First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  Next  Last
Post Reply CR: What's the point of User reviews on this site when so many are downvoted into oblivion?
12047 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
53 / M
Offline
Posted 9/18/16

Lemontitties wrote:
Just look at Berserk 2016 for example. If we were to take a moment, sit down and analyze the entire first season that just recently ended from an objective standpoint, it really wasn't that great of an adaptation to the hit manga in Japan. However, you have over 100 5 star reviews in the review section on this website


If you don't understand the difference between "rating/reviewing the anime" and "rating it on whether or not it was a great adaptation" - no offense, but you really don't understand the meaning of the words "objective".


28685 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
22 / M / United States
Offline
Posted 9/18/16

Derekl1963 wrote:


If you don't understand the difference between "rating/reviewing the anime" and "rating it on whether or not it was a great adaptation" - no offense, but you really don't understand the meaning of the words "objective".


If the anime doesn't do a good job adapting its source material or have any good directing/pacing coupled w/ bad animation, then it's not a good adaptation nor is it even a good anime. I know perfectly well what objective means. It's what most of the fanboys lack in the couple examples I've given.
8268 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
37 / M / SW Ontario, Canada
Offline
Posted 9/18/16 , edited 9/18/16

-CLICK- wrote:


Hmm..... I haven't been in the User Reviews section for quite sometime now, and what puts me off was one main reason ----- there'd be reviews posted by users after watchin' only a few episodes and not the entirety.


This is exactly why I pay no attention at all to the user reviews on this site. Positive or negative, upvoted or whatever, none of it matters when the entire system is pointless. If I'm looking for a general opinion on a series I'll just pop into that series discussion thread on the forums to see what the general tone of discussion is.

You certainly don't have to watch an entire season to determine what your own personal opinion of a show is, or at least if you're going to bother watching an extended amount of it, but you should never be able to submit an actual review until you've seen it all (and CR does already track that as long as you're logged in while watching so it's not even a big ask).
19132 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 9/18/16
CR has user reviews?
61159 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
27 / M
Online
Posted 9/18/16

StriderShinryu wrote:


-CLICK- wrote:


Hmm..... I haven't been in the User Reviews section for quite sometime now, and what puts me off was one main reason ----- there'd be reviews posted by users after watchin' only a few episodes and not the entirety.


This is exactly why I pay no attention at all to the user reviews on this site. Positive or negative, upvoted or whatever, none of it matters when the entire system is pointless. If I'm looking for a general opinion on a series I'll just pop into that series discussion thread on the forums to see what the general tone of discussion is.

You certainly don't have to watch an entire season to determine what your own personal opinion of a show is, or at least if you're going to bother watching an extended amount of it, but you should never be able to submit an actual review until you've seen it all (and CR does already track that as long as you're logged in while watching so it's not even a big ask).


Shows like Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash were recently added to the catalog from the Funimation merger. As far as Crunchyroll knows I never watched it. Are you saying I should be restricted from reviewing until I watch it again? That question also goes for older shows that are added to the catalog long after their initial release as well as really any show that is available to be viewed from another source.

I do agree that the reviews here are generally pretty worthless. I think the fundamental reason is because the barrier to entry is too low. This site has basically merged ratings and reviews together into one section. In order to contribute to the overall rating score, you have to write some kind of blurb to go along with it. I think it's reasonable to assume that most people who use the feature probably aren't driven to invest the time and effort to write a decent review. And there's no way they can fix it through moderation because they'd be attacking the users' ability to contribute to the overall rating score.

However, I wouldn't go so far as to say the problem is systemic. If I were to venture a guess, a simple cost-benefit analysis probably indicates that it's not worth investing the resources to maintain a proper section for reviews. I think that's perfectly fine, especially considering Crunchyroll more or less partnered up with Anime-Planet a couple years ago.
8268 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
37 / M / SW Ontario, Canada
Offline
Posted 9/18/16

staphen wrote:


StriderShinryu wrote:


-CLICK- wrote:


Hmm..... I haven't been in the User Reviews section for quite sometime now, and what puts me off was one main reason ----- there'd be reviews posted by users after watchin' only a few episodes and not the entirety.




Shows like Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash were recently added to the catalog from the Funimation merger. As far as Crunchyroll knows I never watched it. Are you saying I should be restricted from reviewing until I watch it again? That question also goes for older shows that are added to the catalog long after their initial release as well as really any show that is available to be viewed from another source.
.


I'd be in the exact same boat with Grimgar as I watched it (and loved it) on Funi as well. But frankly, yes. If you feel the need to post a review of a series that falls under that sort of criteria, there are other places to post it. It's certainly not a perfect system but it would be better than what we have now and there could be other work arounds put in place. Maybe you should have to have at least been flagged as watching several minutes of each episode. Maybe the entire series should at least have to have been uploaded and viewable before any reviews at all are accepted. Maybe any reviews could be entered by anyone at any time but some sort of "Verified" status should be put in place and the reviews should be sorted and maybe even weighted according to that status. Etc.

