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I am not a huge fan of either show, but I watched SAO to the end.
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My liege... You should have made this a fashion battle. Then we could compare Kirito's edgelord jacket against Subaru's hideous tracksuit. That's the real battle.

Someone start making an anime fashion tournament, ASAP.


Subaru and Yato can have a tracksuit battle. XD


I don't know about Yato's tracksuit, but I think Subaru's tracksuit should win based on durability. That thing was still in one piece after getting hit with Rem's chain and an explosion inside a carriage which destroyed Felis' clothes. I want to know what brand that tracksuit is!
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This

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What does Love Live! have to do with this?
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Funny enough, the biggest complaint most people have about SAO is that so many people talk about how good it is.

There's, like, three out of 50 posts describing SAO in any sort of positive light.
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GoldTStar wrote:

Y u so noob.



Bro I'm l33t. You iz n00b.

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Funny enough, the biggest complaint most people have about SAO is that so many people talk about how good it is.

There's, like, three out of 50 posts describing SAO in any sort of positive light.


My biggest complaint is it kept going when it should have stopped.
Should have ended with Kirito wandering off with his iv pole.
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I like the SAO characters more on the whole but the story of ReZero is what draws me in there. The story for the SAO anime is a mess but I like the character antics a good amount and "the feels" did not come off as forced, like in ReZero. Oh, and the action in SAO was top notch. The GGO episode introducing Sinon is among my favorites. It's just pure over the top action cheese and I love it. Wilhelm's badassery was probably my favorite from ReZero. Betelgeuse, honestly, steals the show for me. The guy's charisma and antics are perfectly insane and entertaining. Subarau and Emilia are way too oblivious and selfish. I can't stand Subaru's bravado when he can't back it up and what's worse is his unhealthy clingy-ness to Emilia. He knows very little about her and barely has a relationship with her and just thinks it is okay to meddle in her personal life and that his "love" will reach her. Dude comes off as a creepy stalker tbh.

I much rather prefer Konosuba's Kazuma being an open perv and being genuinely light hearted. Emilia is a freaking brick wall at this point. Asuna at least shows her individual strength and abilities before being relegated largely to homebody. Emilia pretty much is just there and we really don't know much about her as an audience, either. Which makes Subaru's obsession with her all the more dumb and skeevy. Rem is good and it pains me she likes Subaru as she's way too good for him; he deserves the emotionless wall of Emilia. The side characters in ReZero show much more promise and personality. I really wish it was more focused on them tbh. I feel the same way about SAO, but I at least respect Kirito for being a generally decent, if sometimes oblivious, dude. Both shows have that grand scale story feeling to them which hooks the audience, and they both are flawed yet entertaining.
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I can't stand Subaru's bravado when he can't back it up and what's worse is his unhealthy clingy-ness to Emilia. He knows very little about her and barely has a relationship with her and just thinks it is okay to meddle in her personal life and that his "love" will reach her. Dude comes off as a creepy stalker tbh.


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I like the SAO characters more on the whole but the story of ReZero is what draws me in there. The story for the SAO anime is a mess but I like the character antics a good amount and "the feels" did not come off as forced, like in ReZero. Oh, and the action in SAO was top notch. The GGO episode introducing Sinon is among my favorites. It's just pure over the top action cheese and I love it. Wilhelm's badassery was probably my favorite from ReZero. Betelgeuse, honestly, steals the show for me. The guy's charisma and antics are perfectly insane and entertaining. Subarau and Emilia are way too oblivious and selfish. I can't stand Subaru's bravado when he can't back it up and what's worse is his unhealthy clingy-ness to Emilia. He knows very little about her and barely has a relationship with her and just thinks it is okay to meddle in her personal life and that his "love" will reach her. Dude comes off as a creepy stalker tbh.

I much rather prefer Konosuba's Kazuma being an open perv and being genuinely light hearted. Emilia is a freaking brick wall at this point. Asuna at least shows her individual strength and abilities before being relegated largely to homebody. Emilia pretty much is just there and we really don't know much about her as an audience, either. Which makes Subaru's obsession with her all the more dumb and skeevy. Rem is good and it pains me she likes Subaru as she's way too good for him; he deserves the emotionless wall of Emilia. The side characters in ReZero show much more promise and personality. I really wish it was more focused on them tbh. I feel the same way about SAO, but I at least respect Kirito for being a generally decent, if sometimes oblivious, dude. Both shows have that grand scale story feeling to them which hooks the audience, and they both are flawed yet entertaining.


Hey, Subaru wouldn't make a good sin if he wasn't obsessed with the love of a silver haired half elf.
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At least if Re:Zero fades into obscurity, it will be remembered for being... you know.... great.

Unlike that bland and generic pile of flaming dog turds known as babies first anime Sword Art Online.



