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are you guys doing it?


What, you mean, going to 7-Eleven? Lord, no.

Oh, ohh, you mean the Bernie-tantrum thing and taking votes away from Hillary to give them to Trump? Lord, no.


first, bernies whole platform was ANTI HILLARY, yea, big wall street? that means Hillary. corruption? that means Hillary, we went for Bernie because from the get go we don't. like Hillary and for good reason


so no we are not having a "tantrum"
the ones having a tantrum are the DNC and republicans who don't want trump even though they let him in
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Bernie is the one saying it--and he happens to be right, and I'm saying that as an ex-Bernie voter--and all his little tantrum-lings are calling him a "traitor" for it:
You can have your little public anger of "betrayal" for the movement you thought you were going to have, OR you can have Not Trump for president...Which the HELL do you want? That "third choice"?...Yeah. It's not there anymore.

And if you're seriously going to play the "There's no difference anyway!" card just to stick your tongue out at Ms. Meany-Weany, go back and look at Trump's highlight reel again just for a fresh scare. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.
In fact, now that he's just playing the "I'm rubber and you're glue!" act, and throwing all his own insults back at Hillary, it's possible the Don may have finally run out of scares, but...well, we know he hasn't.
When he asked about the nuclear option at that defense meeting, making him look even more like Martin Sheen from The Dead Zone, we knew Don was an ever-springing well of scares.
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Posted 9/10/16

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Can someone explain what this thread is about? I don't quite get it...

https://www.7election.com/results/ you buy a cup, and the store puts in which one you bought, and nationally it shows essentially who supports who


Ah, well the speak up cup kinda ruins the point of it all...
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Posted 9/10/16

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redokami wrote:


sundin13 wrote:

Can someone explain what this thread is about? I don't quite get it...

https://www.7election.com/results/ you buy a cup, and the store puts in which one you bought, and nationally it shows essentially who supports who


Ah, well the speak up cup kinda ruins the point of it all...


I know right? apparently a third option was wanted since bush
also iowa lmao 0 democrat 67 purple and 33 trump

isn't that where the voter fraud was???
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Posted 9/10/16

redokami wrote:
I know right? apparently a third option was wanted since bush
also iowa lmao 0 democrat 67 purple and 33 trump

isn't that where the voter fraud was???


If so, the cup-tally results will have to be rejected on coffee grounds.



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Sanders is thinking strategically in both the short and long term, and in the short term his objective is to prevent the damage a Trump administration would do to progressive objectives. In order to stage a successful political revolution in the long-term some temporary sacrifices will have to be made even if they are difficult to stomach. Clinton's supreme court picks and policy decisions certainly won't be progressive ones (she's not a progressive), but they will at least be closer to what progressives want than what Trump would do. Clinton would serve as a sort of spacer until either 2020 or 2024 for progressives, at which point enough time should've passed to develop and implement a plan of attack to defeat the centre-right candidate(s) in the primaries those years. In the meantime progressives could test the waters for their strategies and candidates in the 2018 and 2022 midterms. I therefore understand (and agree) with Bernie when he says that progressives should hold their noses, choke back their tears, and pull the lever for Clinton.

At the same time, I understand (and agree) that Clinton's outreach effort to progressives has been visibly halfhearted and dubious from the beginning, and her idiot strategists still can't seem to come to grips with that and are desperately looking for any other reason she's not performing as well as she hypothetically should've been able to (and that Sanders easily could have) against Trump. I understand that her reputation as untrustworthy and corrupt is entirely self-inflicted and well-earned, and so I therefore completely understand why someone might still be a "Bernie or Bust" voter. If Clinton would win over such voters she would be best served to cease trying to run to the centre and throw some meat to her base. Maybe she could get the Democrats to stop fighting Amendment 69 in Colorado, for example. Maybe she could stop fundraising with Goldman Sachs and return any money her campaign has gotten from them. Maybe fire Debbie Wasserman Schultz from her campaign staff. Maybe transition any existing resources into the hands of various charities who could make use of them to fulfill its humanitarian aims and close down the Clinton Foundation entirely. Or hell, maybe just stop berating those progressives who don't support her now as naive, childish, entitled, ignorant, and sexist for doing so and attacking their positions as ridiculous when the policies they've proposed can and have functioned while simultaneously trying to court neocons and donors to the Bush and Romney campaigns.

The only thing I don't understand, really, is a disaffected Bernie Sanders voter protesting specifically by going over to Donald Trump. The two are diametrically opposed in nearly every way, and Trump cannot be trusted to keep his word on any of the things he's saying to court Sanders supporters. It would make more sense to vote for Jill Stein if you can't bring yourself to follow Sanders' strategy and feel you must submit a progressive protest vote. Voting for Donald Trump would be voting to destroy everything Sanders wanted to build. It makes no sense to me. It's politically suicidal.

With all of that said I really don't want to hear it from the Clinton people if she loses in November. It's their bed. They're the ones that made it. And progressives are, for the most part, doing their best to lie in it along with them. They're the ones that had to have a deeply unpopular, widely mistrusted, scandal ridden candidate with a well-known reputation for corruption and bad decision making when a perfectly viable, extremely well-liked, widely trusted candidate with a reputation for looking out for the least among his countrymen and making the right calls years before his peers was available, ready, and willing. Progressives should take no blame for Clinton's failures.
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Posted 9/10/16
Fucking Hillary just blew it anyway with her insulting Trump's fans...so #Harambe2016
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this ike?

[NOPE] I had to crop because reasons


Why would you ever post that?
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this ike?

I had to crop because reasons


I bet Ike has a real big Great Aether
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this ike?

I had to crop because reasons


I bet Ike has a real big Great Aether


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Looks like The Onion/7-11 had some fun with the political landscape info. I mean just look at Idaho, look how weird it is.
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