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after moving into our apartment I'm beginning to understand this concern about immigration. It is a problem. nearly everyone in the complex is from out of the country. there are only a few white americans and a few black americans and few asian tenants. i noticed that the white and black and asians keep their kids indoors. the only kids who run all over the place getting in the way of cars, throwing balls against the buildings, throwing rocks, and throwing trash are the latino/hispanic kids. my mom said they shouldn't do that, especially with the wave of anti everyone south of the boarder sentiment.

a ukraine family, I guess they're a family, live in the unit over us. We hear a lot of adults and one boy who looks to be around 12 or 13. Everyday a teenage girl goes to school and some mornings a blonde woman goes out. we can hear men voices,and hear men walking, but they never go out. There are women up stairs who never go out. The boy who looks to be 12 or 13 never leaves the apartment except at night sometimes when people come get him and a woman. He doesn't go to school. he stays in the upstairs apartment all day everyday. We see ukraine people in fine expensive looking cars come to visit the people upstairs, but they only come late when it's dark.

What really sticks out about the ukraine tenants is that the boy is so noisy. We saw him once one night. he's looks to be around 5'5 ft. When he's in the apartment he runs and jumps and stumps like a 2 year old. he make the ceiling crack and the hanging lights in our downstairs apartment sway. during the day he never goes outside. he runs jumps and stump in the apartment all through school hours. As for the adults, they are quiet. We can hear them walk, but their walking is normal and non disturbing, when you hear them you don't pay them any attention at all. and like the boy they don't come out the apartment.

We're wondering why the boy doesn't go to school and hides in the apartment all day along with some of the adults. We figured they could be illegal.

We told someone we know about this situation. he said it sounds like they are in human trafficking. He said in Portland OR where he lives (we live just across the bridge from Portland in Vancouver WA) there are a lot of ukraine people, and they are into Human trafficking big time. They illegally bring people in the country and they do their illegal operation through their churches. He suggested that we contact ICE, Immigration Customs Enforcement. So we going to do that and contact our US congresswoman, fortunately she is Republican.

in this whole area of town there are more foreign looking and speaking people then there were 10 years ago. they can barely speak English. and they are so rude they look at you so mean and hatefully.

Jobs are tight in Vancouver and rent is high. when you go out to stores and business you don't see these people working. You see some latinos/hispanics doing some service or labor work. the asians and east indians do skilled good paying jobs. it is hard for black americans to get work in town even if they have a good education. I know black people who are worn out from looking for work. There are a lot of struggling white people who are just as stressed out as the black people financially.

Now a lot of middle eastern people are showing up in town. I see a lot of them at walmart using EBT cards to pay for groceries. A lady we know says that at the public housing complex where she lives nearly all of the tenants are russians.

The funny thing is in town we have a growing homeless population and a majority of it are americans. the foreigners have housing and government assistance while americans are going homeless. that just is not right.

Something needs to be done. things are getting out of hands.

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Those damn Ukrainians are ruining America I tell you what.
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So no vote for the turd sandwich, then? mmk.
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You vote for whoever you want. Just do research instead of relying on what happened to you. Some people have different lives, thus different examples. The "I saw it happen" isn't a very good reason or proof.
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I like to meet people from outside the United States. What I don't like are those people taking the work away from people that live here and pay taxes. They don't pay taxes, and a lot of their money is moved out of the country. They're pillaging the United States and it's been going on for a long time, exponentially worse thanks to our borders being wide open for all to cross. When I meet a foreigner who actually wants to live here and be part of society, pay taxes like the rest of us , and enjoy their life, I find myself fully accepting of them moving in and working beside me. Unfortunately that is not the case with what seems to be a majority of the foreigners I meet in a day - and I meet a lot of them. Much of the time, they're exceedingly negative about the place they've been living and working, and they intend to take what they earn and send it back home - not move their families here. That being the case they have no place taking the work away from those who do actually want to live here, and work here.

Don't get me wrong, I meet a fair selection of those who do want to integrate themselves, and a fair number who are impressed by this place (North Dakota, at least) - but there's an alarming number of people living, and working, in the United States, who HATE the US and will tell you they would see it burnt to the ground if it was in their power. Just like the people waving foreign flags in our major cities, and burning the American flag - people like that, regardless of where they're from, need to get the hell out and stay out.

IF I vote for Trump, which seems much more likely than voting for Hillary now, it's because I recognize the dire need we're in for immigration reform. No country in the world lets "just anybody" walk across the border as they please. Doing so allows this type, who want this country to fall, to have their way with it. This CANNOT continue and it will continue under Clinton, at the expense of all the people who WANT to call this place their home - like me.

