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Posted 9/30/16 , edited 9/30/16

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Except that's not what I said amirite? You said that racism exists equally on all sides. That is demonstrably false if only from American history alone.

Top kek.


Do you sincerely believe you magically and effortlessly solved racism at some point so everyone should be working from a net zero blank slate? Instead of, you know, generations of systematic racism?

Of course not. The after-effects of racism, of course, still exist. But an after-effect =/= institutionalized racism.

A white cop shooting a black guy does not automatically mean racism. Some random jackass in the forums saying "Fuck these niggers they ruin 'Merica" does not make everyone in America racist. isolated incidents of racism do not mean that America as a whole is deeply stuck in a cesspool of racism. And you have touted all three as examples of why America is so damn racist in the past.

At least we don't hang signs that say "Nihonjin senyou" in front of family owned businesses and hotels, or tell people they can't eat in this restaurant because they're not part of "the neighborhood". Some people do, but they're so rare here that it's a non-issue. What becomes the real problem is when people like you and every RJW come and blow it way out of proportion. Waaaay up out of proportion.

Saying America is racist because we harbor a few hate groups says absolutely nothing. Saying America is racist because we treated blacks as second class citizens a half-century ago says absolutely nothing. By thay logic, Germany is racist because they also harbor neo-Nazi hate groups. GB is racist because they have groups of people that occasionally rally to tell American tourists to basically fuck off and go home. Small hateful groups are not only exclusive to America, and they do not represent Americans nor do hate groups in other nations represent where they're from as a whole.

If you want to call something racist, call individuals racist. And realize that racism is also a term that belongs on a scale. Lots of people have preconceived notions towards other people, and these all come from different experiences, methods of being raised, stories that they've heard of, etc.

Racism, as of prejudice, is not an issue of America. If you want to make it an issue, make it an issue of humanity as a whole. Don't just pick "the easy one out" because it had the issue more seriously for a lot longer than other nations and proceed to call it a day. And, also, if you're going to get mad at preconceived notions based on race, then you also need to get mad at the people who prejudge others for things like being tall, being short, having long hair as a guy, having short hair as a woman, wearing hoodies, wearing all black, wearing pink as a guy, the list goes on and fucking on.

My opinion is that racism isn't a problem until it directly starts influencing behavior toward one another. And what really fucks me up is when someone uses my stance, or one similar to it, to race-bait and call out isolated incidents of police brutality and frame it as some bullshit racist crusade against black people in America. You're not solving the problem, you're helping it to go unnoticed for a lot longer than it needs to be.

And, finally, the thing I hate the most about the retarded black lives matter movement is the blatant irony in their declaration that "They're not saying that all lives don't matter, it's just that black lives matter, too." You know what that means in the context of them ignoring that other races have to face the same problem that they do? That's them saying they couldn't give less of a fuck if the amount of non-blacks killed by police brutality stay the same, they just want the black deaths to be reduced towards the percentage of people that are black in America.

Guess what. That's racist.

I don't follow either ideology, but I'll say this now.

All lives matter.


Yes, "people". All both of you. >.>

Are you blind? I read at least two people calling you such in the past week alone. I'm just the only person not disguising it in some retarded PC fashion such as "disingenuous" or "you're ignoring such and such for such and such".
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But if the "fire" is police killings, both houses are clearly on fire.

We've talked about this so I'm not going to get into it again, but...really?


"If".

Yes, we talked about that but essentially achieved an agree to disagree before the thread collapsed in on itself.


If the fire isn't police killings, what is it? Isn't that the core of BLM? The killing of black people by police?

And we did agree to disagree in some respects, but not to the degree that you can honestly say that there is no problem with police killing white people. Yeah, the exact ratios and what rates we should use we may disagree on, but you'd have to be blind to act like there isn't a fire in both houses.
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Oh boy , another race thread. Here we go again.
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Posted 9/30/16 , edited 9/30/16

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Mastersluthier wrote:
Racism exists Equally on ALL sides of the race fence...


It really doesn't. Thats kind of central to the entire problem here.

As for people that still somehow can't grasp the whole ALM vs BLM thing lets drudge up the comic again:


The comic is missing the part where the original housefire was started by the owner
Edit: hilariously enough when a fire is out of control firefighters will soak surrounding buildings to help keep it from spreading so that comic is double stupid.

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Posted 9/30/16 , edited 10/2/16

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Wait..So because one nut-job does something without the consent or knowledge of the organization/people he claims to be representing that makes the organization itself a terrorist org? So by your logic, Christians are all terrorists because occasionally some whacko shoots up a planned parenthood (see Denver) or blows up an abortion clinic. Also, all Muslims are terrorists, and I guess the list goes on. Great logic, really sound and well thought out.

