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kiltmaker wrote:

I wonder if this is why they used to have arranged marriages?


would say your idea is probably one of the reasons behind the practice.
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we went from "virgins are pure and blameless" to "what you're a virgin lolol u suck and so does ur life"

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Damn waifus and husbandos.
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Probably has a lot to do with a lack of work/life balance and family and societal pressures which cause many to never develop normal social interactions. I'd love to visit Japan, but from what I heard the lifestyle their pushes perfection to the point where people break. (Think Hikigamoris, children going to cram school after regular school, insane salary person workweeks, etc.)
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I don't understand why virginity matters if they're trying to provide incentives for marriage and child rearing. Being a virgin shouldn't affect whether you desire to marry or start a family. It's just an old fashioned notion of purity.


Do we really have to explain the process behind procreation..I mean it's not rocket science to understand for pregnancy to happen there has to be sexual and unprotected intercourse between two individuals of the opposite gender. I mean there has only been one case of a virgin birth and some people doubt even the validity of that.
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See this is what happens when you create a society the way Japan has. It's just more proof the Asian way of doing things is just plain wrong.


care to explain what you mean?
just being curious.


Japan, China, Korea, Thailand. the entirety of Asia has always one that placed professional life before personal. That's all fine and dandy to a point. But at some point you have to learn to live for yourself. Being a mindless machine after all is not good for anyone let alone a society at large.
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Kitahoshi_Hazel wrote:

I don't understand why virginity matters if they're trying to provide incentives for marriage and child rearing. Being a virgin shouldn't affect whether you desire to marry or start a family. It's just an old fashioned notion of purity.


Do we really have to explain the process behind procreation..I mean it's not rocket science to understand for pregnancy to happen there has to be sexual and unprotected intercourse between two individuals of the opposite gender. I mean there has only been one case of a virgin birth and some people doubt even the validity of that.


Perhaps it doesn't matter all that much, although the polar opposite of unrestricted promiscuity brings plenty of consequences.

I think a good part of the problem is the difference in age between biological and traditional maturity vs when one reaches full adulthood. Due to longer lifespans people aren't exactly running to the alter in mass in their late teens like in the past since they are spending more time in school and enjoying their youth. It's created an intermediate stage where people are past the age of being able to wait any longer, but too young to want to settle down and have children, plain and simple.
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The whole point of the government finding is that Japanese aren't enjoying their youth.
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Ranwolf wrote:


TheHeroKiritoCouldHaveBeen wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:

See this is what happens when you create a society the way Japan has. It's just more proof the Asian way of doing things is just plain wrong.


care to explain what you mean?
just being curious.


Japan, China, Korea, Thailand. the entirety of Asia has always one that placed professional life before personal. That's all fine and dandy to a point. But at some point you have to learn to live for yourself. Being a mindless machine after all is not good for anyone let alone a society at large.


From my perspective that mentality sounds like a mental illness. How can you be happy if you are married to a career? I love my job, but I still like to do other things with my life. I'll never understand it...
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The whole point of the government finding is that Japanese aren't enjoying their youth.


Well as it was said above, going to school from crack of dawn until the late night and having little time for much else probably has a large amount to do with it. The whole thing sounds miserable.
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Reminds me of my date...



also its VR we are talking about?
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Ranwolf wrote:

Do we really have to explain the process behind procreation..I mean it's not rocket science to understand for pregnancy to happen there has to be sexual and unprotected intercourse between two individuals of the opposite gender. I mean there has only been one case of a virgin birth and some people doubt even the validity of that.


I'm just pointing out that being a virgin won't stop you from getting married or going on to have sex and reproduce. The mechanics to reproductive activities are fairly straight forward. I'm saying that being a virgin might be unrelated to the problem. I suspect that environmental and economic factors play a much bigger role than sexual experience.
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Time to go to Japan.
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listen. the economy is that great over there. so logical if you can't afford a family don't make one. kids and family life is not free. it costs a lot of money. and raising kids takes a lot of time.

if you're not married don't have sex. that way you'll avoid AIDS and other STDS and out of wedlock children growing up to be gangbangers and dope dealers and shooting the cops.

the japanese are doing right. it is just the result of mast morality is a shrinking population.

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kevz_210 wrote:

Probably has a lot to do with a lack of work/life balance and family and societal pressures which cause many to never develop normal social interactions. I'd love to visit Japan, but from what I heard the lifestyle their pushes perfection to the point where people break. (Think Hikigamoris, children going to cram school after regular school, insane salary person workweeks, etc.)




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Japan, China, Korea, Thailand. the entirety of Asia has always one that placed professional life before personal. That's all fine and dandy to a point. But at some point you have to learn to live for yourself. Being a mindless machine after all is not good for anyone let alone a society at large.


I agree with both of you. I have read about how Japanese people have insane and relentless working hours. Something like 15 hours a day or something ridiculous like that? How can anyone be expected to have a personal life and a family if they literally spend more time working than at home?

I think part of the problem is the concept of Wa- "Wa is a Japanese cultural concept usually translated into English as "harmony". It implies a peaceful unity and conformity within a social group, in which members prefer the continuation of a harmonious community over their personal interests" (Wikipedia). It is considered better to go along with the group rather than seeking your own personal or individual needs. Everyone else works insane work hours, so why should you be the one person to stop because you want to get married or have children? The social pressure in Japan is ruthless.
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