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Posted 9/26/16 , edited 9/26/16

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That is not wholly true at all. First, the lack of communication. Only emails I get are from forum replies. Second, they have put old shows on CR and they're great shows. They don't have to be brand new. Just new to us paying customers. Hell, I'd gladly pay CR double (not kidding) if they were more on the ball and more proactive and balanced.


Are we talking strictly about old shows or new shows? Because new shows is very true to what I just explained to you. As far as old shows go, it is still up to the publishers of whether or not they want to outsource that anime to streaming services. Sometimes they don't even bother to put it up for bidding. Sometimes Crunchyroll just can't get their hands on it. One-Punch Man is a great example. Hulu has more money, so they saw the opportunity to acquire something that millions of fans would love. All I'm trying to say is, don't be putting the blame entirely on Crunchyroll. Sure, their communication could be a lot better, but they do what they can as far as content goes.
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pacificjade wrote:


That is not wholly true at all. First, the lack of communication. Only emails I get are from forum replies. Second, they have put old shows on CR and they're great shows. They don't have to be brand new. Just new to us paying customers. Hell, I'd gladly pay CR double (not kidding) if they were more on the ball and more proactive and balanced.


Are we talking strictly about old shows or new shows? Because new shows is very true to what I just explained to you. As far as old shows go, it is still up to the publishers of whether or not they want to outsource that anime to streaming services. Sometimes they don't even bother to put it up for bidding. Sometimes Crunchyroll just can't get their hands on it. One-Punch Man is a great example. Hulu has more money, so they saw the opportunity to acquire something that millions of fans would love. All I'm trying to say is, don't be putting the blame entirely on Crunchyroll. Sure, their communication could be a lot better, but they do what they can as far as content goes.


We are talking about what CR puts into the selector for us to get into. I use a PS4, personally, but CR uses may aps on many devices to give their selection view of things *new to CR* or newly promoted.

For example, many months ago, they did Nodame Cantibile. It's an old show (over a decade old?), but they promoted it as new to us, the viewer. As a paying customer, I was very happy to watch an episode every night before bed. It was new to me (and many non-Japanese), and LEGAL to me.
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Posted 9/26/16 , edited 9/26/16
Oh look. Another forum thread where someone dislikes a genre/aspect of anime and doesn't understand why it's so "rampant".

There's plenty of anime where there is only a single character that exudes the "moe archetype" at best, and even more where they're not. If that triggers you, anime is not for you.

Also, CGDCT for laifu.
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No.

That's all I can really say. OP has 3 CR points, no forum posts, no profile picture , and provided no explanation other than an isolated link.

Lord knows I ain't clicking that link without more context. Even if it is a valid link to a good video or article, I don't want to support the practice of forum posts without explanation.

So all you get is "no".
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by moe i think you mean loli
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pacificjade wrote:

We are talking about what CR puts into the selector for us to get into. I use a PS4, personally, but CR uses may aps on many devices to give their selection view of things *new to CR* or newly promoted.


Sure, this is common on many services.


For example, many months ago, they did Nodame Cantibile. It's an old show (over a decade old?), but they promoted it as new to us, the viewer. As a paying customer, I was very happy to watch an episode every night before bed. It was new to me (and many non-Japanese), and LEGAL to me.


Cool, glad Crunchyroll was able to acquire something that you love. Your original complaint was the lack of adult dramas. It's still not up to them for what they can get.
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pacificjade wrote:

We are talking about what CR puts into the selector for us to get into. I use a PS4, personally, but CR uses may aps on many devices to give their selection view of things *new to CR* or newly promoted.


Sure, this is common on many services.


For example, many months ago, they did Nodame Cantibile. It's an old show (over a decade old?), but they promoted it as new to us, the viewer. As a paying customer, I was very happy to watch an episode every night before bed. It was new to me (and many non-Japanese), and LEGAL to me.


Cool, glad Crunchyroll was able to acquire something that you love. Your original complaint was the lack of adult dramas. It's still not up to them for what they can get.


For an entire season. The complaint was a massive ramp up for one market and a massive ramp down for another, over 3 or more months. So as someone that pays, it concerns me, especially with no communication about it. A sudden large change, with no convo = not appropriate.

My original complaint was not the lack of adult dramas. It is about the ratio of lack of new adult material in general, compared to everything else. And being an adult not into, and quite nauseated by, "blossoming kids/teens" material, it ties into this thread.

