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PotentsalivaYeah, I'm not too sure lifting things in a mechanistic fashion qualifies as practical and/or functional, Since a good amount of the weight bearing exercises most people tend to do only focus in on isolated muscles in a limited range, thus more emphasis is needed to take in account for all the other muscles and tendons that aren't accounted for.
Hmm I don't think that's really true when it comes to the compound lifts. That said, it probably couldn't hurt to supplement weightlifting with some more holistic exercise of course.


PotentsalivaPractical in the sense of : Is this useful in a wide range of actives besides working out? Does the weight I'm lifting on a constant basis actually useful or is it just compressing and adding more muscular and skeletal tension? Am I actually learning a useful skill I carry into my life? After the workout do I feel stiff or actually physically relaxed? Yeah I think really weird shit like that. I also think more on a long term basis as in keeping my joints healthy,strong, and flexible as with muscles as I age and hopefully not becoming decrepit and immobile as I age. I mean I'm not entirely talking down lifting cause it certainly has it's uses, but only to a degree.
That all depends on what you are trying to do. In terms of strength gain there's really no better method. So I'm not really sure what you mean when you say it's not functional since clearly strength is functional. Many athletes such as sprinters are very accomplished power lifters since the weight training is functional in improving their performance. I originally started lifting to try and improve my tricking, and it worked even though I did not carry on for very long. With regards to long term health, I think you should look up some studies on bone density and muscular degeneration of elderly people who weight lift vs those who do not. There's actually a lot of evidence to suggest that lifting is one of the best ways to remain healthy for older people.


PotentsalivaAs for the exercises stuff like any martial arts, Yoga, barefoot running, gardening, yard work, I think you get the idea. I think those are more effective towards goals beyond just physical strength. I think I actually have more of a problem with how people go about it than the actual practice.

Yeah I agree that there are other forms of exercise that are just as if not more important and address aspects of health that lifting does not. For instance my job is cycling and without that I would be much less fit regardless of how much weightlifting I did. I don't want to sound rude, but you seem to be drawing a lot of conclusions from ill-conceived premises.


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I do pullups and pushups whenever I get up from the computer, at one-minute intervals scattered throughout the day. Actually works pretty well. You can always find one minute, here or there, and there's no gym cost. Do a daily hike before starting work too; just a half-hour there, but bettern' nothing, I figure.

Actually, I've been kinda surprised how well it's been working. Good luck to everyone else.
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I mostly do at home dumbbell training.

I've seen modest improvements. It's rather nice.
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Currently in love with weight training.
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I do circuit workouts 3 days a week and we often do stuff like deadlifts and squats. I also rotate through muscle groups at my local gym when I go, try to do a 3 day rotation with 2 groups per day and doing core like everyday.

After really ramping things up for a while you start noticing stronger muscle and mixing it with MMA classes I've been taking, well I also get a chance to see how much I have progressed through sparring sessions and grappling/jiu jitsu matches, so that's always cool too
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Currently in love with weight training.


what are you lifting?
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I used to, but haven't in about a year. I'd like to get back into it, but it's not a high priority. I was pretty weak. My bests were about like so:

Bench 70 kg
Squat 86 kg
Deadlift 102 kg
Standing Strict Press 50 kg

I was just starting to learn olympic lifts when I had to quit because of time restraints. Too bad, I was having a lot of fun with them.
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I do all the exercises you mentioned regularly, in addition to swimming every other day. I rotate workouts on a weekly basis but I always have squats and deadlifts in there, just because my back would ache if I don't.

Bench 80-100 kg
Squat 110-140 kg
Deadlift 120 kg (ish)

I like to have a lean body more than bulky, though, so I swim to have more strength/stamina rather than size.
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I lift myself.
I lift my coffee.
I lift pens, and other utensils.
I'm a lifter.
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I could lift 125 lbs or about 58 kgs on average.
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Potentsaliva wrote:
Yeah, I'm not too sure lifting things in a mechanistic fashion qualifies as practical and/or functional, Since a good amount of the weight bearing exercises most people tend to do only focus in on isolated muscles in a limited range, thus more emphasis is needed to take in account for all the other muscles and tendons that aren't accounted for.

Practical in the sense of : Is this useful in a wide range of actives besides working out? Does the weight I'm lifting on a constant basis actually useful or is it just compressing and adding more muscular and skeletal tension? Am I actually learning a useful skill I carry into my life? After the workout do I feel stiff or actually physically relaxed? Yeah I think really weird shit like that. I also think more on a long term basis as in keeping my joints healthy,strong, and flexible as with muscles as I age and hopefully not becoming decrepit and immobile as I age. I mean I'm not entirely talking down lifting cause it certainly has it's uses, but only to a degree.

As for the exercises stuff like any martial arts, Yoga, barefoot running, gardening, yard work, I think you get the idea. I think those are more effective towards goals beyond just physical strength. I think I actually have more of a problem with how people go about it than the actual practice.


