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Xxanthar wrote:

Sorry, I'm not quoting that mess.

here is what you said:

His ideas are flawed and you are sounding like an idiot :D

You were not referring to trump.

How can I make this clear to you...

Do you not understand that trump is not trying to stop LEGAL immigration?

We are not surrounded by water like you. We have borders and millions of people cross them ILLEGALLY.
We have hundreds of thousands who overstay their visa ILLEGALLY
This is what trump want's to stop. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION


Didn't Trump want to stop all muslims from immigrating? Because that seems like someone trying to stop legal immigration to me. It also seems pretty fucking stupid.


Muslims from these war torn regions that have sleeper cells hiding among them. Pretty much just avoiding anything that has ISIS.
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octorockandroll wrote:


Xxanthar wrote:

Sorry, I'm not quoting that mess.

here is what you said:

His ideas are flawed and you are sounding like an idiot :D

You were not referring to trump.

How can I make this clear to you...

Do you not understand that trump is not trying to stop LEGAL immigration?

We are not surrounded by water like you. We have borders and millions of people cross them ILLEGALLY.
We have hundreds of thousands who overstay their visa ILLEGALLY
This is what trump want's to stop. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION


Didn't Trump want to stop all muslims from immigrating? Because that seems like someone trying to stop legal immigration to me. It also seems pretty fucking stupid.


Muslims from these war torn regions that have sleeper cells hiding among them. Pretty much just avoiding anything that has ISIS.


That's not what Trump said

"Total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the United States"
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Posted 9/16/16 , edited 9/16/16

octorockandroll wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


Xxanthar wrote:

Sorry, I'm not quoting that mess.

here is what you said:

His ideas are flawed and you are sounding like an idiot :D

You were not referring to trump.

How can I make this clear to you...

Do you not understand that trump is not trying to stop LEGAL immigration?

We are not surrounded by water like you. We have borders and millions of people cross them ILLEGALLY.
We have hundreds of thousands who overstay their visa ILLEGALLY
This is what trump want's to stop. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION


Didn't Trump want to stop all muslims from immigrating? Because that seems like someone trying to stop legal immigration to me. It also seems pretty fucking stupid.


Muslims from these war torn regions that have sleeper cells hiding among them. Pretty much just avoiding anything that has ISIS.


That's not what Trump said

"Total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the United States"


What he said was that he wanted to temporarily stop muslim immigration until we have a proper system in place to see if they have a criminal past or radical ties.

The MEDIA said that he wants to ban all muslims, because they like to stir up over-emotional fools.

This is what happens when you get your news from one sentence articles from the trending news section on Fakebook.

And again, you are not American. you have no say who we elect. I don't tell you canadians who to vote for, so go stick your head in a burlap sack with a badger.
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Posted 9/16/16

Xxanthar wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


Xxanthar wrote:

Sorry, I'm not quoting that mess.

here is what you said:

His ideas are flawed and you are sounding like an idiot :D

You were not referring to trump.

How can I make this clear to you...

Do you not understand that trump is not trying to stop LEGAL immigration?

We are not surrounded by water like you. We have borders and millions of people cross them ILLEGALLY.
We have hundreds of thousands who overstay their visa ILLEGALLY
This is what trump want's to stop. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION


Didn't Trump want to stop all muslims from immigrating? Because that seems like someone trying to stop legal immigration to me. It also seems pretty fucking stupid.


Muslims from these war torn regions that have sleeper cells hiding among them. Pretty much just avoiding anything that has ISIS.


That's not what Trump said

"Total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the United States"


What he said was that he wanted to temporarily stop muslim immigration until we have a proper system in place to see if they have a criminal past or radical ties.

The MEDIA said that he wants to ban all muslims, because they like to stir up over-emotional fools.

This is what happens when you get your news from one sentence articles from the trending news section on Fakebook.


