPGS in 2016 the best way to start is going to Persona 4 or upcoming P5. Persona 4 isn't very expensive either you can it for $15 now and you'll enjoy the hell out of it other than that it's hard to go wrong with the Dragon Quest series either or Star Ocean 3 (Star Ocean 2 is ok)
IF you want to spend no money you can grab a emulator and load up Chrono Trigger easily considered one of the best games in existence.
There are alot of Great Games but I think Persona 4 or Chrono Trigger would be your best starting point.
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saiyangainz wrote:

So it's more of a playing to unlock more of the world type deal? Or do you really just try to bond with the characters?

Kind of? Really depends in the game. A lot of them are in such a format though, although some allow for revisiting old areas for grinding or having optional areas.

For example, I played Record of Agarest War back when I first started getting into RPGs. Think Mario stage selection. The map was pretty much like that except there were multiple choices for diverging paths for various reasons. However, a big thing with that game was very limited resources and healing opportunities so you had to be extremely careful.

I mentioned Persona 3, earlier, which is nothing like that. That game has pretty much an overworld although it is somewhat limited, but it has a variety of things to do in it.

Look at Shinryu's post though, he mentioned some great games to start from in his middle paragraph.
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StriderShinryu wrote:
If it's the turn based element of JRPGs that bothers you, I would suggest maybe looking into the Star Ocean or Tales Of series of games.

I was going to suggest this but beat my to it ^_^


saiyangainz wrote:
Buy Persona 4 and play it that's all you need know you'll get the hang of it easily and enjoy it immensely.
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I would suggest that if one own a Vita buy P4 Golden. Having played both the vanilla and Golden version of the game I would say Golden is better.

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saiyangainz wrote:
Buy Persona 4 and play it that's all you need know you'll get the hang of it easily and enjoy it immensely.
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I would suggest that if one own a Vita buy P4 Golden. Having played both the vanilla and Golden version of the game I would say Golden is better.



Persona 4, to me, is a sort of dangerous recommendation for someone not already well versed in JRPGs. In battle it relies very heavily on getting typical ingrained JRPG concepts and outside of battle it's almost visual novel esque with an extremely heavy reliance on characters and stylistic flourishes. There's not really much actual world to explore or cool places to see. Chances are, if you're posting on an anime site message board, the visual novel style and extremely stylized presentation won't completely turn you off but it's still a possibility.

If it's your first JRPG, Persona 4 will either make you totally fall in love with the genre (and will probably make many other JRPGs feel lacking in comparison) or it just might turn you off the genre forever.
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StriderShinryu wrote:


Uzumi_Yuki wrote:




saiyangainz wrote:
Buy Persona 4 and play it that's all you need know you'll get the hang of it easily and enjoy it immensely.
.

I would suggest that if one own a Vita buy P4 Golden. Having played both the vanilla and Golden version of the game I would say Golden is better.



Persona 4, to me, is a sort of dangerous recommendation for someone not already well versed in JRPGs. In battle it relies very heavily on getting typical ingrained JRPG concepts and outside of battle it's almost visual novel esque with an extremely heavy reliance on characters and stylistic flourishes. There's not really much actual world to explore or cool places to see. Chances are, if you're posting on an anime site message board, the visual novel style and extremely stylized presentation won't completely turn you off but it's still a possibility.

If it's your first JRPG, Persona 4 will either make you totally fall in love with the genre (and will probably make many other JRPGs feel lacking in comparison) or it just might turn you off the genre forever.

The music makes it all worth it.
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Guess I won't be saying too much but if you wanna try some pretty hard jrpgs then I would recommend Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne or the etrian odyssey series. They're pretty intense to play in my books.
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If you are new to JRPGs I would definitly recomend the Tales of series. Most of the games have a very deep and rewarding combat system, personaly I like the one in Tales of Graces.

Games like Persona, SMT or Dragon Quest are more traditional with turn based battles and often have a lot of RNG in them which some people find anoying. They also require a bit of general RPG knowledge an a lot of planing.

Fire Emblem, FF tactics and Disgaea are slower and more forces you to think about strategy, unit placement and risk/reward scenarios.

Hope this helps.
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The first JRPG i played was (like everyone else's) Kingdom Hearts. It took me instantly it. Probably because of it's gameplay. Several years later, i found Chrono Trigger on DS. I don't why i bought it but i don't regret it. Year later came out Dragon Quest IX (the only game in the franchise i've played) and played it for many hours.

Other JRPG:s i enjoyed to play are such as: FF XIII, Fire Emblem: Awakening (again, the only game, currently) and Tales of Xillia.

If i have guess why i play JRPG:s, mostly because of gameplay, plot, music or something else.
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If you like fighting games you would probably do well with a Tales game as your first JRPG as the actual fights take place in a real-time map with combos and such like a fighting game. There are a lot of really good choices for a variety of systems as well. For the PS3 there is Tales of Xillia 1 and 2, Tales of Zestiria, and Tales of Graces f. Tales of Zestiria is also out for the PS4 and Tales of Besiria is also in the works for that system. The PS2 has Tales of the Abyss, Tales of Legendia, and if you can find it Tales of Symphonia. The Gamecube has Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Symphonia 2 is on the Wii. The XBox 360 has my personal favorite, Tales of Vesperia.

I would not really recommend an Atlus game as your first JRPG experience as they can be quite difficult.
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You guys are seriously so supportive and helpful! I would like to thank you all for helping me. People usually aren't this friendly on the internet.
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