'Without consent or knowledge'

IMages like this were being shared by thousands of black lives matter supporters just days before the Dallas terror attack.
"Kill whitey, pigs in a blanket, what do we want: dead cops"
And then we have BLM terrorists knocking out a white reporter in Charlotte recently and trying to drag his unconsious body into a fire.
Here's one for you. Would you consider Dylann Roof and the KKK terrorists?
Edit: In the bigger version of the piece of 'art' in the screen cap you can see the beheader wearing an Egyptian ankh necklace. WE WUZ KANGZ AN GYPTIANS FAM
There is also footage taken from live broadcasts from Milwaukee and Charlotte more recently of rioters calling for going to white suburbs and burning them down.
In other words this country is going to become Zimbabwe 2.0 if we let it

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Posted 9/30/16 , edited 9/30/16
Can't help but be a generalization in that case. "Oh look, these people are dangerous!" Well have you met most members of Black Live Matters supporters? Thousands is a drop in a bucket to the literal millions that throw their lives to this movement. Why not use examples of the riots that are happening Charleston amidst really bad speculation on last weeks shootings? Not some damn internet fad.


Another thing I want to raise....how many of these people experience consistent, actual harassment from police? Instead of placing yourselves into a state of permanent victimhood paranoia? Most of the people here, rioting, even the police men themselves, haven't even been alive during the Civil Rights Era.

I could go into a race theory that suggests that police officers who consistently arrest criminals who are black are more likely to notice blacks overall (After all, isn't it the human brain to find patterns?), but I'll digress. Short story, it isn't out of misplaced hatred but rather more blacks commit a disproportionate share of the criminal activity relative to other races, and thus it so happens more are shot and a greater scrutiny is placed on them by police officers, which manifest in several unfortunate behavior. While I don't think it is quite just in that sense, it would be very hard to curb such instinctual behavior among officers to not see race. While not invest in programs, from healthcare to schooling, to alleviate said problems within the African American community, so that crime rate as a whole would drop?

I think body cams are a great addition, if there is anything to be positive said about the movement as a whole. I think police brutality as a whole needs to end, but with reasonable restraints on the officers to prevent misuse of authoritah.


I think we're asking too much to repress such instinctual and oft times subtle behavior, many of whom we ourselves are not aware of.



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Posted 9/30/16 , edited 9/30/16

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Can't help but be a generalization in that case. "Oh look, these people are dangerous!" Well have you met most members of Black Live Matters supporters? Thousands is a drop in a bucket to the literal millions that throw their lives to this movement. Why not use examples of the riots that are happening Charleston amidst really bad speculation on last weeks shootings? Not some damn internet fad.


Another thing I want to raise....how many of these people experience consistent, actual harassment from police? Instead of placing yourselves into a state of permanent victimhood paranoia? Most of the people here, rioting, even the police men themselves, haven't even been alive during the Civil Rights Era.

I could go into a race theory that suggests that police officers who consistently arrest criminals who are black are more likely to notice blacks overall (After all, isn't it the human brain to find patterns?), but I'll digress. Short story, it isn't out of misplaced hatred but rather more blacks commit a disproportionate share of the criminal activity relative to other races, and thus it so happens more are shot and a greater scrutiny is placed on them by police officers, which manifest in several unfortunate behavior. While I don't think it is quite just in that sense, it would be very hard to curb such instinctual behavior among officers to not see race. While not invest in programs, from healthcare to schooling, to alleviate said problems within the African American community, so that crime rate as a whole would drop?

I think body cams are a great addition, if there is anything to be positive said about the movement as a whole. I think police brutality as a whole needs to end, but with reasonable restraints on the officers to prevent misuse of authoritah.





The black crime rate isn't the problem in this case. It's a fact that more whites are killed by police, even unlawfully, than blacks. What the actual problem is this false narrative driven by the (((mainstream media))) and corrupt politicians like Obama. Even at the memorial in Dallas for the officers slain by a terrorist he pretty much said 'Cops need to stop being racist!'.


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sundin13 wrote:


runec wrote:


sundin13 wrote:
But if the "fire" is police killings, both houses are clearly on fire.

We've talked about this so I'm not going to get into it again, but...really?


"If".

Yes, we talked about that but essentially achieved an agree to disagree before the thread collapsed in on itself.


If the fire isn't police killings, what is it? Isn't that the core of BLM? The killing of black people by police?


The fire could be police killings motivated by racial discrimination.
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'Without consent or knowledge'

IMages like this were being shared by thousands of black lives matter supporters just days before the Dallas terror attack.
"Kill whitey, pigs in a blanket, what do we want: dead cops"
And then we have BLM terrorists knocking out a white reporter in Charlotte recently and trying to drag his unconsious body into a fire.
Here's one for you. Would you consider Dylann Roof and the KKK terrorists?
Edit: In the bigger version of the piece of 'art' in the screen cap you can see the beheader wearing an Egyptian ankh necklace. WE WUZ KANGZ AN GYPTIANS FAM
There is also footage taken from live broadcasts from Milwaukee and Charlotte more recently of rioters calling for going to white suburbs and burning them down.
In other words this country is going to become Zimbabwe 2.0 if we let it



The image you linked, and the Charlotte incident with the photographer (not a reporter, makes me wonder if you even researched it instead of reading talking points on some right wing blog) in no way prove that the BLM leaders or anyone knew what that man planned to do. The two aren't linked, there is no correlation between them. Your attempt there is dodgy at best. Were some BLM supports probably not mad about what happened? Some probably weren't, but that doesn't mean the BLM movement as a whole in anyway assisted, knew about, or condoned his actions.

