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So Hillary has said she wants to make college tuition free for the middle class. However, she has also said she wants to raise taxes on the middle class.

So technically her plan is for us to pay the government, so that the government can pay for people to go to college. This seems fair given the crushing financial burden most of my age group already has from student loans.

"I know you are struggling to find jobs and pay off your debts, so I'm going to tax you more so other can go to school debt free."

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Hillary: "... We are going to raise taxes on the middle class" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B6vsxUKryrg
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Problem is that simply making college 'free' doesn't actually fix the problem that is causing college costs to balloon in the first place, Specifically state governments cutting higher education funding due to rising Medicaid and state employee pension and health plan costs, people that should not be going to college who go to college, and increasingly opulent college facilities and administrator salaries. If you could fix these three things college costs would go down dramatically and for less money. Instead giving colleges a blank check to charge what they want will simply encourage this behavior.
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Who shouldn't go to college?
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College isn't freakin' medical care

I'm not gonna pay for other people's education
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From what I can tell, the latest is that Clinton endorses debt-free college, not tuition free college. From what I can tell this involves a restructuring of payment models which is more based on income than just a flat rate.

As far as taxing the middle class, Clinton has said that she wasn't going to be raising tax rates, however from what I understand, the specifics of that aren't included in her current tax plan. Even still, a hypothetical increase would be around $100. (PS: Clinton has famously been misquoted (even in this thread) as saying "we are going to raise taxes on the middle class". A quick google search will show that the actual quote is "we aren't going to raise taxes on the middle class". The "t" is soft, but this whole deal was settled months ago.)

Student loans often equal around $50,000 for a four year college. I don't think anyone would say its a bad deal to trade that down to $100/year. Even if you paid those taxes from the day you were born til you were 100 years old, you are still coming off in the black.
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Clinton's plan may deal with the student loan problem, but does nothing to control out of control costs. Eventually it will collapse and the payment restructuring will have to revert back unless there is something to keep overpaid administrators, multi million dollar athletic departments, and unneeded new construction in check.

It shouldn't take 30-60k a year to educate a single student, there is obviously a lot of waste here.
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Not everyone should go to school though, additionally the job market is already over filled in every popular area. Adding additional people to those pools will just make it harder to get a job.
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Solefyre wrote:

So Hillary has said she wants to make college tuition free for the middle class. However, she has also said she wants to raise taxes on the middle class.

So technically her plan is for us to pay the government, so that the government can pay for people to go to college. This seems fair given the crushing financial burden most of my age group already has from student loans.


Well, technically, her plan is to get back the last remaining Bernie voters. I'll give her a star for effort.
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Is okie, he doesn't pay taxes anyways...


'Cus that makes him "smart" :3


LOL
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henohenomoheiji wrote:

Is okie, he doesn't pay taxes anyways...


'Cus that makes him "smart" :3


LOL


Ya know I try to reduce how much I pay in taxes and increase my refund as much as possible. I can't really say I'm much different from him...

Can you?
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Iono, Have you been audited for more than 10 years?

Think there is a difference on trying to pay -less- taxes than do it in a way the IRS keep watching on you over the years. (´・ω・)
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Hm, I look at the Scandinavian countries and such that have high taxes and free University. I look at their education level and how efficient it is.

I think of Germany doing the same thing, and if I was 2 years younger, I could have gotten a free education in Germany...

Then I look at the USA and how it has cost me $105k for 5 years of University due to a major change. Yea. I would like to see a bit of a change. Everything I saved up since I was a little kid and 40k in scholarships is hardly enough to cover me. I hate to see what a smart kid with no money saved and poor parents would have happen.

Disclaimer: I got no money from parents. The money I used for University is all my own.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Donald trump was the Antichrist
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Before you get all excited about the government paying your tuition, look into who's running the tuition loan programs now.
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