People act like Trump is being racist - because he wants ILLEGALS out of the country? That isn't racist, that's the only intelligent course of action for someone who actually gives a shit about this country. Because he questions Obama's nationality? We DESERVE to know the allegiances and associations of our own president and when there are things that would lead to question, that question should be asked and investigated. Not doing so is NEGLIGENT and any president ever would fall under that scrutiny at even the slightest doubt - but because Obama is black, it's racist? Give me a break. The way race is being used this election year is alarming. I've personally been accused of being a racist, when that has never, EVER been an issue in the past, just this year, multiple times. (because I charge people money for products and services) This is only going to get worse the more our leaders try to make everything and everyone sound racist. The way this campaign is being handled is incredibly irresponsible, and that alone is enough for me to refuse to vote for Hillary.

It's amazing how many anti-Trump's believe things that were never true and that Trump never said - it's amazing how many of them literally believe that Trump wants to send all colored people back to where their ancestors are - even though he never said anything remotely like that. They don't even understand what the difference between an alien, and an illegal alien is. There's an enormous difference - and that's exactly what Clinton is playing towards and banking on - every little bit is misinformation and taken out of context as well as proportion. Every time, they try to play to people's rage to counter something Trump says. If it weren't for this underhanded game, I might even consider voting Clinton. I think this shows us exactly how she and her team are going to run America - if that doesn't scare you, you're a pretty hardcore MF.

I'll clarify this, though, I don't think Trump is the best choice for a leader, I think some of his proposals are ignorant, not to mention a waste of resources (a wall? there are better ways to accomplish curbing illegal immigration), but he is clearly the only choice if we want to curb the current system and it's failings - and it IS failing. He's the only one who isn't going to continue all the detrimental policies that have been put into place that can actually even run for president. Not that many people can run for president because almost no one has the money to do so. Given our choices, and what little we know about their actual policies, Trump is likely to get my vote. -_-

I'm uneasy voting this year, but there are a million reasons to not vote for Clinton and every day it seems like there are more. I don't think Trump could even approach this, given how much dirt there is behind Clinton. She's got a much, much bigger and darker history. There are lots of books to read, if people were actually interested. It's too bad people are more concerned with labeling everyone as a racist than they are with facts.

I either vote for Trump, or join the inevitable witch hunt. Hopefully not tied to the stake.


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You vote for whoever you want. Just do research instead of relying on what happened to you. Some people have different lives, thus different examples. The "I saw it happen" isn't a very good reason or proof.


His point is a valid one, this is widespread. We are seeing this in North Dakota, and if it's happening here, it's a epidemic. Is that really difficult to believe, given our border and immigration policy? Not to mention government assistance for immigrants, that exceeds what most normal American's could get out of them. Hell, I made UNDER $30,000 a year last year, and the government took $900 more from me at tax time, even though I claimed 0 dependents on my W2, meanwhile I'm not even eligible for assistance at all. They can come here, get jobs, and get government assistance, and all the expense of someone who falls in one of the lowest pay brackets. It's an outrage, and that's putting it very nicely.
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I have to add though, That Indians and Muslims do it to an extent to but its maily the Indians, they are taking over alot of the unit blocks and by that i mean they actually force other people out.
Not by force but because they are so noisy that other people cant take it and move and then more Indians move in.
Me and my brother both experienced this. When i lived in a block of units some Indians moved in next door and these were small (as units are) and i never quite knew just how many of them actually ever lived in there.
There always seemed to be so many of them and people always seemed to be coming and going.
They would stand outside my door talking, they would leave their unit opened up and i could hear them all talking and their curry pressure cookers from inside my unit.
My brother lived in a unit that he actually bought and slowly one by one each unit was getting Indian tenants. And he experienced the same thing. He said they were always in and out in and out and i mean you cant really do much about hearing doors and cupboards opening and closing in units or people going up and down the stairs but he said the same, so many living in one unit and people always coming and going and they would stand and talk out by his door.
They would wash clothes outside and clean curry pots outside and etc.
The worst though for him was some Muslims down stairs (i think Indian Muslims). One day/night they had a big party type thing but i think it was some religious occasion or something. He said there were so many of them that they unit was full and they were all outside and even were cooking their curries and that outside the unit. Said it went all day and all night and was very noisy and when my brother called the police due to a noise complaint the police did nothing because it was religious related.
Now this is not the sort of behaviour that you do living in a unit block. Your own house then yes that is fine.
Double standard also, if he had a party with us lowly Aussies drinking and playing music or what not, the cops would have shut it down.