I don't get my news from facebook, but regardless, that is still Trump trying to stop legal immigration and ban muslims from coming to america. Stop acting like the media is the bad guy for pointing out why your shitty leader's shitty ideas are shit.
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Forget about elections in the USA. Canadians should take up a collection and pay the USA for 50+ years of defense. Most of Europe, Japan, Philippines, South Korea and Australia should pay up as well.
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octorockandroll wrote:

I don't get my news from facebook, but regardless, that is still Trump trying to stop legal immigration and ban muslims from coming to america. Stop acting like the media is the bad guy for pointing out why your shitty leader's shitty ideas are shit.


His comment was not even about muslim immigrants it was about the refugees from Syria. I can tell you are just skimming headlines because everything you have said has been false.

edit: PS he is not even a leader yet. He is a candidate.

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Xxanthar wrote:
What he said was that he wanted to temporarily stop muslim immigration until we have a proper system in place to see if they have a criminal past or radical ties.

The MEDIA said that he wants to ban all muslims, because they like to stir up over-emotional fools.

This is what happens when you get your news from one sentence articles from the trending news section on Fakebook.

And again, you are not American. you have no say who we elect. I don't tell you canadians who to vote for, so go stick your head in a burlap sack with a badger.


"No, he didn't say a complete and total ban on muslims, he just said a complete and total ban on muslims!"

"Temporarily stopping muslim immigration" is the same thing as a "complete and total ban on muslims". I don't know why you are trying to argue this when you pretty clearly know that it is the truth.

And here is the quote right from his website: " Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." (EDIT: Oh, and btw, there is already a system in place for screening refugees, which Trump has repeatedly lied about)

The "total and complete" line is directly from his mouth and yes, it does refer to all muslims, not just Syrian refugees.

And it doesn't matter if someone is American. You don't need to be to discuss politics in any area. There were plenty of Americans around these parts discussing Brexit and you even chimed in with your opinion a few times. Quit trying to silence people who disagree with you.
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"No, he didn't say a complete and total ban on muslims, he just said a complete and total ban on muslims!"

"Temporarily stopping muslim immigration" is the same thing as a "complete and total ban on muslims". I don't know why you are trying to argue this when you pretty clearly know that it is the truth.

And here is the quote right from his website: " Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on."

The "total and complete" line is directly from his mouth and yes, it does refer to all muslims, not just Syrian refugees.

And it doesn't matter if someone is American. You don't need to be to discuss politics in any area. There were plenty of Americans around these parts discussing Brexit and you even chimed in with your opinion a few times. Quit trying to silence people who disagree with you.





Again, he said a TEMPORARY ban. I also did not say he should shut up, but rather what I felt that he should do, which is to place he head in a burlap sack with a badger. I now suggest that he should get a larger burlap sack so that the two of you can enjoy the experience together.

Oh, and it turned out I was right on Brexit after all right?
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Xxanthar wrote:
Forget about elections in the USA. Canadians should take up a collection and pay the USA for 50+ years of defense. Most of Europe, Japan, Philippines, South Korea and Australia should pay up as well.


Sure, if you guys start up a collection to pay for the sheer amount of damage you've done to the Middle East and Asia the past 50 years. Oh, and throw in some reparations for sinking the global economy because you can't regulate yourselves. =p



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What he said was that he wanted to temporarily stop muslim immigration until we have a proper system in place to see if they have a criminal past or radical ties.


You do have a proper system in place. But Trump has no fucking idea how it or anything else works.



Xxanthar wrote:And again, you are not American. you have no say who we elect. I don't tell you canadians who to vote for, so go stick your head in a burlap sack with a badger.


Given the sheer amount of damage you guys can and have caused to the world we do damn well have a say in who you elect. Especially right now when some of you are seriously considering electing quite possibly the least qualified candidate in history that is treating your politics like a reality TV show.