Right now, though, the system is completely useless and the simplest system to put in place would be to only let those who have completed watching the entire series on CR enter a review even if that means some people (myself included) would not be able to enter reviews on things they actually had watched via some other source.

1080 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
25 / M
Offline
Posted 9/18/16
In my opinion, the bottom line is that it's going to be really hard to make a system where user reviews are really helpful for any kind of media. People have different tastes, so unless the review is well written and detailed enough, that fact that someone else liked or disliked a show is not going to tell me much. If you're going through user reviews on CR trying to find the best ones, at that point it probably makes more sense to just visit a review website or blog.

It does make sense to have some sort of requirement to have watched the show though. I can't imagine that adding that would have anything but a positive effect on the overall quality of the reviews.
11815 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
47 / M / Auburn, Washington
Offline
Posted 9/18/16

I-Crypt-I wrote:

Some fans of their shows cannot take any criticism of it and will mark any review lower-scored than theirs as unhelpful.


How does a negative review help anyone?

Seriously, I don't see how it could. You go to look at reviews, because you are trying to find a show you will like. If a review says you will NOT like a show, it does not get you any closer to a show you WILL like. It does not help at all.
1080 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
25 / M
Offline
Posted 9/18/16

cdarklock wrote:


I-Crypt-I wrote:

Some fans of their shows cannot take any criticism of it and will mark any review lower-scored than theirs as unhelpful.


How does a negative review help anyone?

Seriously, I don't see how it could. You go to look at reviews, because you are trying to find a show you will like. If a review says you will NOT like a show, it does not get you any closer to a show you WILL like. It does not help at all.


To be fair, I don't think that's completely true. You get closer to an anime that you will like by process of elimination. If you're trying to choose between a couple shows that you think you might be interested in, a negative review can help narrow it down.
11815 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
47 / M / Auburn, Washington
Offline
Posted 9/18/16

Helix91 wrote:

To be fair, I don't think that's completely true.


Is it possible? Yeah. Does it happen? I really don't think so.

Primarily because the opinions of people we don't know carry very little weight, and NEGATIVE opinions carry even less.
17735 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
55 / M /
Offline
Posted 9/18/16

cdarklock wrote:

Primarily because the opinions of people we don't know carry very little weight, and NEGATIVE opinions carry even less.


I agree with you, but the big exception to the rule is WHO makes the review. If it is somebody whose judgement I have come to respect I will give it more weight. I've learned to my regret to read both the positive and negative reviews on amazon esp. if it is something that you wear. I bought several blue tooth headphones that were one size fits most and weren't.
1080 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
25 / M
Offline
Posted 9/18/16

Gafennec wrote:


cdarklock wrote:

Primarily because the opinions of people we don't know carry very little weight, and NEGATIVE opinions carry even less.


I agree with you, but the big exception to the rule is WHO makes the review. If it is somebody whose judgement I have come to respect I will give it more weight. I've learned to my regret to read both the positive and negative reviews on amazon esp. if it is something that you wear. I bought several blue tooth headphones that were one size fits most and weren't.


I agree with this, and I made a point similar in an earlier post. I don't put much stock in how many stars a show has or what a few random reviews say, and most other people probably don't. Well written and thoughtful reviews, especially those by someone that I know, are definitely the most useful.
61159 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
27 / M
Online
Posted 9/18/16

cdarklock wrote:


I-Crypt-I wrote:

Some fans of their shows cannot take any criticism of it and will mark any review lower-scored than theirs as unhelpful.


How does a negative review help anyone?

Seriously, I don't see how it could. You go to look at reviews, because you are trying to find a show you will like. If a review says you will NOT like a show, it does not get you any closer to a show you WILL like. It does not help at all.


I think it entirely depends on what information is contained in the review. If your thinking aligns with the reasons the reviewer gave for disliking the show, then you may come to the conclusion that you will probably not like the show. Of course, the same logic applies to positive reviews. If, on the other hand, your thinking doesn't align with any reviews then you may come to a conclusion based solely on the premise of the show. This could lead to you watching a show you wouldn't like which is what reading the reviews is supposed to help you avoid.
17735 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
55 / M /
Offline
Posted 9/18/16 , edited 9/18/16

Helix91 wrote:

I agree with this, and I made a point similar in an earlier post. I don't put much stock in how many stars a show has or what a few random reviews say, and most other people probably don't. Well written and thoughtful reviews, especially those by someone that I know, are definitely the most useful.


I just jumped into this thread and I agree with you too. I completely agree that for the review to be useful it should thoughtful, communicated so that intent and meaning are clear but I can forgive reviews by people for whom English is a 2nd language or, like me, dealing with real brain damage. I know I could never write a positive review of Yosuga no Sora: In Solitude Where We are Least Alone since I hate the show so much. But just looking at the reviews just now...I worry about some of the users here. Just kidding..different strokes for different folks.
15778 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
37 / M / Virginia USA
Online
Posted 9/19/16
My problem with user reviews are people who watch one episode of a show and hate it then feel the need to drop one star "reviews" and go on and on about how bad a show is.

How about you let people who actually do finish the show take care of that?

One episode is not content enough to leave a true review.
First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  Next  Last
You must be logged in to post.