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Post Reply An era of national unity in the United States?
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Well, I mean the name "United States" already shows we're united.


Its only "United States" because the full name "United In Lingering Resentment For One Another Across Political Lines States" is too long to fit on a map.


What a joke post.
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MonoDreams wrote:


runec wrote:


MonoDreams wrote:
Well, I mean the name "United States" already shows we're united.


Its only "United States" because the full name "United In Lingering Resentment For One Another Across Political Lines States" is too long to fit on a map.


What a joke post.


....yes, that was sort of the point. -.-

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Nightblade370 wrote:

I'm mostly asking this question as I don't quite know the answer: there are quite a few arguments saying that there have been eras where we, as a nation, have banded together for one reason or another. Other arguments poke holes in that kind of thinking and declare that the United States has never experienced national unity. I doubt the answer is, in any way, a simple black or white one, but I'm curious as to what people here have to say.


The last time I've seen this country united was right after 9/11.


We're too divided nowadays, and I think it's gonna stay this way for a long, long time...
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The Early Days, namely like 1792-1812 we seemed pretty unified. There was squabbling among the Federalists and the Democratic Republicans but it was over some minor issues and once Jefferson was elected it died down pretty fast.

The Era of Good feelings, about 1816-1840ish was good too. There were signs of troubles ahead on the slavery issue near the end but there was one major political party, no major foreign wars, and things were good for the most part.

The 1870 to 1910 period may be called rather peaceful. There was the brief but popular Spanish-American War. Reconstruction gradually ended and reintegrated the defeated South into the United States. Initially blacks made great strides and while these advances were gradually eroded in the south on the national level there was little strife. Like with the South there was a growing political divide between the rich and poor in the North the lives of most people were improving so there weren't many big incidents outside of the Homestead Riots. Even these incidents led to the establishment of unions. There was widespread political corruption in the big cities that was seen as local problems. This may have been alleviated by the large numbers of immigrants coming to the country being so diverse that in and of itself that this inherent divisiveness led to strange national unity as the idea of the United States was one of the few things that these people actually had in common.

World War 2 was a period of national unity. Not being the aggressor, fighting a clearly evil foe, and with clear moral and military objectives, the United States was probably more unified than ever.

Arguably, the 1972 almost unanimous election of Richard Nixon seems to indicate that at the moment Tricky Dick brought us all together. Whether it is his ending of US involvement in Vietnam, the SALT accord, the moon landing, or some combination of the three is unknown but were it not for Watergate I think Nixon would have a better reputation than he does today,

Likewise the US was pretty unified in the 80's and 90's. Reagan won the 1984 election with a nearly unanimously as well. The economy was getting better for everyone. Then in the 90's the Cold War was over, the threat os Islamic terrorism was present, but not worrisome. There were some small issues that made it to big issues. Then the Clinton Scandals started coming out, breaking things up. Then the infamous 2000 election happened.

Briefly the US was united again after the 9/11 terror attack but that was ended pretty soon in the US invasion of Iraq.

But things seem to go in cycles in the United States. There will be something that divides us, we fight over it for a couple decades, then we calm down and get back to getting along.
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After Pearl Harbor and 9/11 America was at its most united. Bush even managed to get a 92% approval rating.
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"Yesterday, December 7th, 1941 -- a date which will live in infamy -- the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan." - Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Our national unity after that day must have been the strongest it's ever been in American history.
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National unity will always be an illusion while the populace will be completely interested yet ignorant. I'll say the majority will be seemly "united" but divided till we as a populace become involved with what is the situation and actually take the time to become involved and informed in what is happening.
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WWII would obviously be the most recent height of widespread patriotism. Hell children were running around finding scrap metal to help the Allies fight the good fight, all of society was involved, the future of our country depended on it.
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i think it happened during WWII


I think the Japanese-Americans would disagree.
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brookline wrote:

we need economic unity between black and white americans.


Racist! We have economic unity between two hard working african or european descended people who have equal skills. Are you trying to imply that blacks are somehow disadvantaged?


octorockandroll wrote:


bolt62 wrote:

i think it happened during WWII


I think the Japanese-Americans would disagree.


Italian and Germans as well.
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i don't know what kind of black people you're around, but in the town where i live they don't act like that. they are the complete opposite.
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Rujikin wrote:


brookline wrote:

we need economic unity between black and white americans.


Racist! We have economic unity between two hard working african or european descended people who have equal skills. Are you trying to imply that blacks are somehow disadvantaged?


octorockandroll wrote:


bolt62 wrote:

i think it happened during WWII


I think the Japanese-Americans would disagree.


Italian and Germans as well.


economic unity is needed. just look at the economy. more and more communities are turning into white ghettos. they have high unemployment, poverty, poor schools, drugs, and violence. more whites are dying young from drugs.

Blacks and whites need to join together to fight against jobs and money being being taken out the country so both can have better economic opportunities. If blacks and whites don't unify and allow themselves to divided by race baiters and bigots we're going to get drowned by globalism. America will become a legend or myth.

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brookline wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


brookline wrote:

we need economic unity between black and white americans.


Racist! We have economic unity between two hard working african or european descended people who have equal skills. Are you trying to imply that blacks are somehow disadvantaged?


octorockandroll wrote:


bolt62 wrote:

i think it happened during WWII


I think the Japanese-Americans would disagree.


Italian and Germans as well.


economic unity is needed. just look at the economy. more and more communities are turning into white ghettos. they have high unemployment, poverty, poor schools, drugs, and violence. more whites are dying young from drugs.

Blacks and whites need to join together to fight against jobs and money being being taken out the country so both can have better economic opportunities. If blacks and whites don't unify and allow themselves to divided by race baiters and bigots we're going to get drowned by globalism. America will become a legend or myth.



You mean the cities are cesspools? I don't see that happening around where I live except in the former industrial cities that lost all their industry to China. We could start by fighting back against China and all countries that avoid our environmental fees, worker safety costs, and other costs that ensure our people work decently.

Poor yellows and reds always being forgotten... We just need to bring industry BACK here instead of trying to be buddies with countries waging economic wars against us.
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Factories actually have been coming back to America due to rising wages internationally and to make supply chains shorter. In fact, manufacturing has increased 20% since the recession ended. However, manufacturing jobs have only increased by 5-6% in that time. The reason is simple: automation in manufacturing (which is higher in newer factories) lowers the need for large amounts of people when you are making large amounts of products.

Ultimately speaking, no matter how much you wish otherwise, manufacturing jobs aren't going to come back to the levels they were at in the 90s, not just because of trade deals (though most of the damage was done not by any trade deal such as NAFTA, but by China joining the World Trade Organization), but because the evolving landscape of manufacturing doesn't require as many jobs as in previous years.
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