If you're going to be the most powerful nation on Earth the least you could do is not act like a monkey with a hand grenade.
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Posted 9/16/16

Xxanthar wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

I don't get my news from facebook, but regardless, that is still Trump trying to stop legal immigration and ban muslims from coming to america. Stop acting like the media is the bad guy for pointing out why your shitty leader's shitty ideas are shit.


His comment was not even about muslim immigrants it was about the refugees from Syria. I can tell you are just skimming headlines because everything you have said has been false.



"a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States"

Please tell me how that statement refers only to Syrian refugees. Bonus points of you explain why a comment, which (if I recall correctly) was in response to a terrorist attack perpetrated by a guy born in Illinois, would be talking about people from Syria spwcifically. And seeing as you won't stop throwing that headline bullshit around, may I remind you once again that what you are describing is still Trump trying to stop legal immigration.
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Xxanthar wrote:
Forget about elections in the USA. Canadians should take up a collection and pay the USA for 50+ years of defense. Most of Europe, Japan, Philippines, South Korea and Australia should pay up as well.


Sure, if you guys start up a collection to pay for the sheer amount of damage you've done to the Middle East and Asia the past 50 years. Oh, and throw in some reparations for sinking the global economy because you can't regulate yourselves. =p



Xxanthar wrote:
What he said was that he wanted to temporarily stop muslim immigration until we have a proper system in place to see if they have a criminal past or radical ties.


You do have a proper system in place. But Trump has no fucking idea how it or anything else works.



Xxanthar wrote:And again, you are not American. you have no say who we elect. I don't tell you canadians who to vote for, so go stick your head in a burlap sack with a badger.


Given the sheer amount of damage you guys can and have caused to the world we do damn well have a say in who you elect. Especially right now when some of you are seriously considering electing quite possibly the least qualified candidate in history that is treating your politics like a reality TV show.

If you're going to be the most powerful nation on Earth the least you could do is not act like a monkey with a hand grenade.


We tend to get overly excited when someone flies full airplanes full of people into buildings full of people. Please excuse us. Sounds like you should join Isis with your level of hate.

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Xxanthar wrote:


Again, he said a TEMPORARY ban. I also did not say he should shut up, but rather what I felt that he should do, which is to place he head in a burlap sack with a badger. I now suggest that he should get a larger burlap sack so that the two of you can enjoy the experience together.

Oh, and it turned out I was right on Brexit after all right?


Doesn't matter if its temporary. Nobody else said anything about the length of time this "complete and total shutdown" would last for, so you can't exactly correct them. The fact is, he is calling for a complete and total ban which would probably last at least a couple of years. You can't say that Trump isn't calling for changes to legal immigration. Especially when you've ignored several of my posts which say pretty clearly that Trump actually wants a ban on ALL LEGAL IMMIGRATION for a minimum of one to two years.

And it doesn't matter if you were "right on Brexit" (what does that even mean? We haven't even seen the real effects of it because the UK hasn't even left yet. How can you be right before we see the results?). It matters that you are telling non-Americans to but out of "your" politics, while you seem to have no problem butting into European politics.
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Posted 9/16/16

octorockandroll wrote:


Xxanthar wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

I don't get my news from facebook, but regardless, that is still Trump trying to stop legal immigration and ban muslims from coming to america. Stop acting like the media is the bad guy for pointing out why your shitty leader's shitty ideas are shit.


His comment was not even about muslim immigrants it was about the refugees from Syria. I can tell you are just skimming headlines because everything you have said has been false.



"a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States"

Please tell me how that statement refers only to Syrian refugees. Bonus points of you explain why a comment, which (if I recall correctly) was in response to a terrorist attack perpetrated by a guy born in Illinois, would be talking about people from Syria spwcifically. And seeing as you won't stop throwing that headline bullshit around, may I remind you once again that what you are describing is still Trump trying to stop legal immigration.


I can't explain to you why one incomplete quote, taken with no context at all is not accurate. That falls into the realm of common sense.
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