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Post Reply Should Anime get rid of fan service to appeal to western society
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I didn't realize that we of the western society are not fond of fan service. Sure some people are averse to it while others are not. Even if there is an aversion, is that a reason to get rid of it? That's a move towards limiting content; which is a direction that usually sucks. Somewhat brought up the junk food analogy. While I rarely eat junk food, I'd be pretty pissed if I can't have a Kit Kat every now and then. Also, fan service is a pretty broad term. Seems like a lot here are specifically complaining sexual fan service.

Is this even a big issue? From this season alone, I'm watching 26 shows. Of the 26 shows, 2 have some or significant sexual fan service and 1 has severe sexual fan service (Hybrid X Hearts). I probably should've dropped Hybrid X Hearts awhile ago, but the absurdity of the situations and censorship methods have become too hilarious to not check out.

Posted 9/15/16 , edited 9/15/16
If they want to appeal to a Western audience, they'd have to make it in English, the names have to be westernized, which is never going to happen. Western audience don't like to read subs or familiarize themselves with foreign names that aren't European.

The setting will have to be completely different and the jokes would have to have a Western origin. In other words, it would no longer be anime.
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I can't think of this topic without thinking of Heavy Metal (magazine and the two movies). Fan service is looked down on in western society indeed. PEH.
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cdarklock wrote:

If you personally can't get past the part where WE CAN SEE THEIR PANTSU, that is a problem for you personally and does not actually make the scene trash. You're just weird and have hangups.


Yeah, not wanting to see high schoolers' underwear when high scholers look like little kids means you're weird.

And camera angle can make or break a scene. If you misuse a dramatic camera angle, it can make the scene ridiculous and ruin it.

At some point fanservice can break a scene's ability to be serious. The same as someone randomly wearing a duck suit will ruin a dramatic scene. If it's too absurd, no one will take it seriously and the director has failed if comedy wasn't the goal.
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LokiLB wrote:

Yeah, not wanting to see high schoolers' underwear when high scholers look like little kids means you're weird.


No. NOT BEING ABLE TO GET PAST IT makes you weird. If you are so captivated and controlled by the sight of a little girl's underpants that you are unable to appreciate the rest of the scene, you should probably talk to someone about that.
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Well, the western audience are always going to think anime is weird regardless. It's a cartoon w/ Japanese voice actors consisting of high pitched women and overly dramatic men (not counting the dubs if an anime even gets one). Whatever the west thinks of Japan, they don't care one bit. The Japanese audience are a lot different than us, things are a lot more open minded over there than over here. Now, as far as my personal feelings go, I could live w/o it. Ecchi scenes really turns me off for the most part, especially if they're trying to be cute or funny. I don't find any of that funny nor cute. Shows like Heaven's Lost Property or Highschool DxD are obviously for one type of demographic only, and I tend to stay away from those type of shows. All in all, if Japan wants these types of shows, that's what we're going to keep getting, as unfortunate as that may sound. I personally feel like Japan should give more chances to these underground writers who are actually trying to write a compelling and deep story, but hey, that's just me.

I've been loving The Promised Neverland and My Hero Academia a lot, so glad they got renewed
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Ethnocentrism?
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Nah, some fanservice anime could be good. Also, if everyone could not be a crybaby bitch, this wouldn't even be a question. The Japanese made it for the Japanese primarily anyways, they shouldn't have to do anything with their own work to make it fit for us.
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Posted 9/15/16

cdarklock wrote:


LokiLB wrote:

Yeah, not wanting to see high schoolers' underwear when high scholers look like little kids means you're weird.


No. NOT BEING ABLE TO GET PAST IT makes you weird. If you are so captivated and controlled by the sight of a little girl's underpants that you are unable to appreciate the rest of the scene, you should probably talk to someone about that.


That entirely depends on the scene. It can be done in such an obnoxious way that it's hard to notice anything else.
Granted that is not the norm. Usually it's not a scene stealing event.
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Sex sells no matter what the medium. In Japan, it's apparently fanservice ecchi.

As Westerners, we have no damn right to tell Japan how to package their entertainment.
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Posted 9/15/16 , edited 9/15/16
I certainly don't think so. As people in Western societies (inasmuch as the term means something, because "the West" isn't a monolith even if its constituents do have many common roots) we are already completely inundated in works that are specifically designed to appeal to our societies' mores, customs, traditions, and so forth. We already have a range of options if we want to watch, read, or listen to such things. It would be a terrible shame to limit ourselves exclusively to works that do this, because doing so would deny us any opportunity for introspection and deprive us of any information about the world beyond our doorstep. If we demand that anime be changed to accommodate us we will in the process take away what anime had to teach us about ourselves and others. There can be artistic merit and/or useful information in even the strangest places, and fan service is no exception.
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Not gonna happen but keep wishing it though.
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I would say it doesn't need to be done for any particular society but more as a basic sense of decency/sensibility that isn't attached to anywhere. I watch anime for story and characters, not to see T&A. That being said I wouldn't get rid of it as a whole, I would however get rid of the abuse of it and in regards to certain shows would move them into a straight up "hentai" category instead. There's an entire list of issues I have with anime that have less to do with being "Western" and more to do with being a decent person. Fortunately things like RWBY show its possible to do anime that isn't burdened by the usual b.s. and may actually move the dial away from fanservice overload.
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gornotck wrote:


augus0 wrote:

Before we start worrying about that, Americans need to start gaining back some attention span, since we already a joke for.....well how do you say stupid in a nice way ?


"The EU".
well played you have my respect

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Fawck you mean!?! Get rid of the fan service? Why not just avoid those types of anime's instead of complaining about it then making the cast working on the show have to work even harder to please a couple of people? Not that I really care, I just really like to let creative people be creative without boundaries.
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