It's about as relevant as your Dylann Roof/KKK argument. Everyday on facebook I see racist posts from people where I grew up that throw around the "N" word and comments like your "Zimbabwe 2.0." Which, if I may say, I think it's great that you dont even try to hide your ignorant racism. In leading back to Dylann Roof, it doesn't mean that if he or anyone of you were members of the KKK and decided to commit an act like he did that the KKK would necessarily be considered a terrorist group because of that. UNLESS you could prove that the KKK was in someway complicit and had knowledge of his plans or actively assisted him. So to sum up, I don't believe Dylann Roof is a terrorist, nor the KKK a terrorist organization. They are what is known as a mass murdering psychopath and a hate group.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Can't help but be a generalization in that case. "Oh look, these people are dangerous!" Well have you met most members of Black Live Matters supporters? Thousands is a drop in a bucket to the literal millions that throw their lives to this movement. Why not use examples of the riots that are happening Charleston amidst really bad speculation on last weeks shootings? Not some damn internet fad.


Another thing I want to raise....how many of these people experience consistent, actual harassment from police? Instead of placing yourselves into a state of permanent victimhood paranoia? Most of the people here, rioting, even the police men themselves, haven't even been alive during the Civil Rights Era.

I could go into a race theory that suggests that police officers who consistently arrest criminals who are black are more likely to notice blacks overall (After all, isn't it the human brain to find patterns?), but I'll digress. Short story, it isn't out of misplaced hatred but rather more blacks commit a disproportionate share of the criminal activity relative to other races, and thus it so happens more are shot and a greater scrutiny is placed on them by police officers, which manifest in several unfortunate behavior. While I don't think it is quite just in that sense, it would be very hard to curb such instinctual behavior among officers to not see race. While not invest in programs, from healthcare to schooling, to alleviate said problems within the African American community, so that crime rate as a whole would drop?

I think body cams are a great addition, if there is anything to be positive said about the movement as a whole. I think police brutality as a whole needs to end, but with reasonable restraints on the officers to prevent misuse of authoritah.





The black crime rate isn't the problem in this case. It's a fact that more whites are killed by police, even unlawfully, than blacks. What the actual problem is this false narrative driven by the (((mainstream media))) and corrupt politicians like Obama. Even at the memorial in Dallas for the officers slain by a terrorist he pretty much said 'Cops need to stop being racist!'.




Percentages and rates are an actual thing.
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The image you linked, and the Charlotte incident with the photographer (not a reporter, makes me wonder if you even researched it instead of reading talking points on some right wing blog) in no way prove that the BLM leaders or anyone knew what that man planned to do. The two aren't linked, there is no correlation between them. Your attempt there is dodgy at best. Were some BLM supports probably not mad about what happened? Some probably weren't, but that doesn't mean the BLM movement as a whole in anyway assisted, knew about, or condoned his actions.


Oh how naive you are




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Everyday on facebook I see racist posts from people where I grew up that throw around the "N" word and comments like your "Zimbabwe 2.0." .
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OH BOO HOO THE BIG BAD MEANIES SAYING N***ER ON THE INTERNET!
THEY'RE WORSE THAN THE PEACEFUL PROTESTORS CHASING DOWN WHITES AND BEATING THEM AND SHOOTING AT COPS!
Black violence and terror is going to bring this country to the brink and no one will like where it leads, I promise.

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Posted 10/1/16 , edited 10/1/16

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Percentages and rates are an actual thing.


Black males are 6% of the population yet commit over half of all violent crime.

Picture related, part of the (((media deception))) that's being pushed
Don't use facts, just feelings.

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Oh the internet is such a great source, and not a hivemind of extremists on either side.


I'm not arguing against your conclusion as much as the evidence presented.

Isn't it ironic that you yourself apparently stated that internet words are meaningless AKA


OH BOO HOO THE BIG BAD MEANIES SAYING N***ER ON THE INTERNET!
THEY'RE WORSE THAN THE PEACEFUL PROTESTORS CHASING DOWN WHITES AND BEATING THEM AND SHOOTING AT COPS!


Rather than going for the jugular and looking at the violence erupting, and the specious assumption of race killing without any examination of the circumstances it occurs?

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Posted 10/1/16 , edited 10/1/16

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Oh the internet is such a great source, and not a hivemind of extremists on either side.


I'm not arguing against your conclusion as much as the evidence presented.

Isn't it ironic that you yourself apparently stated that internet words are meaningless AKA




One group is not equal to the other


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