Hmm. Well, lifting stuff is pretty useful. A deadlift is just lifting something off the ground. We certainly do that stuff when moving furniture, carrying kids around, rescuing people. Ideally, we want enough strength to carry a person in case someone has been incapacitated in a burning building or whatever emergency situation. I've stepped very close to a timber rattlesnake on a nature trail before. If someone's bitten by that, it would probably be pretty useful to have enough strength to move them to a clear, open area to make it easier for the rescue helicopter to find and access quickly.

Not sure about martial arts. I mean, I enjoy them, but they separate contests into weight categories, so I guess the bigger guy just wins. Probably better to carry a weapon for self-defense, anyway, if possible.

But, I guess the most important thing is doing what we enjoy most. Lifting can be a lot more boring than other things.
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I'm on and off. At this point, I'm not big on regular weightlifting anymore. I've never been overly concerned with "getting big"; I'd much rather develop explosive strength without getting too bulky. Martial arts and sports and all.

At my peak...I was doing about 200lbs x 10 for bench press, 315lbs x 10 for squats, and over 800lbs x 10 on the leg press. Surprisingly, my deadlift sucked. Or maybe not surprisingly, seeing as I did taekwondo for years and developed my quads a lot more than my hams and glutes.
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I've been on and off for this entire year, mostly off. Used to be pretty into weightlifting when I was in high school, and it was a lot more convenient since we had a weight training class. Now that I'm out of high school, and I don't like the 2 gyms available to me in town, I've pretty much gone inactive.

But anyways, when I did weight training, my favorite lift was the deadlift. My weight training coach didn't let us do it often, but since he liked me, I kinda got to do what I want to an extent, so I practiced when I could. I only weighed around 135lb, and the one time I got to see what I could do, I hit 315 once.

I also liked to do cleans. I hit a 195lb clean @ 130ish my junior year and was very proud of that. That was before I started training my deadlift too. I sometimes practiced my overhead squat but never went heavy, just worked on form. Was able to do like 95lb for a bunch of reps but that's as far as I would take it.

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Potentsaliva wrote:
Yeah, I'm not too sure lifting things in a mechanistic fashion qualifies as practical and/or functional, Since a good amount of the weight bearing exercises most people tend to do only focus in on isolated muscles in a limited range, thus more emphasis is needed to take in account for all the other muscles and tendons that aren't accounted for.

Practical in the sense of : Is this useful in a wide range of actives besides working out? Does the weight I'm lifting on a constant basis actually useful or is it just compressing and adding more muscular and skeletal tension? Am I actually learning a useful skill I carry into my life? After the workout do I feel stiff or actually physically relaxed? Yeah I think really weird shit like that. I also think more on a long term basis as in keeping my joints healthy,strong, and flexible as with muscles as I age and hopefully not becoming decrepit and immobile as I age. I mean I'm not entirely talking down lifting cause it certainly has it's uses, but only to a degree.

As for the exercises stuff like any martial arts, Yoga, barefoot running, gardening, yard work, I think you get the idea. I think those are more effective towards goals beyond just physical strength. I think I actually have more of a problem with how people go about it than the actual practice.


Hmm. Well, lifting stuff is pretty useful. A deadlift is just lifting something off the ground. We certainly do that stuff when moving furniture, carrying kids around, rescuing people. Ideally, we want enough strength to carry a person in case someone has been incapacitated in a burning building or whatever emergency situation. I've stepped very close to a timber rattlesnake on a nature trail before. If someone's bitten by that, it would probably be pretty useful to have enough strength to move them to a clear, open area to make it easier for the rescue helicopter to find and access quickly.

Not sure about martial arts. I mean, I enjoy them, but they separate contests into weight categories, so I guess the bigger guy just wins. Probably better to carry a weapon for self-defense, anyway, if possible.

But, I guess the most important thing is doing what we enjoy most. Lifting can be a lot more boring than other things.


Yeah, I see what you mean it does have it's uses in terms of cultivating physical strength, and physical strength can be useful I can't deny that. It's just that I think personally it's not rewarding and my time is better spent not lifting weights but doing something that is cultivating a very useful skill of some sort and can keep cultivating that skill into old age all while keeping me mobile, flexible, relaxed, healthy and promotes my overall quality of life.

Yeah I'm not a fan of martial arts where it's been perverted to such a degree that it's been isolated from the system that it originally was supposed to be apart of, since I just find anything beyond self-defense and preservation in the realm of martial arts to be of no interest to me. ( note: In this context I'm speaking of martial arts from Asia that came out of Taoism and Chan Buddhism )

I think that all just reiterates the idea that I have more of a problem with how people go about it than the actually practice it's self since I have such stringent requirements for some things, exercise being one of them.
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