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Posted 9/18/16

GooseMcDucks wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:
you seem like a hateful person despite what everyone else says about you
what?
People say anything about that person?
*stares*



I have seen a ton of my friends talk about stars like she is a lovely person but from all i ever see is hateful comments and statements and someone who ignores everyone.

So there is a massive disconnect im obviously not seeing o.o but to me closing the borders on everyone is pretty hateful.
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Would Britain accept Americans? no, you fought us for your independence, suffer for your lack of good presidential nominee's on your own
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suffer for your lack of good presidential nominee's on your own
thank god for brexit...

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Hell, you can't say the USA has a monopoly on terrible political options. If it did the rest of the world would be in a much better state.
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Posted 9/18/16

GooseMcDucks wrote:


jaragnaros wrote:
suffer for your lack of good presidential nominee's on your own
thank god for brexit...



Britain was fucked whether it remained or stayed but at least we aint gonna break down into something from mad max like murica is going to when trump wins
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If something bad happened, let them in! I don't believe anyone should be left to suffer in a bad country because of our own cultural prejudices. I think it'll be better to try to help fix the situation in America, though, because there is only so much land in the UK.
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Nalaniel wrote:

Only if they learn the native language of the country they're immigrating to.


That's just commonm sense and logic really though.


Not really, just look at Sweden. If you go to a place like Rinkeby then you'll not be able to understand shit with the Swedish or English lang as that's pretty much a Arabic only zone. I've been there a few times and have had people walk up to me asking questions in arabic, which I don't fucking understand. The same applies for Germany and all other stupid EU states who blindly took people in without putting any requirements of them once their here
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Posted 9/18/16

MrAnimeSK wrote:


Nalaniel wrote:

Only if they learn the native language of the country they're immigrating to.


That's just commonm sense and logic really though.


I was trying to poke fun of Americans by using the idea that many of them are monolingual and so proud of their home and language, to the point where learning another language would be considered unnecessary. Guess I am not as funny as I thought myself to be. ^^
Posted 9/18/16

GooseMcDucks wrote:


jaragnaros wrote:
suffer for your lack of good presidential nominee's on your own
thank god for brexit...



like father-- like son...
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If something bad happened, let them in! I don't believe anyone should be left to suffer in a bad country because of our own cultural prejudices<Snip>


This is the sort of Good Intentions that leads to the migrant crisis in Europe. It's a noble thought and should be done in a perfect world.

However it's the sort of thinking that is very easily corrupted. Not only do you get legitimate refugees who were suffering in a bad country, but you also get many more economic migrants who simply want to live in a richer country.

Then the people who really benefit - the large corporations who want to keep wages low, the politicians who know these economic migrants will vote for more of the same government that got them this far, the richer segments of society who know they'll never be poor and use these "good works" to salve their consciences - will use any "-ist" card they can to silence the dissenters.

Then the problems this situation creates gives power to less savoury ideas and views that never had any traction before and voy-ler (as they say in France) you have the rise of Far Right political parties looking like they have a serious chance at governing and the future looks cloudy again.


That is a wildly simplified analysis and there are multiple other issues and reasons, but I thought your post showed very clearly why things like this are happening in the world. No disrespect to you MagicalUsagi (is Usagi a weapon?) or your views.

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CasualObserver


That's OK, I'm not offended. I don't know much about politics, and I'm still pretty young and naive. Usagi means rabbit in Japanese and it is the name of the main character in sailor moon.

I guess you're right to point that out, although I can't quite follow exactly what you're saying. I think I understood that some people who migrate just to be rich will abuse the system and lead to a more right government? You're right that a far right government would be a big problem. But I think leaving someone to suffer in a bad country would be cruel too, so I'm not sure what to do.

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Well, sure, why not? If they're just leaving because they don't like their country it's pretty unlikely that they're allowed to stay without a valid visa anyway and if there's a war in 2019 they can seek for asylum.
Don't forget: Just because somebody wins an election doesn't mean that everybody supports this person. We shouldn't punish the people who have tried to prevent it.
But don't mess around with our sweets and cakes. I know you love sugar but you better learn that there's a limit for it .
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Will you accept waves of American refugees in 2019, or will you vote to close the borders?


America has 300 million people. For comparison, South Vietnam had at most 20 million, and Syria has has 22 million. So it's really not on the same scale. Remember the refugee crisis in the late '70s when south vietnam collapsed and the communists were killing everyone? Looking at how well the Vietnamese are doing in Europe and America today, what are we worried about?
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Accept. I refuse to bow down and live in fear or worship hatred. I am my own man. I do not let others dictate what I do or don't like nor do I let them tell me what I should or shouldn't fear.
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Posted 9/18/16

MagicalUsagi wrote:


CasualObserver



That's OK, I'm not offended. I don't know much about politics, and I'm still pretty young and naive. Usagi means rabbit in Japanese and it is the name of the main character in sailor moon.

I guess you're right to point that out, although I can't quite follow exactly what you're saying. I think I understood that some people who migrate just to be rich will abuse the system and lead to a more right government? You're right that a far right government would be a big problem. But I think leaving someone to suffer in a bad country would be cruel too, so I'm not sure what to do.



Economic Migrants, who come to richer countries aren't doing it to make things worse here. They're super poor by our standards in their own countries so I can see the logic.

Unfortunately when the Syrian Refugee's thing kicked off, instead of putting in proper border controls on the edges of the EU to make sure ONLY refugees came in (as much as you can ensure that), the powers-that-be decided that letting anyone who wanted in to come in.

Now the only people who will even consider talking about the problem is the Right Wing so they gain in support and power. We'll just have to see how that goes now. The only thing you and I can do as individuals is to examine each political party's promises carefully and vote logically when the time comes.

You're right to say that ignoring refugees is wrong. It is and they should be helped, but the EU went about it the wrong way and created a massive problem for themselves.

This isn't hugely relevant to the concept of "American Refugees After Trump" so I apologise to everyone for the tangent.

Also - I was thinking of Assegai, the long curved knife used by the Zulus in Africa when I saw your username. Not exactly close, but I have just created the BunnyBlade :)
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