And then i moved back down to an area that i grew up in and it was the same deal. I went for walks often and there was a unit block at the end of my street and same deal. Indians. And large groups of them and them hanging out in gropus outside and talking loud in their langauge and kids playing.
Then a bit further on my same walk, there's another unit block and it actually made me laugh and feel sorry for the other tennants. They were so loud, just yapping away with god knows how many in the one unit and all the windows open that i could actually here them from way down the street and it would get louder as i approched.
I worked with an Indian guy and he happened to be renting a unit from that same area.

I was talking to a taxi driver ( a rare non Indian one) and he reckons they all live in one unit (Indians) and will sleep in shifts, like share the bed between multiple people and sleep in shifts.

Anyways it actually is a problem. But its a tough one becasue i guess it is their choice to have so many all live in one small area and they're used to living like that in their home country.
It's hell for other tenants though. I guess it is also up to the unit owner to allow so many to live in there,if he/she is even aware of it?
But they're not very considerate. But i guess the owner only cares about $ and the Indians probably feel they're not doing anything wrong.

Funnily enough i think my brother now rents his units out to Indians. Cant beat em join em? lol

But as far as noisy kids, i dont think that you can put that down to race or immigrants. Kids will be kids and there are bad lazy parents of every race and religion.
The living hell i experienced in my old unit, i called them "the kid pack" was a Aussie/Aboriginal kid and some Greek or Italian kids and they were extremely noisy and made my life a living hell.
I spoke with both parents and they dont not give a fuck. They were just happy their kids were out of their hair, couldn't care less that it's a block of units and consideration should be shown to the other tenants.
It is sad though, to see kids living in a unit. Must be hard.

EDIT: me and my brother used to play cricket out on the street infront of our house back in the day. We were probably annoying too
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The post has been reported lmao. TRUMP triggers every time.
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Illegal immigrants are just a scapegoat imo. People don't seem to realize they are a part of the economy even if they don't pay taxes. And let's be honest, you have such high taxes because the government spends money on completely absurd things and wastes it. There will be a lot of problems if that many people leave the economy and workforce. As for jobs they take low income low skill jobs that we don't care to do in most cases. Those better jobs that vanished were sent overseas by people like Trump. If he were serious about bringing jobs back to America he would bring all of his production and manufacturing jobs back over here and lead by example. None of that even touches on the sheer cost of deporting that many illegals. If Trump has his way the debt will skyrocket because he plans on just not paying back any of it.
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VeggyZ wrote:

I like to meet people from outside the United States. What I don't like are those people taking the work away from people that live here and pay taxes. They don't pay taxes, and a lot of their money is moved out of the country. They're pillaging the United States and it's been going on for a long time, exponentially worse thanks to our borders being wide open for all to cross. When I meet a foreigner who actually wants to live here and be part of society, pay taxes like the rest of us , and enjoy their life, I find myself fully accepting of them moving in and working beside me. Unfortunately that is not the case with what seems to be a majority of the foreigners I meet in a day - and I meet a lot of them. Much of the time, they're exceedingly negative about the place they've been living and working, and they intend to take what they earn and send it back home - not move their families here. That being the case they have no place taking the work away from those who do actually want to live here, and work here.

Don't get me wrong, I meet a fair selection of those who do want to integrate themselves, and a fair number who are impressed by this place (North Dakota, at least) - but there's an alarming number of people living, and working, in the United States, who HATE the US and will tell you they would see it burnt to the ground if it was in their power. Just like the people waving foreign flags in our major cities, and burning the American flag - people like that, regardless of where they're from, need to get the hell out and stay out.

IF I vote for Trump, which seems much more likely than voting for Hillary now, it's because I recognize the dire need we're in for immigration reform. No country in the world lets "just anybody" walk across the border as they please. Doing so allows this type, who want this country to fall, to have their way with it. This CANNOT continue and it will continue under Clinton, at the expense of all the people who WANT to call this place their home - like me.

People act like Trump is being racist - because he wants ILLEGALS out of the country? That isn't racist, that's the only intelligent course of action for someone who actually gives a shit about this country. Because he questions Obama's nationality? We DESERVE to know the allegiances and associations of our own president and when there are things that would lead to question, that question should be asked and investigated. Not doing so is NEGLIGENT and any president ever would fall under that scrutiny at even the slightest doubt - but because Obama is black, it's racist? Give me a break. The way race is being used this election year is alarming. I've personally been accused of being a racist, when that has never, EVER been an issue in the past, just this year, multiple times. (because I charge people money for products and services) This is only going to get worse the more our leaders try to make everything and everyone sound racist. The way this campaign is being handled is incredibly irresponsible, and that alone is enough for me to refuse to vote for Hillary.

