Post Reply Simulcast and UK TV Licensing
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Posted 9/24/16
Not having had a TV for many years, I must renew my status of "I do not own a TV or watch live shows online" with UK TV Licensing every two years.

In their most recent letter to me, I saw that they have updated their definitions of "Live TV" to include any content on any device that is watched as it is being broadcasted.

As I have a premium account, I naturally take advantage of your Simulcast feature quite often.
Given this recent letter however, I am wondering if Simulcast falls under the UK TV Licensing definition of "Live TV" and thus, whether or not I need to purchase a TV License in order to continue using this service.
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Posted 9/24/16 , edited 9/29/16
Simulcasts are not streamed as they're broadcast, but after. In any case, the broadcast is in Japan not UK so doesn't apply. Finally, Crunchyroll is not a UK broadcaster with a TV channel. The license fee doesn't include Netflix either, for the same reasons.
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Posted 9/24/16 , edited 9/24/16
Thank you for the clarification. I was unsure about the definitions, as the TV Licensing website includes Youtube, Twitch, and Amazon Instant Video in their list of examples.
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Posted 9/24/16

Najus_Sith wrote:

Thank you for the clarification. I was unsure about the definitions, as the TV Licensing website includes Youtube, Twitch, and Amazon Instant Video in their list of examples.

The first two I can somewhat understand, since they do live video, but I don't see how it applies to Amazon Instant Video any more than it does CR.

Frankly, I thought UK licensing only applied if you watched programming that was actually supported by those fees (and I seriously doubt the UK is turning over any fees to those services).

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Posted 9/26/16 , edited 9/26/16
[Edited]

Turns out you do need a TV License to view ANY Live TV, even if an international channel viewed online as per below quote :

"If you’re watching live TV, you need to be covered by a TV Licence: to watch satellite or online programmes shown live from outside the UK or Channel Islands."

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ95

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ16

However Crunchyroll is not "Live" and it is not a streamed TV Channel. So would not count.

Also you will find the rules for TV Licenses changed this year. It is no longer just "Live" TV you are not allowed to watch without a license now. You are also now no longer allowed to watch On Demand content from the BBC at least without a license.

From their website :

"A TV Licence is required to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on TV or live on an online TV service, or to download or watch BBC programmes on demand, including catch up TV, on BBC iPlayer."
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Posted 9/29/16 , edited 9/29/16
I'm absoultutly furious by the way it is worded on the TV licensing website.

Scenarios

1)
So if Im a resident of the USA watching a BBC program I have to obtain a UK TV licence. Will they send a TV licence inspector around if I dont and how do I obtain one in the USA. Will I breach international law and be extradited to the UK justice courts if I do not pay.

2)
I watch Internationally ( non uk/bbc, eg Japan ) television exclusively, some Live some downloaded, but live in the UK. By your [their] terms I have to pay a UK TV licence due to programs watched from half way around the world not broadcast or supplied by you. What possible service are you [TV licence Comp] supplying me with when I've bought a TV made in Korea and is powered by electricity supplied by France (true due to power shortages, the uk buys electricity from France and cant afford to build its own nuclear power station so has had to begged china to do so), and supplied by content from another country you have no affiliation with, with respect to any broadcasting rights.

Respectfully, One sincerely pissed off UK TV Licence holder.
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