So don't tell me there was a clearance sale on Beyblade and dozens of all-female MC "cute" anime, and nothing else. That argument doesn't really cut it. Why would you not demand more from CR, as a paying customer? Do not work/study hard to deserve more variety in your life in your personal time?
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This season I'm watching JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part IV, 91 Days, Thunderbolt Fantasy, and Berserk on CR--all of which are aimed at an adult audience--and I've seen all of them promoted on the main page, too. *shrug*
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This season I'm watching JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part IV, 91 Days, Thunderbolt Fantasy, and Berserk on CR--all of which are aimed at an adult audience--and I've seen all of them promoted on the main page, too. *shrug*


I'll give you Beserk and 91 Days as more in line with mainstream Western adult viewers. We tried the other two (we have a weekly anime night between Game of Thrones airings), and they were quickly "noped" as a consensus. I'd add in Orange and The Morose Mononokean, as well, but too slow for us. But fine adult-type anime.


Sadly, my breath is wasted, and so is our conversations.


The question should be asked: Is CR turning into commercials for products? And how does this relate to the various people within markets, including those who view and buy moe. I think these are the questions that need to be discussed, considered CR's Twitter now reads like a Saturday morning cartoon commercials.

Most of CR Twitter now is almost entirely centered around young girls. It has one about Berserk and one about this:



The reason Hard Gay (Razor Ramon) became a thing, was because it was spoofing American wrestling as absolutely ridiculous, which is why his stage name is almost identical to an American wrestler's stage name. It's fringe at best, when it comes to looking at markets as a whole. And don't criticize anything, because CR Twitter will block people. Seen it happen a lot, and will state: "Blocked". Not a good way to communicate at all. It essentially gives the impression that they do not care about viewers.

#cantrelate

My general feeling is that CR is chasing new markets, where products are more likely to be sold, rather than what the most amount of viewers will watch as paying subscribers.

This is a market model Trion Worlds has used, where they ignore the whole in favor of fringe "whale customers". A whale is someone that spends a lot in comparison to most people. It works for many years, but eventually burns out the average customer and the whales move on. I hope this is not how CR is beginning to become.

On a positive note, pairing up with Funimation was very smart, as was using Reina Scully (a very ethical person) as a host. That helps pull in more viewers and helps fight off illegal streaming.

It'd be interesting to see the statistics on who buys Moe products (CR Twitter is currently displaying a 6' Saekono, which is anything but showing off a niche market) and why, and if that has anything to do with how CR selects for us viewers.
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I don't believe Moe anime is for "pedos." Sometimes people want to watch a cute show that makes them laugh out loud. I suffer from depression and it is those cute shows like New Game! and shows similar that are great to watch when you're feeling down. Most anime is rated for teen males who will also be attracted by cute moe girls. It is what it is and basically if you have an issue with it, don't watch it.

If you believe CR puts too much moe into their line-up then go somewhere else for your anime. Stick to adult seinen shows if you don't like moe or think it is obscene or disturbing. It's just a TV show after all.
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I don't believe Moe anime is for "pedos." Sometimes people want to watch a cute show that makes them laugh out loud. I suffer from depression and it is those cute shows like New Game! and shows similar that are great to watch when you're feeling down. Most anime is rated for teen males who will also be attracted by cute moe girls. It is what it is and basically if you have an issue with it, don't watch it.

If you believe CR puts too much moe into their line-up then go somewhere else for your anime. Stick to adult seinen shows if you don't like moe or think it is obscene or disturbing. It's just a TV show after all.


You essentially just told me and others like me to not pay CR.

Is this your advice? This is your solution, to damn the other viewers, instead of holding the business accountable??

Someone has criticism (I never said too much moe, btw. I said essentially stated too imbalanced of a ratio of watchable, relatable content for typical adults -- those that typically hold Credit/Debit cards vs. Not ), and this is your conclusion.

Brilliant.


This is in line with. "You didn't say nice things. Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete."

That is now how constructive, productive living works.

I am glad CR has content for you. It isn't about damning the content. It is all about what CR is communicating and how much of what it is communication. What if there was more moe (or whatever content for you) and more other market type genres for others, in a more balanced way? Is that somehow wrong? No, it is not. YOU are also the consumer! And your money has meaning. Speak with it! Never ask for less than.
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B8 or retardation?


Your exact question is bait, and you know it. Its a false dichotomy, which is almost always bait.

The video was not awful. It wasn't good either, but here we are.
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Don't pay for crunchyroll then. It has a free side also. It's amazing how you believe that companies should be indebted to you because you chose to use their service. I am a consumer who likes what crunchyroll does. You sound like you should be entitled to everything but that's not how the real world works. Corporations want money. You don't HAVE to give it to them. If you don't like what one company does then you switch.
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