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BUT the purpose of this thread is someone with creative writing skills to come up with some logical conclusion that x anime is better than y. I mean I do not choose and pick anime that are overhyped and overrated each season and like those.


First, I want to give some applause for trying to start a risky topic such as this one. So far, the salt has been lower than I thought, so it's good to see that we can all have a friendly discussion on both series.

As someone interested in creative/screenwriting and has done some work in it, I want to say that Re:Zero is the better series. I would fully explain on how and why, but I'm a bit short on time right now, so I'll give a bare-bones minimum explanation for now.

Before I go, I want to state that I think Re:Zero is okay and would probably give it a 6 to a light 7. Re:Zero is ambitious. It actually tries to tell a good story, despite the failure and shortcomings. Some characters are developed to a decent degree, while some are left out for a bit. Sure, the pacing is unbearable and Subaru is aggravating to the point where he probably deserved every bit of suffering and more that was handed to him. Even so, I feel a bit of endearing content coming from Re:Zero.

I do believe it tries to tell a message to NEET's and Hikikomori's, even if whether that message was conveyed correctly or not. i do think the story does try to say that sometimes going into a fantasy world to escape is not always a good thing by attempting to subvert the fantasy genre by adding dark themes, thrills, and suspense. Again, it only tries. Whether it succeeded or not is purely up to the viewer. In my case, it did okay with some things and failed at others. That's my take.

Here comes my portion of salt, so please take only a grain since all opinions are my own..

Now, SAO on the other hand is, well, not good. It's bad. The show isn't well-directed and handled, but it does have nice character designs. I feel the entirety of the series was made to cater to Otaku's who don't know the first thing about writing or making a great story.

SAO is the click-bait of anime. It presents itself as this cool-looking show that looks badass with cute girls; something a middle-schooler daydreams about all the time. Unfortunately, that's ALL it is. Even the light novel is crappy too. Reki Kawahara is not a good writer. I know most light novels are Otaku-centric and are written for the fan base, but I know some good LN's out there and SAO isn't one of them.

Characters are bland, story is all over the place, and while the music is okay (Yuki Kajiura deserved better), it doesn't balance it or make it better. The only thing SAO might have going for it are, again, character designs. I'm still bothered that a beautiful character such as Asuna was wasted in a series like this. In the end, SAO is just a show that only looks good. That's it; nothing more or less.

Basically, Re:Zero is ambitious, so it tries and succeeds in some areas, but ends up doing poorly than it should have in most parts. SAO is just bland and generic.


There was a lot of salt there, so if you or anyone else wants to rant any two cents at me, then I guess I'll see it when I see it. Despite that, I'm open for discussion, so let's discuss!

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Fuck it, I'll throw a Molotov into this.

My answer is actually quite simple. SAO has a problem with developing and already-developed characters. The only character arcs that appear are wrapped up relatively short into their introduction, but since the anime still needs eye candy, they kinda just sit around and don't add anything. Kirito DID have inklings of development, but it was never really expounded on it very much. His PTSD for killing players in SAO is founded rather well, but to ignore it for another cour and have it pop back in is a bit jarring. Only about 20% of the cast was necessary at any given time. Mother's Rosario flipped this idea around and managed to have a group of one-off characters that I liked, Yuuki even being one of my favorite SAO characters period, but that's pretty much the only instance of me caring for a character.

Re:Zero on the other hand oozes itself in development, which can sometimes work in its opposition to be fair. There isn't a single time a character leaps to a conclusion or magically becomes a character ultra powerful. Everything felt like a row of dominos, where one thing clearly affected the other. The characters that weren't needed didn't show up, and the characters that were there were there for a purpose. And I don't think I need to mention Subaru's grueling journey of self-discovery. But this is where the opinion splits. Do you let each and every negative quality of a character come out in the open for the sake of development and risk losing audience, or do you skip a couple moments and hope people get the gist of it and risk losing authenticity of development? I think part of the interest of Subaru's brutish and naive behavior is because we're seeing every step he takes to become a better person. It's the same reason why Boku no Hero Academia is so intriguing, because it shows how hard Izuku works to become a hero. I think this anime is best enjoyed as a person who delves into character development, otherwise it seems like a really long way to make a guy not be a dick.

I think the simplest way to put it is that SAO puts its narrative towards background and exposition while Re:Zero puts its narrative strictly on development.


Nice argument! I do believe Re:Zero uses exposition as well as careful animation to display the tension, though.

Mother's Rosario is the only good thing about SAO and I'm surprised it was written in a compelling way. So much that I suspect that Reki Kawahara didn't write it, but rather someone else. But that's just me being mistrusting of the series, so yeah, haha.
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Nozomi is best :p


Why is Love Live here? Ack, fuck it...

Here!

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What does Love Live! have to do with this?


My thoughts exactly, but then again...I just added a pic of Kotori, soo my argument is invalid..
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