It's amazing how many anti-Trump's believe things that were never true and that Trump never said - it's amazing how many of them literally believe that Trump wants to send all colored people back to where their ancestors are - even though he never said anything remotely like that. They don't even understand what the difference between an alien, and an illegal alien is. There's an enormous difference - and that's exactly what Clinton is playing towards and banking on - every little bit is misinformation and taken out of context as well as proportion. Every time, they try to play to people's rage to counter something Trump says. If it weren't for this underhanded game, I might even consider voting Clinton. I think this shows us exactly how she and her team are going to run America - if that doesn't scare you, you're a pretty hardcore MF.

I'll clarify this, though, I don't think Trump is the best choice for a leader, I think some of his proposals are ignorant, not to mention a waste of resources (a wall? there are better ways to accomplish curbing illegal immigration), but he is clearly the only choice if we want to curb the current system and it's failings - and it IS failing. He's the only one who isn't going to continue all the detrimental policies that have been put into place that can actually even run for president. Not that many people can run for president because almost no one has the money to do so. Given our choices, and what little we know about their actual policies, Trump is likely to get my vote. -_-

I'm uneasy voting this year, but there are a million reasons to not vote for Clinton and every day it seems like there are more. I don't think Trump could even approach this, given how much dirt there is behind Clinton. She's got a much, much bigger and darker history. There are lots of books to read, if people were actually interested. It's too bad people are more concerned with labeling everyone as a racist than they are with facts.

I either vote for Trump, or join the inevitable witch hunt. Hopefully not tied to the stake.


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

You vote for whoever you want. Just do research instead of relying on what happened to you. Some people have different lives, thus different examples. The "I saw it happen" isn't a very good reason or proof.


His point is a valid one, this is widespread. We are seeing this in North Dakota, and if it's happening here, it's a epidemic. Is that really difficult to believe, given our border and immigration policy? Not to mention government assistance for immigrants, that exceeds what most normal American's could get out of them. Hell, I made UNDER $30,000 a year last year, and the government took $900 more from me at tax time, even though I claimed 0 dependents on my W2, meanwhile I'm not even eligible for assistance at all. They can come here, get jobs, and get government assistance, and all the expense of someone who falls in one of the lowest pay brackets. It's an outrage, and that's putting it very nicely.


Not saying it isn't, I'm just urging people to make informed decision than knee jerk reactions. Again, personal experiences aren't something to be taken without scrutiny..
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um... i read all of your opinion's and most are so ignorant and what blows my mind is you all seem pretty intelligent. now i get you're concerns and some of you mean well but what you guys are saying is a lot different from what trump is saying. lol and when you get down to it most of you guys seem mad about how your buildings are bad(not well insulated) so you hear you're neighbors. i just re read alot of your post and like i said before you guys seem intelligent but it comes off ignorant now i understand illegals in our country could possibly hurt our economy because most send money back home. now lets be honest our economy is fucked so dont pull that bullshit ass argument and honestly so what. think about it. to me laws are bs because if you care more about upholding the law then preserving life you're wrong. for one second lets not focus on them breaking the law lets focus on why they are doing it what are the situations (idk maybe the only work in mexico is for the cartel) ext.. there are extenuating circumstances people come to the us, and personally i like it. that people would come here for a better life in a way it says a lot about our country, now while where the most hated and laughing stock of the world.The worlds people choose us For A Better Life. lets be honest we love trying to fix other country's and help but where lazy when it comes to solving the problems for why they come over here now while i think its they're governments job to fix the're own country's economics, civil wars, cartels they obviously cant so us Americans who like to go fix everything should go try to fix these problems or at least help, shit!!! i think illegal's should be arrested but i think that we should be accepting enough and not have an insane process that there would be maybe 10-30 illegals a year. our systems are so fucked it really dosent matter. when you get pass this level of america is home america is the greatest then you see land you see what rules are you ok living by theirs a whole world out there and the fact that you our i have an opinion about anything is retarded. im high and im rambling back to the point dont be so narrow as to only focus on your experiences just think about it . this world is so diverse i could meet a Muslim man or a Mexican man who would have the exact same opinion as you. the true point is think shit out bro your being fucking stupid.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

You vote for whoever you want. Just do research instead of relying on what happened to you. Some people have different lives, thus different examples. The "I saw it happen" isn't a very good reason or proof.


THIS. ^^^

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